WTF has happned to Rossi?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 19 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good points except I think they are both number 1. Lorentho #1 for Yamaha-Michelin shod and Rossi #1 Yamaha-Bridgstone shod.

So when they both have different but urgent request for chassi changes Yamaha will construct and machine them in parallell and give them both the parts after three weeks rather than jump on Rossi's request and finsh that to the next race?
Me think not. They may be spearated in the pit box because of tires but they are stil a team and they only have so much resourses at the racing division.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jan 19 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So when they both have different but urgent request for chassi changes Yamaha will construct and machine them in parallell and give them both the parts after three weeks rather than jump on Rossi's request and finsh that to the next race?
Me think not. They may be spearated in the pit box because of tires but they are stil a team and they only have so much resourses at the racing division.
Oh their resources are not limitless? Uhm, this reminds me of another debate. (Interesting how you made the case that this would not disrupt the flow of supply in the case when we debated the tire issue).


If they had to choose between one or the other, then yes, Rossi is the preferred (as he is in everything). But I don't think this is the case. I think they have a factory team with two #1s. Yamaha is smart enough to know they have a shot at coming 1-2 in the standings (unlike Honda who think the way to get a #1 is to sacrifice the #2). The #2s for Yamaha are called Tech 3. This may be difficult for you to understand, but what I'm talking about is the abstract concept of approaching the challenge of racing. I'm saying Yamaha's approach is to realize that they have two great talented riders, and have enough resources to give them both the best possible shot without having to diminish the possibilities of the other to make one emerge.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 20 2008, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh their resources are not limitless? Uhm, this reminds me of another debate. (Interesting how you made the case that this would not disrupt the flow of supply in the case when we debated the tire issue).

If you don't see the difference between increasing the work load 100% and increasing it about 10% witch is the case regarding the tires then I'm affraid you are beyond help. But when I think about it I guess it's not a surprice as non of you who are so upset about the tire deal gave no recognition to the fact that it was not a full team switching tires, but only one rider. A 2 rider team would require twice as many additional tires, another 100% that you ignored. but then again whats the big deal, it's just about adding a zero, and that isn't much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>If they had to choose between one or the other, then yes, Rossi is the preferred (as he is in everything). But I don't think this is the case. I think they have a factory team with two #1s. Yamaha is smart enough to know they have a shot at coming 1-2 in the standings (unlike Honda who think the way to get a #1 is to sacrifice the #2). The #2s for Yamaha are called Tech 3. This may be difficult for you to understand, but what I'm talking about is the abstract concept of approaching the challenge of racing. I'm saying Yamaha's approach is to realize that they have two great talented riders, and have enough resources to give them both the best possible shot without having to diminish the possibilities of the other to make one emerge.

Good pint, allthough I feel most teams have this approach. At the same time the team have to decide who too trust when they get conflicting information from the riders, but in this case as they have different tires they might have to listen to both and change the bikes accordingly. Problem is that Yamaha has a history of listening to too many or to the wrong people. Until Rossi came abourd they had a good bike that was unridable. So my guess is that if lunatic have problems adopting to the bike he is going to have a hard time convincing Yamaha he need something completly different.

damm i never knew me calling him a monkey would make him cut his hair

he looks much younger with short hairs, and i like him more with short hairs

so i guess the yammies wont be too far of the ducati's top speed given their new aero profile

Which one will be faster though? Given the difference in the two nose cones??

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wise_mumu @ Jan 21 2008, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so i guess the yammies wont be too far of the ducati's top speed given their new aero profile
Hopefully Yamaha will be more faster than last year so we can watch more duel between The Doctor and Stoner.
Interesting to see how M1 and GP8 battle head to head and toe to toe this season(especially on the straight}.
That's definitely worth to wait. Who's the best???
I do hope Rossi is

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Jan 21 2008, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopefully Yamaha will be more faster than last year so we can watch more duel between The Doctor and Stoner.
Interesting to see how M1 and GP8 battle head to head and toe to toe this season(especially on the straight}.
That's definitely worth to wait. Who's the best???
I do hope Rossi is

i meant the hair... duh

A split garage is not a problem especially with a Rookie on the other side... thats the easiest scenario.

Colin might have had some issues with it.

I think no matter what his hair length is he will always look like a troll. He is still my favorite rider, even though he is kind of ugly.


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wise_mumu @ Jan 21 2008, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i meant the hair... duh

Ooops..sorry..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Jan 22 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think no matter what his hair length is he will always look like a troll. He is still my favorite rider, even though he is kind of ugly.


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that looks alot more like casey than valentino for sure with those ears.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jan 22 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that looks alot more like casey than valentino for sure with those ears.


^^^I found a baby picture of stoner on the web. It looks like he almost grew into his head.

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