2011 latest rossi/lorenzo/stoner

Ducati thinks stoner is going to honda



Honda says taking to stoner and also wants rossi back



yamaha thinks can keep rossi and lorenzo



http://www.racers-republic.com/motogp/887/ducati-insider-thinks-stoner-to-honda

twostrokebuzz said:

Ducati thinks stoner is going to honda



Honda says taking to stoner and also wants rossi back



yamaha thinks can keep rossi and lorenzo



http://www.racers-republic.com/motogp/887/ducati-insider-thinks-stoner-to-honda

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Stoners not happy. Thats obvious.

He might see a switch to Honda as a fresh start. Although how competetive he'd be is anyones guess.

Rossi back to Honda?, not a chance in hell imo.

I cant see Lorenzo switching bikes. He's just about got that Yamaha sorted & he's winning. Would he risk moving and not being able to keep up with Rossi?, I dont think so. I cant see Valentino going anywhere either, not at this stage in his career.

If Stoner does go to Honda, who's out? Pedrosa would be my pick at the minute. Where would he go?

How long are Yamaha going to keep Spies on a satalite bike?

Here's looking forward to an eventful 2011

SprogTheDog said:

Stoners not happy. Thats obvious.

He might see a switch to Honda as a fresh start. Although how competetive he'd be is anyones guess.

Rossi back to Honda?, not a chance in hell imo.

I cant see Lorenzo switching bikes. He's just about got that Yamaha sorted & he's winning. Would he risk moving and not being able to keep up with Rossi?, I dont think so. I cant see Valentino going anywhere either, not at this stage in his career.

If Stoner does go to Honda, who's out? Pedrosa would be my pick at the minute. Where would he go?

How long are Yamaha going to keep Spies on a satalite bike?

Here's looking forward to an eventful 2011

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Stoner's back to being the Stoner of old - aka Crasher. ImO if Honda and Suzuki were the only 2 bikes in the world for Rossi, then he'd ride a Suzi - - Honda nfw.

Stoner to Honda - sounds very likely and then goodbye to Pedrobot. I don't rule out Lorenzo and Stoner at Honda - if big H wants to start winning. ImO they'd have more chance with Lorenzo and Dovi.



Rossi - Ducati or Ferrari and if not, then he's at Yamaha until he retires.

ptk50 said:

Stoner's back to being the Stoner of old - aka Crasher. ImO if Honda and Suzuki were the only 2 bikes in the world for Rossi, then he'd ride a Suzi - - Honda nfw.

Stoner to Honda - sounds very likely and then goodbye to Pedrobot. I don't rule out Lorenzo and Stoner at Honda - if big H wants to start winning. ImO they'd have more chance with Lorenzo and Dovi.



Rossi - Ducati or Ferrari and if not, then he's at Yamaha until he retires.

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If Lorenzo and stoner went to HRC, who would be #1 rider. I cant see either wanting to be the #2 to eachother.

chopperman said:

If Lorenzo and stoner went to HRC, who would be #1 rider. I cant see either wanting to be the #2 to eachother.

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Of course behind 46!

I think Yamaha is going to wait and see what Rossi does but of course give him what he deserves. They would be idiots to let Lorenzo walk right now. Pretty straight forward spend the money and shaft Honda with the 1-2 wins for most of the season. I think Yamaha is just waiting for Rossi to retire, its coming close to that time maybe another year or so. I just don’t see him changing rides, he knows the Yamaha inside and out, he could lose another year due to development and that year could be important, remember he's near the end of a career unlike Lorenzo who can afford one development year finishing a respectable 2nd. Rossi wants the title he wants to be THE LEGEND on paper hands down. Once Rossi retires bring Ben up to take #2 spot at the factory, he seems to need a few more years anyways. Predrobot would be a great candidate for Suzuki, maybe he can do something with that bike or be pushed to a satellite team. I would think if Honda really wanted to crush Pedrobot they could bring Lorenzo over to take his place, that sure would burn up Pedrobot's resisters! Its all about cash and Honda seems to have that part bankrolled.





The other thing that’s looking to be shaping up is Aprilla coming to MotoGP that would add 2 more riders and I've heard Max might make a comeback, I'll call it a cameo. I thought there was another team coming on board too. I'd like to see BMW in MotoGP as well. More bikes larger grid would be better.

VHMP01 said:

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Of course behind 46!

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Not that simple, what if Lorenzo finishes 2nd and Stoner 3rd, but Stoner wins the last 3-4 and is on a roll, and clearly the dominant rider at the moment

SprogTheDog said:

Stoners not happy. Thats obvious.

He might see a switch to Honda as a fresh start. Although how competetive he'd be is anyones guess.

Rossi back to Honda?, not a chance in hell imo.

I cant see Lorenzo switching bikes. He's just about got that Yamaha sorted & he's winning. Would he risk moving and not being able to keep up with Rossi?, I dont think so. I cant see Valentino going anywhere either, not at this stage in his career.

If Stoner does go to Honda, who's out? Pedrosa would be my pick at the minute. Where would he go?

How long are Yamaha going to keep Spies on a satalite bike?

Here's looking forward to an eventful 2011

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I dont think Spies has earned a Factory bike yet. If he his getting a bunch of podiums this year and next year, then he can move to a works bike. If Lorenzo and Rossi stay, Spies can leave or if his numbers are really good, maybe a 3rd factory bike can be put into effect.

Tikki said:

The other thing that’s looking to be shaping up is Aprilla coming to MotoGP that would add 2 more riders and I've heard Max might make a comeback, I'll call it a cameo. I thought there was another team coming on board too. I'd like to see BMW in MotoGP as well. More bikes larger grid would be better.

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it would be awesome if Aprilia came back into MotoGP, but they dont have the pockets for it. There will have to be a big sponsor to make an Aprilia team happen. Last time they tried, they almost when bust and Piaggio bought/saved them.

FACTORY said:

it would be awesome if Aprilia came back into MotoGP, but they dont have the pockets for it. There will have to be a big sponsor to make an Aprilia team happen. Last time they tried, they almost when bust and Piaggio bought/saved them.

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Damn, i remember the time i first heard the cube with Laconi ringing it's neck at donny. Best sounding bike of all time imo I dont think were going to get many big sponsor's willing to dole out the cash needed for a few years yet. Shame because id also love to see Aprilia back and teams like Ilmore and KR.

povol said:

Not that simple, what if Lorenzo finishes 2nd and Stoner 3rd, but Stoner wins the last 3-4 and is on a roll, and clearly the dominant rider at the moment

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It sounds like the end of 09 bro!



Although I was just kidding really with my previous comment!

chopperman said:

Damn, i remember the time i first heard the cube with Laconi ringing it's neck at donny. Best sounding bike of all time imo I dont think were going to get many big sponsor's willing to dole out the cash needed for a few years yet. Shame because id also love to see Aprilia back and teams like Ilmore and KR.

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The Aprilia RS3 Cube was so awesome. Just too much new stuff all at once to try and develop. pneumatic valves, fly by wire throttle, carbon fiber front fork tubes (off their 250 design).



http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/Aprilia/GP/2004/2004_cube_1024.jpg



http://www.visordown.com/news/images/Aprilia-MotoGP-RS3-Cube450.jpg

In Yamaha's case, what happens to the rider that is not chosen to stay. Lets assume that Yamaha retains Rossi and allows Lorenzo to leave . Jarvis has said that he wants next years deals done by Laguna. What if at Laguna, Yamaha announces that Rossi has resigned and Lorenzo is leaving for Ducati, and Lorenzo is leading the championship at that time. Would he be allowed to to win the title.

Whatever happens, I think it's safe to say Nicky Hayden may wind up screwed again! Can you imagine if Ducati went after Pedrosa, I bet Nicky would go ballistic!

My question is just how hard would Ducati go after Pedro, do they even want him? I'm hoping Ducati reward Nicky with a renwal, he's busted his butt for them so that they can go after Rossi or Lorenzo.

Would anyone try and lure Nicky away from Ducati? I know fantasy speak, but I think some folks now see that Nicky can develop a bike, and with 1000cc bike back in 2012 he could possibly be a podium favorite more often?



There is a whole lot going on this year, has there ever been this many rider contracts ending in a single season?

L8Braker said:

Whatever happens, I think it's safe to say Nicky Hayden may wind up screwed again! Can you imagine if Ducati went after Pedrosa, I bet Nicky would go ballistic!

My question is just how hard would Ducati go after Pedro, do they even want him? I'm hoping Ducati reward Nicky with a renwal, he's busted his butt for them so that they can go after Rossi or Lorenzo.

Would anyone try and lure Nicky away from Ducati? I know fantasy speak, but I think some folks now see that Nicky can develop a bike, and with 1000cc bike back in 2012 he could possibly be a podium favorite more often?



There is a whole lot going on this year, has there ever been this many rider contracts ending in a single season?

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In the past and especially in 2006, I've never been a big Nicky fan. That said, he's definitely the right man for Ducati right now, even if he's not in the alien league and there are only 2 of them. Ducati would have to be outright stupid to prefer Pedrognome to him - Nicky is the first rider to provide real feedback and develop the 800 - not to mention his experience on 1000's, which they will need going forward.



Pedrosa is a bit like Stoner - good when everythings good and otherwise a crasher and whiner. All the talk about Spies and factory bike in 2011 is ImO far too early - let's see some 2010 podiums first and then start to speculate. Lorenzo and Dovi at Honda in 2011 is certainly thinkable. And don't write-off Rossi for 2010 - he's only 9 points adrift and recognizing his problems with the Yamaha. One thing is for sure either lorenzo or Rossi will leave Yamaha at the end of 2010 - depending on who ends up as WC.



Anyway going back to my opening and 2006 - I really would like to see Nicky get some podiums in 2010 and then who knows in 2011 maybe Pedrobot and Stoner will land at Suzuki to provide them with the best - almost unchallengeable - reason for not winning. Personally I prefere the racing to the funny season - even if it does provoke some crazy speculation.

L8Braker said:

Would anyone try and lure Nicky away from Ducati? I know fantasy speak, but I think some folks now see that Nicky can develop a bike, and with 1000cc bike back in 2012 he could possibly be a podium favorite more often?

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Suzuki i think will try it. Crash were reporting that Loris was thinking about leaving, and Nicky is exactly what Suzuki need right now. But i'm sure he wont go if he has basically any other offer on the table.

Tom said:

Suzuki i think will try it. Crash were reporting that Loris was thinking about leaving, and Nicky is exactly what Suzuki need right now. But i'm sure he wont go if he has basically any other offer on the table.

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Yea, Loris want's to come back on a Satellite Ducati team, I'll wager that happens.



Suzuki....bare with me for a moment on this as I jump to motocross. It wasn't that long ago that Suzuki in motocross was where riders went to die or end their careers. They finally got tired of loosing and stepped up and hired Roger DeCoster to manage the program, immediately Roger made sweeping changes to the program and signed the GOAT of motocross Ricky Carmichael. I remember everyone saying Ricky will never make it work; no one can win a championship on a Suzuki....they were wrong. Now Suzuki is one of the best programs in the US in motocross and supercross.

...what am I trying to say about Suzuki....it can be turned around, I think getting rid of Denning would be a step in the right direction, putting Puig in place with Pedrosa riding could do that team wonders....but that's just my $.02.

Ducati plot Jorge Lorenzo swoop



By Matthew Birt -



MotoGP



26 May 2010 14:10



Ducati will turn to Jorge Lorenzo if Casey Stoner drops a bombshell and signs a factory Honda deal for 2011.



Bologna factory management confirmed to MCN that Spaniard Lorenzo has already been approached for next season as speculation intensifies that Stoner will move to the Repsol Honda squad.



Ducati has conceded it faces a monumental fight to keep 2007 world champion Stoner, with Honda launching an aggressive bid for the Australian.



Lorenzo, who currently leads the MotoGP world championship after successive victories in Jerez and Le Mans, turned down Ducati last season when he was the subject of a lucrative offer to quit Yamaha.



But the 23-year-old could be available in 2010 with Yamaha wrestling with how to accommodate Valentino Rossi, Lorenzo and Ben Spies in its star-studded line-up.



Ducati is also cagey on reports that it has already instigated one final daring raid on reigning world champion Rossi.



A Rossi/Ducati partnership is the dream of just about every single racing fan on the planet, but the 31-year-old once again stated his intention last week was to end his career with Yamaha.



So with Rossi’s signature most likely to be unobtainable for Ducati and the prospect of Stoner departing now a real and serious threat, Ducati may launch a concerted effort to lure six-times MotoGP winner Lorenzo.



Ducati boss Filippo Preziosi told MCN: “Maybe it is possible that Lorenzo is available and of course we have contact with his manager.



"At the moment it seems that Valentino is not available and maybe Jorge could be available. Every time there is the possibility to have different riders the first rumours are always related to Valentino because he is a very strong rider and also Italian.



"To be honest I’ve read what Valentino has said about his intention to stay in Yamaha and I’ve read that Yamaha wants to keep Valentino, so I don’t see the possibility for Valentino to change.



"If they are happy to keep him and he is happy to stay there it seems easy they can find an agreement.



Not surprisingly, Ducati and Honda played down intense speculation that Stoner had already inked a deal to ride an RC212V for HRC in 2011.



Stoner’s father and manager Colin Stoner was locked in several lengthy discussions with Ducati and Honda management at the Spanish MotoGP in Jerez earlier this month.



Negotiations between Stoner and Honda are eased somewhat by the fact that former Malboro Ducati team manager Livio Suppo is now chief rider negotiator at HRC.

But a Honda swoop for Stoner is no big shock for Preziosi.



He added: “Speaking with Livio last year it was clear that he would try and sign Casey for next season and it is obvious that he has to speak with him in order to define what could be their proposal.



"As far as we are concerned nothing is signed. It is normal that Honda have contacted Casey. Honda is the main motorcycle manufacturer in the world and it is no surprise that a rider would be interested in what they propose.



"I have a very good relationship with Casey and I’m sure what his and our decision will be, there won’t be any problems.”



Stoner has won 20 races for Ducati and been the only rider to enjoy any semblance of success on the notoriously finicky Desmosedici.



He has been a fundamental element of Ducati’s premier class success and Ducati won’t let him leave without a fight.



Preziosi said: “We are doing our best in order for Casey to be happy to remain with Ducati. We want him to be happy with the team, the bike and the way of working.”

chopperman said:

Damn, i remember the time i first heard the cube with Laconi ringing it's neck at donny. Best sounding bike of all time imo I dont think were going to get many big sponsor's willing to dole out the cash needed for a few years yet. Shame because id also love to see Aprilia back and teams like Ilmore and KR.

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Wouldn`t the door be open to Aprilla in 2012 with the production (ish) regulations and their present bike in WSBK,Rog?

Otis Driftwood said:

Wouldn`t the door be open to Aprilla in 2012 with the production (ish) regulations and their present bike in WSBK,Rog?

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it should be.....but I think a sponsor will need to step forward to foot that bill first. even as a "non competitive bike", the cost would be much higher than WSBK. I am sure they want to maybe get 4 bikes on the WSBK grid first and then look towards a MotoGP team.



I would love to see the RSV4 run around with the other bikes and see how it stacks up!!