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2024 Catalunya GP
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The tire is holding back the bikes, but I'm confident this is by design. The GP Commission was already having a panic attack in 2007, when Bridgestone released their new 800cc spec front tire, and Stoner was able to take it to the limit. In 2008, the final year for the tire war, it appeared that Bridgestone had adapted F1 contact patch technology to their MotoGP tires, specifically the front tire. Michelin did not want to follow suit, and they withdrew for 2009.
The bikes could pull more lateral g's than the runoff areas can contain, and the current tire technology makes it nearly impossible to regulate a tire war, unless the manufacturers come up with an elaborate synthesis for equalizing tires. The tire manufacturers are keen to equalize for FIM Endurance, but they seem uninterested in equalizing sprint racing tires for MotoGP and SBK.
MotoGP finally has the same problem that F1 has. The manufacturers could easily build motorcycles that outrun all global racing circuits, and that could kill or maim the rider with their sheer performance. I think the closest MotoGP could get to a tire war is allowing manufacturers to homologate various designs, and then let the teams pick and choose what they want each weekend, rather than having exclusive supply. The manufacturers would necessarily optimize for various conditions and or circuits. Fans would get a bit more variety.
I agree. It isn’t Nascar, and contrived close racing doesn’t match the real thing anyway. Everyone surely already knows aero killed F1 as well, but they still press on with it.
The safety aspect is the real issue though, and Dorna seem incapable of appreciating lthat bikes aren’t cars. That was as massive a highside as you will ever see, so the initial justification for the electronic rider aids failed Bagnaia as you say,, perhaps a consequence of the current direction with the bikes, which are also prone to letting go on the limit without warning as Bagnaia said about another incident earlier this year.
Pretty good theory about the first incident, Binder said he saw what happened to Bagnaia and was able to react to a degree, and didn’t hit him full on
I spent like 20 minutes thinking about this post until I finally figured out pissed means drunk.
Interesting interview with Jack here where he says he wasn’t happy with his bike in warmup so he told them to do something radical but it appears they didn’t tell him exactly what they’d done to it?
www.crash.net
if we‘re to believe that the Fri and Sat are used to slowly set the bike up for the riders preferences is it feasible to get to Sunday morning warmup and your rider declares he’s not happy and requests you do something “radical” to the bike that you just twirl the spanner’s and twiddle the knobs and set him loose? This by a rider rumoured to in line for a development role within the team.
Jack Miller: ‘Stuff everywhere, I jumped the back of Brad’s bike’
Jack Miller came close to being the eighth rider on the ground in the opening lap mayhem at the Catalunya MotoGP.
www.crash.net
Friday and Saturday are not now all about setting up the bike for the race as they have lost sessions due to the Sprint but in Jack's case the below is from his facebook feed that pushed out and may go some way to the issue as he was lacking grip through the practice and simply had the team change sh*t to try to find something that may have worked.
We made some massive chances today which took me a few laps to get my head around, honestly though I have to apologise to the boys on our side of the shed, they’ve been working tirelessly to help us and save tires this weekend and I can’t thank them enough as we really did turn the bike upside down to get me comfortable in the low grip conditions. Nonetheless 13th to 8th today, I had a lot of fun in the race as wild as the start was
Misano is the opposite of here, a lot of grip so we’ll see what we can do there!
We made some massive chances today which took me a few laps to get my head around, honestly though I have to apologise to the boys on our side of the shed, they’ve been working tirelessly to help us and save tires this weekend and I can’t thank them enough as we really did turn the bike upside down to get me comfortable in the low grip conditions. Nonetheless 13th to 8th today, I had a lot of fun in the race as wild as the start was
MotoGP has progressed from 180hp, 130kg 2-strokes to 250hp, 157kg 4-strokes. Is the sport and the entertainment value really 25% better?
It's easy to ignore how perilous the sport has become for the riders. The laws of physics remind us of the danger occasionally, but it seems the sport is always lulled back to sleep. Riders are killed or they hit walls or they get sucked off the track at LeMans or whatever, but everything settles down and we forget.
And it seems the GPC are singularly focused on reducing the power output, which might reduce top speed by 15-20 clicks, but it won't do much for trap speeds, since the bikes have more power than they can use already. How does lower terminal velocity help Bagania at Catalunya? Or Pol at Portimao? Or Rins at LeMans?
Something is off. The GPC is caught in a vortex of non sequiturs.
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The first corner crash in this GP will become more common as the bikes are getting off the start line more evenly meaning that the spacing at the first corner is similar to the spacing on the grid. We might need to spread them further on the grid, perhaps 2 riders per row
If it remains so difficult to pass we'll continue to see bold moves into turn one. Right now it makes a huge difference whether you're 5th or 10th coming out of lap one.
I enjoy the racing but I have this nagging feeling in the back of my brain that it is getting more and more dangerous for the riders, have we passed the point of it being too much ?
Honestly, I could not help thinking that if something terrible had happened to Pecco ..... !!!
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We probably need a separate thread for this.
Everything has risk and as has been said, at what point do we consider risk unacceptable?
Everything has risk and as has been said, at what point do we consider risk unacceptable?
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