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WSBK Rd3 - Valencia

Why No love for Mad Max?
He is doing his usual... Getting me mad interested in his season only to run wide and come in second or third...


Good race.. I think Checa needs a factory ride.. he is still very fast.
Haslam. I like him. He may win it. he seems to keep his head. Max..I want you to win.. Your arrogance always does you in...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 14 2010, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does anybody know where I can look up the attendance?

Just watch the video and count them... i think there was probably 5 or 6 people there!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 14 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just watch the video and count them... i think there was probably 5 or 6 people there!
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Yeah no ..... I was surprised actually, I thought Spain was motocrazy.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 14 2010, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Yeah no ..... I was surprised actually, I thought Spain was motocrazy.
Supoerbikes have never really been on the radar in Spain, receives little mainstream coverage - and still none on terrestrial TV. When Xaus came into MotoGp, he was virtually an unknown in Spain since he had come from a little known series called WSBk. On the other hand, you'd have thought Checa and Nieto's move in the opposite direction would have generated substantial interest, even though Fonsi's gone back to GP.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 14 2010, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Supoerbikes have never really been on the radar in Spain, receives little mainstream coverage - and still none on terrestrial TV. When Xaus came into MotoGp, he was virtually an unknown in Spain since he had come from a little known series called WSBk. On the other hand, you'd have thought Checa and Nieto's move in the opposite direction would have generated substantial interest, even though Fonsi's gone back to GP.
Dude, I don't get this. In fact, I don't get how anybody who likes MotoGP would not be close to equally interested in WSBK. Ok, I get the WSBK is a relative new comer, but seeing the product they've managed to put on the field in the last 5 years should be on anybody's radar who has a passion for two-wheel racing. I don't get it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 14 2010, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude, I don't get this. In fact, I don't get how anybody who likes MotoGP would not be close to equally interested in WSBK. Ok, I get the WSBK is a relative new comer, but seeing the product they've managed to put on the field in the last 5 years should be on anybody's radar who has a passion for two-wheel racing. I don't get it.
I think a member like Teo would be infinitely more qualified to answer this than I am, and I'd be intrigued to hear his views because you're right, it makes little sense. WSBk, in fact the entire superbike paradigm has been all but ignored in Spain.
 
Spain is too busy pumping out successfull 125 and 250 riders that are motogp and wsbk busts.
In the meantime the grids are still being filled with Puigs Jango Fett clone army.

Kawasaki has 13 points in the WSBK championship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 15 2010, 05:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kawasaki has 13 points in the WSBK championship.
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Oh but wait, they are coming back next year with a new bike! Ya right. Even if they do that, it's going to be two years of "development" excuses. I seriously feel bad for Vermi and Sykes, falling for the "Kawasaki trap" as I shall now call it. They rope in these great riders and do nothing but kill their careers. The only thing they have going good this year is Lascorz in WSS. I want to root for Kawasaki, I love an underdog, but they have put up nothing of a fight.
 
I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Suzuki GSXR-1000 is 13,300rpm. I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Honda CBR1000RR is 13,300rpm. This information has been obtained from a BSB Evo Suzuki rider, and a Honda Evo engine builder.

13,300rpm is coincidentally (maybe?) 12,500rpm + 100rpm for every season WSBK has run at 1000cc.

Getting closer to the obvious.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 15 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Suzuki GSXR-1000 is 13,300rpm. I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Honda CBR1000RR is 13,300rpm. This information has been obtained from a BSB Evo Suzuki rider, and a Honda Evo engine builder.
Really, I'd be fascinated to know who?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 15 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>13,300rpm is coincidentally (maybe?) 12,500rpm + 100rpm for every season WSBK has run at 1000cc.

Getting closer to the obvious.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 15 2010, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Really, I'd be fascinated to know who?


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I'd like to tell you. I'd like to have these people make posts on this message board letting everyone know how things work according to their experience; however, I didn't exactly tell them I think WSBK is rev limited.
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I was just asking innocent questions like an uninformed fan, and b/c Evo is a new class that is not factory administered, the lay people were more inclined to talk up the sport.

I'm more concerned with protecting their anonymity than I am motivated to convince people. Besides, that's only 2 of the 6 four cylinder bikes. It will be interesting to see if I can get more information about the other brands.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 15 2010, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Suzuki GSXR-1000 is 13,300rpm. I have learned that the FIM homologated rev limit for the Honda CBR1000RR is 13,300rpm. This information has been obtained from a BSB Evo Suzuki rider, and a Honda Evo engine builder.

13,300rpm is coincidentally (maybe?) 12,500rpm + 100rpm for every season WSBK has run at 1000cc.

Getting closer to the obvious.
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Why is this a revelation, the rule book states there is a rev limit in BSB. Whats your point
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 15 2010, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to tell you. I'd like to have these people make posts on this message board letting everyone know how things work according to their experience; however, I didn't exactly tell them I think WSBK is rev limited.
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I was just asking innocent questions like an uninformed fan, and b/c Evo is a new class that is not factory administered, the lay people were more inclined to talk up the sport.

I'm more concerned with protecting their anonymity than I am motivated to convince people. Besides, that's only 2 of the 6 four cylinder bikes. It will be interesting to see if I can get more information about the other brands.
I am calling absolute ........, there is nothing you wouldnt do to convince people of your conspiracy theory
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 15 2010, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am calling absolute ........, there is nothing you wouldnt do to convince people of your conspiracy theory
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I want people to be swayed by logic and facts not b/c so-and-so said I'm right. Same way I hoped Noyes would consider the possibility that the rev limit (in the rulebook) was junked so BMW wouldn't have an advantage.

It always ends the same way. It's not what people want to hear.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 15 2010, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I want people to be swayed by logic and facts not b/c so-and-so said I'm right. Same way I hoped Noyes would consider the possibility that the rev limit (in the rulebook) was junked so BMW wouldn't have an advantage.

It always ends the same way. It's not what people want to hear.
So know your saying their isnt a rev limit. It was junked when so BMW wouldnt have an advantage. I thought your argument all along was that there was a rev limit so BMW wouldnt have an advantage.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 15 2010, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So know your saying their isnt a rev limit. It was junked when so BMW wouldnt have an advantage. I thought your argument all along was that there was a rev limit so BMW wouldnt have an advantage.

There are two different rev limits. The one in the rulebook and the one in the homologation procedures.

The rev limit in the rulebook was eliminated b/c BMW decided to run over 1.5 bore-stroke ratio. Based upon the info I've gotten from BSB Evo the rev limit would have given BMW an advantage.

The homologation rev limit is what is limiting the sport, imo.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Apr 14 2010, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why No love for Mad Max?
I picked Max for the championship this year in another thread and I think he proved why at Valencia. Last year he struggled to get a pair of top 10's, this year two podiums. So if this isn't one of his favorite tracks and he podiums and takes some points away what will it be like when Max gets to some of his favorite rounds?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 16 2010, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are two different rev limits. The one in the rulebook and the one in the homologation procedures.

The rev limit in the rulebook was eliminated b/c BMW decided to run over 1.5 bore-stroke ratio. Based upon the info I've gotten from BSB Evo the rev limit would have given BMW an advantage.

The homologation rev limit is what is limiting the sport, imo.
Please do share. Homologation is basically eligibility requirements based on production. There is no mention of rev limits in the homologation process, and there is no rev limit mentioned in technical
regulations. Or are you talking about the secret 007 agreement. The bikes have rev limiters on them, but they dont have a rev limit. They are limited by the parts they are allowed to use and make it to the finish line. That is their limiter.
 

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