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I don’t think that was a Herve problem, he was known for nurturing young riders during the Yamaha years; not to mention setting the unwritten standards for team conduct as the head of IRTA.

I think it was more of a KTM thing and Herve was basically forced to follow the script.
Sure, the strong likelihood is that it was a KTM thing. Herve reputedly wanted to keep at least one of the rookies. He had not much option, but I wonder how much he is enjoying running a quasi factory KTM team under Pit Bierer’s direction, although he would doubtless have enjoyed early season Acosta this year .
 
When Raul and Remy were drafted into Tech3 they were just left with no body, to help them adapt to the Moto bike. Their boss Herve Poncharal just told them to “stop winging and get out and ride it” so it was no wonder that they did no good with it.

Sure Remy told them what he thought of it, as any Ozzie would, and ‘They decided he would not be a suitable team member’ so they black band him, but it was not just Remy, Raul got the same treatment. They came out of there 12 months later just the same as they went in, a year wasted for both. Raul after 12 months learning is now getting to do it.

Remy rides for Yamaha in WSBK and doing well often the leading Yamaha. He did two rides for Cal Crutchlow testing for the GP team, he was asked to do it again for the next months testing, but refused saying that the testing and the racing were two full time jobs, so it was either one or the other, and he preferred to fight for the Podium in WSBK.

I don't quite follow the left with nobody part. They did have crew chiefs, and they did have guys in the team doing the data. What was missing, do you reckon?

Herve's comment should give food for thought to the young'uns coming up. He has seen much, and he has been dealing with rookies a few times. Working more than talking, in your first year is on the face of it a decent advice.

You don't have to be from the land of Oz to be a straight talker. Miller doesn't mince his words. He is diplomatic when talking to the press, though. You don't bite the hands that feeds, in public. That is just daft.
Raul didn't get the same treatment, even if he lasted as long in the team. Raul didn't want to join, and left as soon as he could. A completely different story, even of the outcome is the same. Also, still being in MotoGP, that first year wasn't a waste for Fernandez. He merely had a long rookie season.

Remy is a good rider, and does well in WSBK, in his second season. He is on course for a Yamaha factory bike, once Rea and the team decide to call it quits. Should be soon, after next season probably.

I'd like to give an alternative spin to the negative KTM comments.

Easy to sometimes forget just how recently they've joined the MotoGP paddock, and just how big name in racing they are. So impatience is somewhat expected of them. Red Bull flowing from the taps in Austria and all.

After they established the team, it was a Pol project. In '19 they brought another good rider along, in Zarco. That failed because of the Zarco - manager relationship as much as anything else. Then came Binder in '20, and he has remained ever since.

When Pol left to destroy his career at HRC, they went for another good rider in Oliveira, who happend to ride in their satellite team. They kept him at the team for two years, and only didn't renew when KTM affiliated Ajo brought Miller back into the team. Binder still remained. Almost a family story that team. Much more than any other in the MotoGP Paddock.

The Tech3 team is a testing ground for the KTMs, and apart from Lecuona's dismissal, most of the movement have been coming from afar. Even Lecuona's story is digestable, considering the rider replacing his was a Moto2 world champion/second place.
 
Miller doesn't mince his words. He is diplomatic when talking to the press, though
He did dunk on Simon Patterson once and it was glorious, for the latter is a class A sh!tstirrer.

As for Lecuona/ Petrucci, it was the right business decision, but the fact that they learned about their dismissals on a race weekend, on air during an interview is just terrible talent management, which is a recurring theme at KTM.
 
If thats the case I am sure they are looking for someone to clean toilets.
The Aussie term is dunny

Gardner shouldn't have publicly criticised the bike he was on. Doesn't go that well when you have no results in the class to back up your criticism. Tough lesson but there it is.
While agreeing with you was that criticism after KTM had ditched him ?
 

I do feel bad for Mir...from his comments, the Honda sounds absolutely terrifying to ride.

"On braking in straights, I was locking the bike, I was locking the front a lot. That was limiting me from braking later.

"But then just before opening the throttle, my bike was spinning and then you open the throttle and just 'float' - you have a constant floating feeling like you cannot control [the bike].


Like what the ....? That thing sounds unrideable in line with the '89 NSR500. He also had a pretty big crash during testing yesterday.

Kind of makes you wonder about how MM was dragging that thing into the top ten last season.
 
Gardner shouldn't have publicly criticised the bike he was on. Doesn't go that well when you have no results in the class to back up your criticism. Tough lesson but there it is.
I completely agree, but my point is so did Raul. Of course this is simplified but:

2 riders on the same team.
Finished 1st and 2nd in the previous Moto2 world championship
Both don't want to be there
Both criticize the bike
Both criticize the team
1 get's a lifeline with RNF, then Aprilia itself. The other is banished from MotoGP altogether.

Now, given they were relatively equal in both performance and moaning, I would have expected 1. A Moto2 world champ and 2. An Aussie to stay in GP over a Spaniard, purely from a passport perspective.
Jack Miller never won a GP title, yet has had 10 yrs and 2 factory teams.

I'm not a simp for Garnder, and I agree he far from helped his cause. However, I feel in a more just world, it should have been he, and not Fernandez, so got a stay of execution.

I will reluctantly have to praise Valentino again, the graduates from the VR46 academy have gone and are going to rides on better bikes than a KTM. KTM are burning through all manner of talent they get from the Red Bull programme, often ditching them after 1 year in the premier class riding what Remy was probably correct in calling a crap bike. The best talent to join the premier class in years is currently struggling on the .2024 iteration of the thing. It was widely reported that Raul Fernandez wanted to stay in moto 2 for another year, but if contracted to KTM it would appear a rider goes to where he is told to go.
I don't care for Rossi, but what he has done for Italian riders with his VR46 Academy is nothing short of sensational.
 

I do feel bad for Mir...from his comments, the Honda sounds absolutely terrifying to ride.

"On braking in straights, I was locking the bike, I was locking the front a lot. That was limiting me from braking later.

"But then just before opening the throttle, my bike was spinning and then you open the throttle and just 'float' - you have a constant floating feeling like you cannot control [the bike].


Like what the ....? That thing sounds unrideable in line with the '89 NSR500. He also had a pretty big crash during testing yesterday.

Kind of makes you wonder about how MM was dragging that thing into the top ten last season.
Indeed. The worst thing with any racing machine is the lack of feedback and feel from it. It's bad enough at the level I race, I can only imagine how scary that current RC213V is.
 

I do feel bad for Mir...from his comments, the Honda sounds absolutely terrifying to ride.

"On braking in straights, I was locking the bike, I was locking the front a lot. That was limiting me from braking later.

"But then just before opening the throttle, my bike was spinning and then you open the throttle and just 'float' - you have a constant floating feeling like you cannot control [the bike].


Like what the ....? That thing sounds unrideable in line with the '89 NSR500. He also had a pretty big crash during testing yesterday.

Kind of makes you wonder about how MM was dragging that thing into the top ten last season.
Yes, it is an absolute sh!tshow, but from what I read, they have a whole new machine coming in a few weeks. New engine, aero, frame, the whole works. Here’s hoping it’s a bit less of a widowmaker than the current edition.
 
I completely agree, but my point is so did Raul. Of course this is simplified but:

2 riders on the same team.
Finished 1st and 2nd in the previous Moto2 world championship
Both don't want to be there
Both criticize the bike
Both criticize the team
1 get's a lifeline with RNF, then Aprilia itself. The other is banished from MotoGP altogether.

Now, given they were relatively equal in both performance and moaning, I would have expected 1. A Moto2 world champ and 2. An Aussie to stay in GP over a Spaniard, purely from a passport perspective.
Jack Miller never won a GP title, yet has had 10 yrs and 2 factory teams.

I'm not a simp for Garnder, and I agree he far from helped his cause. However, I feel in a more just world, it should have been he, and not Fernandez, so got a stay of execution.


I don't care for Rossi, but what he has done for Italian riders with his VR46 Academy is nothing short of sensational.

Fair enough if that is the case. I didn't read Raul complaining about the bike like Remy. Perhaps I paid more attention to Remy as I am Australian.
 
Fair enough if that is the case. I didn't read Raul complaining about the bike like Remy. Perhaps I paid more attention to Remy as I am Australian.
Raul has always been that way.
He had a meltdown at the Ajo garage and he accused that team of sabotaging his bike to help Remy win the championship.

If memory serves me right, the Ajo team banned his father from the garage as he was found to be the one pouring poison in his son’s ears.

Of course, he’s a regular fixture now at the Trackhouse garage.

Between the two, I’d pick Remy any day. It’s not even close.
 
Yes, it is an absolute sh!tshow, but from what I read, they have a whole new machine coming in a few weeks. New engine, aero, frame, the whole works. Here’s hoping it’s a bit less of a widowmaker than the current edition.

Yes that was what I had read as well. It will be interesting to see if it actually becomes more rideable or not. There was a time I thought Honda could engineer their way out of this, but who really knows any longer. Aero is an entirely different ballgame from their comfort zone. I wonder what their budget it is for the MotoGP project if they are willing to go that far with basically redesigning the entire bike.
 
There was a time I thought Honda could engineer their way out of this, but who really knows any longer.
If the spirit of Soichiro lives on, they will.

It’s a crying shame, really. If one has had the privilege to see these machines up close as I have, the finishing on the Japanese machines is on another level. Every part, even ones like the footrests are lovingly crafted and finished. The euro bikes, especially the Aprilia, look like proper backyard specials in comparison. They are built to function, nothing more. And that’s awful because you can tell that the teams that put together the Japanese machines pour their hearts and souls into it. With very little to show for it.
 
Raul has always been that way.
He had a meltdown at the Ajo garage and he accused that team of sabotaging his bike to help Remy win the championship.

If memory serves me right, the Ajo team banned his father from the garage as he was found to be the one pouring poison in his son’s ears.

Of course, he’s a regular fixture now at the Trackhouse garage.

Between the two, I’d pick Remy any day. It’s not even close.
Sorry then Havey, you were correct.
 
Raul has always been that way.
He had a meltdown at the Ajo garage and he accused that team of sabotaging his bike to help Remy win the championship.

If memory serves me right, the Ajo team banned his father from the garage as he was found to be the one pouring poison in his son’s ears.

Of course, he’s a regular fixture now at the Trackhouse garage.

Between the two, I’d pick Remy any day. It’s not even close.
I believe I read somewhere that Aki Ajo is Remy’s manager now, so he perhaps rated him more highly than KTM did.

Speaking of sons of Australian premier class title winners, as I am sure everyone has read Jack Doohan has got an F1 drive next season. I fear signing with Alpine is not much less of a poison chalice than a KTM premier class ride has been however.
 
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Sorry then Havey, you were correct.
No problem mate I can wrong, as I am 86 now and been following GP racing from the late 50s, when Ozzies put the bikes on the boat to Europe to race in, as many Gps as they could, but the memory has developed a bottomless hole that drains it off, and as I only quote from memory I may be off the facts.
Harvey.
 
No problem mate I can wrong, as I am 86 now and been following GP racing from the late 50s, when Ozzies put the bikes on the boat to Europe to race in, as many Gps as they could, but the memory has developed a bottomless hole that drains it off, and as I only quote from memory I may be off the facts.
Harvey.
Wow you have been following a while! 😎
Got a few years on me. I'm 55 and only been following since the 80s.
Yeah the memory doesn't improve with age. Noticing that too. I have never been good at people's names. I am terrible now 😳
 

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