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..... Machine, if you died tomorrow the reality is no one on this forum who matters would notice your absence. They would just notice a lack of klogging and be happier for it.

See, that's where you and your coterie of impotent haters miss the bus. You give yourselves ulcers and high blood pressure taking yourselves so seriously and your posts are so full of vitriol because you have no life outside the forum. That's why the bunch of you grasp so furiously at the illusion of power over the feelings of others. Unlike you all, Barry never loses his sense of proportion or perspective. He has so much joie de vivre and lack of concern for what the petty little Mean Girls think, yet like Mean Girls the world over you cling to the illusion that anything you say matters in the least.

Haters don't matter. They never do.
 
But it’s ok when Theo wishes Rossi dies amitite?

There you go with the self indulgent hyperbole, creating drama where there is none. Why make yourself sick over what is only ones and zeros on a computer monitor. Theo never said he wanted Rossi to die. He made a hypothetical remark about if he had a choice between losing one rider over another, and you lost your .... over it. You can't see how ludicrous that is?
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.
 
There you go with the self indulgent hyperbole, creating drama where there is none. Why make yourself sick over what is only ones and zeros on a computer monitor. Theo never said he wanted Rossi to die. He made a hypothetical remark about if he had a choice between losing one rider over another, and you lost your .... over it. You can't see how ludicrous that is?

No. In fact noone but you and your sickopants friends can
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.

Here is what I said.

On another note its a shame that the rider who died in 2011, wasn't Rossi. Maybe then we wouldn't have the antics we see now.

What is sick about that, a man died it could have been Rossi, but it wasn't. The fact remains that since that time Rossi has been the bear in the pit, just shows what a revolting individual he's become.
Also take into consideration the two words "wasn't Rossi". But then I expect like all the other custard eaters you see what you want to see.
Also I'd not boo cheer or anything else when rider comes off, not like the yellow fans who boo all and sundry if they get past their hero.
Just carry on now.
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.

I bet they don’t have the balls to print Theo’s “ hypothetical “declaration on a T shirt and wear it to a race.
Easy to type .... on the internet that your too cowardly to back up in the real world
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.
Would you link this for me. I seem to be missing out on the point of these "discussions". I got sucked in to another one, without knowing what was happening. I am not participating. I would just like to determine my own prejudices, IN PRIVATE.

Thanks
 
Would you link this for me. I seem to be missing out on the point of these "discussions". I got sucked in to another one, without knowing what was happening. I am not participating. I would just like to determine my own prejudices, IN PRIVATE.

Thanks
Look two posts above, he quoted himself along with his 'excuses'.
 
Here is what I said.



What is sick about that, a man died it could have been Rossi, but it wasn't. The fact remains that since that time Rossi has been the bear in the pit, just shows what a revolting individual he's become.
Also take into consideration the two words "wasn't Rossi". But then I expect like all the other custard eaters you see what you want to see.
Also I'd not boo cheer or anything else when rider comes off, not like the yellow fans who boo all and sundry if they get past their hero.
Just carry on now.

Once a .... always a .......
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.

I hear Ikea is having a sale on fainting couches with special salty tears absorbent throw pillows.
I bet you could get a ladies drama club group discount.
 
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I hear Ikea is having a sale on fainting couches with special salty tears absorbent throw pillows.
I bet you could get a ladies drama club group discount.

I dislike Rossi a lot and wish he'd retire instead of continuing to ride.

However, wishing he died instead of Simoncelli is indefensible. Don't try to even defend that comment Theo made.
 
....... ........, Theo's comment was sick, has never been retracted or apologised for. By trying to make it a lesser offence you stand alongside the prat that wrote it.
Here is what I said.

On another note its a shame that the rider who died in 2011, wasn't Rossi. Maybe then we wouldn't have the antics we see now.

What is sick about that, a man died it could have been Rossi, but it wasn't. The fact remains that since that time Rossi has been the bear in the pit, just shows what a revolting individual he's become.
Also take into consideration the two words "wasn't Rossi". But then I expect like all the other custard eaters you see what you want to see.
Also I'd not boo cheer or anything else when rider comes off, not like the yellow fans who boo all and sundry if they get past their hero.
Just carry on now.

Fascinating! As an aside, no wonder our “democracies” are in the toilet, we are in charge and we’ve made a mess of it because anything can be rationalized, and certainly based on your logic above, anything is fair game.

First of all, I am fully cognizant it’s a lost cause, whatever I say on this below will likely escape your appreciation, my reply to you is mostly for those readers who will immediately see the folly of your “logic” in defending something indefensible Theo, given your disturbing and irrational argument. It is fascinating that you are doubling down on your lamenting it were Rossi losing his life rather than Simoncelli dying in a horrifying accident in a sport we follow passionately; presumably why we all spend so much time here ‘on occasion’ talking about racing at length. This is after all, a racing exchange of ideas, so at very least we are on topic, I’ll give us that.

On one hand you bemoan the media antics of Rossi after the Argentine debacle, including mention of the “booing” of riders by his fans based on some notion of moral ‘principle’ whilst simultaneously on the other hand making an extremely depraved statement lamenting your preference for Rossi’s death rather than Simonchelli. You lament it wasn’t Vale rather than Marco, for what exactly? Oh yeah, to save yourself the trouble of suffering through Rossi’s stupid media ‘antics’, the world would be a better place according to you if Rossi’s life had been taken instead of that other Italian. I’m literally shaking my head writing this Theo. Other than a couple of members here defending you like Barry Machine and Littleton, I can’t imagine too many people coming out in support of your statement, much less your “logic” in attempt at defending it.

I don’t like Rossi Theo. I wish he had retired in 2007 when he was threatening to leave if he didn’t get this and that. I think we can discuss/debate his lopsided popularity and influence in the sport; however, we should place the blame on the series organizers for creating a corrupt situation where he has been and is able to make demands and have them met. It should be said that Dorna, particularly under the leadership of Carmelo Ezpeleta have ruined the authenticity of competition of the sport. Rossi can only make demands, say whatever he wants to the media, have as many motorhome meetings as he want, but ultimately it’s the series authorities that are suppose to check individual influence and preside evenhandedly, fair, and just. But for this, I’m not going to wish Carmelo get hit by a truck either. Surely I would not (like you) cite for the sake of inflammatory affect one of the most emotional and upsetting moments of our sport, then use it to say, I wish Carmelo had been killed by it, no matter how popular you think the sentiment would be.

You are out of line Theo. We all have had dim thoughts here and there, but ‘most’ of us have enough ‘self-control’ to keep certain thoughts to ourselves (granted not everybody has this quality, as you have learned from the flame wars, which started because some here couldn’t keep their mouth shut about their smug judgmental thoughts regarding other’s personal lives. Not surprisingly the only people defending you here are the same ones you have aligned yourself with on this matter.) This is one of the lessons of adulthood that children are still working out. You have kids? Has one of your kids ever said, Daddy I wish you were dead, or I ‘hate’ you!’, in reaction to telling them to get off the TV, video game device, taking away the keys to the car, or whatever? I’ve heard my nephews say it to my brother a few times actually, and I’m sure I will eventually hear it at some point.

You should have retracted your statement unequivocally, apologized, and said, ‘.... guys, my bad, this guy sometimes just pisses me off and I’ll blurt out the stupidest things.’ No shame in that, we’ve all said stupid .... we have regretted, except you don’t seem to regret it at all, in fact you have doubled down!
 
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I dislike Rossi a lot and wish he'd retire instead of continuing to ride.

However, wishing he died instead of Simoncelli is indefensible. Don't try to even defend that comment Theo made.

It's a hypothetical choice between the lesser of two evils. Who exactly has been injured by it? Answer: Nobody.

On the other hand, you and others have expressed on several occasions propagated the malicious sentiment that one or more members deserved at the moment of death to be further humiliated by the knowledge that he was unloved by all the members of consequence. This, you said to an actual, person.
This is the statement of a person who is ghoulish and depraved.
 
Fascinating! As an aside, no wonder our “democracies” are in the toilet, we are in charge and we’ve made a mess of it because anything can be rationalized, and certainly based on your logic above, anything is fair game.

First of all, I am fully cognizant it’s a lost cause, whatever I say on this below will likely escape your appreciation, my reply to you is mostly for those readers who will immediately see the folly of your “logic” in defending something indefensible Theo, given your disturbing and irrational argument. It is fascinating that you are doubling down on your lamenting it were Rossi losing his life rather than Simoncelli dying in a horrifying accident in a sport we follow passionately; presumably why we all spend so much time here ‘on occasion’ talking about racing at length. This is after all, a racing exchange of ideas, so at very least we are on topic, I’ll give us that.

On one hand you bemoan the media antics of Rossi after the Argentine debacle, including mention of the “booing” of riders by his fans based on some notion of moral ‘principle’ whilst simultaneously on the other hand making an extremely depraved statement lamenting your preference for Rossi’s death rather than Simonchelli. You lament it wasn’t Vale rather than Marco, for what exactly? Oh yeah, to save yourself the trouble of suffering through Rossi’s stupid media ‘antics’, the world would be a better place according to you if Rossi’s life had been taken instead of that other Italian. I’m literally shaking my head writing this Theo. Other than a couple of members here defending you like Barry Machine and Littleton, I can’t imagine too many people coming out in support of your statement, much less your “logic” in attempt at defending it.

I don’t like Rossi Theo. I wish he had retired in 2007 when he was threatening to leave if he didn’t get this and that. I think we can discuss/debate his lopsided popularity and influence in the sport; however, we should place the blame on the series organizers for creating a corrupt situation where he has been and is able to make demands and have them met. It should be said that Dorna, particularly under the leadership of Carmelo Ezpeleta have ruined the authenticity of competition of the sport. Rossi can only make demands, say whatever he wants to the media, have as many motorhome meetings as he want, but ultimately it’s the series authorities that are suppose to check individual influence and preside evenhandedly, fair, and just. But for this, I’m not going to wish Carmelo get hit by a truck either. Surely I would not (like you) cite for the sake of inflammatory affect one of the most emotional and upsetting moments of our sport, then use it to say, I wish Carmelo had been killed by it, no matter how popular you think the sentiment would be.

You are out of line Theo. We all have had dim thoughts here and there, but ‘most’ of us have enough ‘self-control’ to keep certain thoughts to ourselves (granted not everybody has this quality, as you have learned from the flame wars, which started because some here couldn’t keep their mouth shut about their smug judgmental thoughts regarding other’s personal lives. Not surprisingly the only people defending you here are the same ones you have aligned yourself with on this matter.) This is one of the lessons of adulthood that children are still working out. You have kids? Has one of your kids ever said, Daddy I wish you were dead, or I ‘hate’ you!’, in reaction to telling them to get off the TV, video game device, taking away the keys to the car, or whatever? I’ve heard my nephews say it to my brother a few times actually, and I’m sure I will eventually hear it at some point.

You should have retracted your statement unequivocally, apologized, and said, ‘.... guys, my bad, this guy sometimes just pisses me off and I’ll blurt out the stupidest things.’ No shame in that, we’ve all said stupid .... we have regretted, except you don’t seem to regret it at all, in fact you have doubled down!

Fascinating mumbo jumbo demagoguery using false equivalencies and straw man arguments under the guise of defending democracy while simultaneously attacking free speech. I give it 5 Klogs :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
 
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It's a hypothetical choice between the lesser of two evils. Who exactly has been injured by it? Answer: Nobody.

On the other hand, you and others have expressed on several occasions propagated the malicious sentiment that one or more members deserved at the moment of death to be further humiliated by the knowledge that he was unloved by all the members of consequence. This, you said to an actual, person.
This is the statement of a person who is ghoulish and depraved.

Get the .... out of here.

The lesser of two evils, do you even listen to the .... you're typing? Simoncelli's death was horrific. And to make light of it by wishing it was Rossi instead is ....... despicable, and that comes from someone who thinks Rossi has been a blight on MotoGP.

And get real already, I didn't wish death on anyone. Keep charging at those windmills Lil Kancer!
 
It's a hypothetical choice between the lesser of two evils. Who exactly has been injured by it? Answer: Nobody.

On the other hand, you and others have expressed on several occasions propagated the malicious sentiment that one or more members deserved at the moment of death to be further humiliated by the knowledge that he was unloved by all the members of consequence. This, you said to an actual, person.
This is the statement of a person who is ghoulish and depraved.

If you believe that Valentino Rossi, Marco Simoncelli or any other rider on that grid possesses a quality of evil that you should just leave now. You have zero respect from any sensible member of this forum and your comments recently will ensure you never will
 
Would you link this for me. I seem to be missing out on the point of these "discussions". I got sucked in to another one, without knowing what was happening. I am not participating. I would just like to determine my own prejudices, IN PRIVATE.

Thanks

I've read you say this a couple of times Iampony, and I'm compelled as before to politely correct you. YOU cannot be obliged to get "sucked" (unwillingly) into a conversation that YOU yourself became part of by ENTERING into it willing in an attempt to 'mock a racial slur' (see your "Mexican Monkey Bread" post) then using the "logic" that such a ‘slur must not exist because “you live in California and have never heard of it!" And just like that, YOU have let Kesh off the hook for not only using a 'PRECISE' racial slur, relevant to ME (no,not a random racial slur, one specific to the guy he is flame waring with, increasingly getting aggravated with, and digging deeper for provocation) and backed it up with pictures of monkeys (plausible deniability). What an amazing coincidence!

Recap:

1. You were not “sucked into” it unwillingly, YOU entered it willfully, FACT. Nobody forced or had cited your name for reference in the discussion UNTIL YOU, based on your own admission ‘tried to insert levity toward a racial slur’.
2. You did so by mocking a ‘real racial slur’ used here by your buddy Kesh on this forum.
3. You rudely said you refused to read my polite explanation, doubling down on your conclusion that such a slur must not exist because of your all encompassing knowledge on the subject, and found there to be no reference of it in the archives of your memory. Perhaps your memory isn’t what it use to be, since you had also forgot you posted a picture of yourself at a race when you declared I had no idea how you looked, presumably to buttress your acumen on the subject of race.

You may continue to claim you don’t want to be “dragged into these conversations” though as a point of FACT you have ‘dragged yourself into these, and I fully expect you to react negatively to me pointing out this detail. You’ve made it clear that I am your enemy, though as before I challenge you to explain why, as I have had few interactions with you, and certainly not contentious. As I’ve said, if anything, I’ve been positively supportive of you since you made public your health challenges. Perhaps you confused me with someone else.

I will note, again you entered 'again' this conversation on your own in the now infamous thread that highlights Keshav’s peculiar lack of credibility; “Non-Trolling Pledge”, you willingly ‘again’ entered the conversation (nobody sucked you into it). Though your particular ‘grievance’ is fascinating, you propose Synn stop his profanity, because women on the forum will be repulsed by the word “kunt” (....) YET, based on your notion of civility, you haven’t given it a thought that in the pantheon of disgusting taunts, a racial slurs might be more egregious to women? You bypassed Kesh and Barry Machine’s lowest attempts to bait and provoke a response using distasteful racial goading, stepping right over that, and went straight to the word ‘....’ that is used rather benignly given the Britishism connotation of our membership. I don’t get it, maybe you and I have a different idea of what women might be more aggrieved about, but I’m going with: racial slur>kunt.
 
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