I was saying that Capirossi should not be considered "alien" level. Is that what you mean by "should not be considered far behind as alien status" meant?? He did well on the 990 Ducati compared to the other riders.
Yes, i understand what you are saying, and I'm saying your reasoning is flawed. You responded to another poster who compared Capirossi's number and Pedrosa's number to show they were similar, but then you said they were "cherry picking" numbers to make the point Capirossi should not be considered an "alien" like Pedrosa. I'm saying your reasoning is flawed. I'm disagreeing with you.
As far as Pedrosa having a great bike and good tires right of the bat....one could argue that about Rossi as well. He got Doohan's team, and very good NSR, and Michelin was making the best tires for Honda IMO. Of course, Rossi improved each season and was winning titles....were as Pedrosa has stuggled with development on the 800cc bike and has been kinda stagnant with results every year.
Lorenzo also benefitted from a great bike, team, and data......and has improved each year including this one.
What is you're point here, it sounds like you are making my point. I just finished saying above that comparing Pedro and Capi is flawed because Pedro had heaven and earth moved for him, unlike Capi. What you just said above is supporting my point, the guys who inherit a great situation are going to immediately look great.
Capirossi has not done squat with the Suzuki...how is he underrated and underestimated in that respect?? No podiums going on 3 seasons.....
Well, first of all, you should get your facts straight. Capi does have a podium on a Suzuki, look up the result of Rizla Suzuki at the Czech Republic Grand Prix in 2008. And unless my math is wrong, if you are going back "
3 seasons" (that would be 2007), then you must have missed the steps on the podium on which Loris stood. It wouldn't have been that hard to miss since it was on each and every step on a podium; that's right, a 3rd, a 2nd (twice), and a 1st!
so either Suzuki tells him to piss off at development ideas or he just cant do it.
I'm not sure why you seem a bit hell bent on telling us Capirossi sucks or is "an old guy riding around crashing" but so far I haven't been convinced. Trying to blame Capirossi for Suzuki's woes is at very best mistaken and at very least ignorant. Suzuki have sucked for many years. They have two titles to show for it in almost 30 years, so trying to blame Loris for the last two is laughable.
He says he loves being at Suzuki because they listen to him and he did not like Ducati because they would not listen to him......leads me to think he can't develop a bike to improve the results.
If you're going to question Capirossi's development skills, lets talk Ducati--where he was actually tasked to "developed" a machine (which he did very well actually) unlike Suzuki, where he is retained to show the ropes to the young rookie (big difference).
Maybe a good thing Ducati did not listen to him..
Newsflash, guess who developed the 2007 championship bike? Uhm...yeah, a guy named Loris Capirossi (fact). ...... developer NOT.
It would be interesting to have the top riders in MotoGP switch with the worst bikes/riders and race a season to see how bad the bikes really are or how good the riders really are.
Yes, finally something I agree with you. It would be great, this way we all could see what prototype racing is and the effect of a poor team and subpar developed bike would impact results.
he's making people look silly......
