<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Sep 30 2009, 03:05 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What happened in 2003? In 2003 Rossi and Burgess developed the tactics of "not finding" the right setup until the end of the warmup, as a response to Honda regularly passing their complete setup data to Gresini and Puig.
Surely such a tactic is necessary only when the setup data are made available to the competing "teammates" (unless one wants to do generic sandbagging for the usual reasons; but doing sandbagging vs other teams is different from having to sandbag, and protect information, inside the same team). I doubt Rossi had any similar problem in Yamaha, at least until recently, so there was no reason for them to resort to this kind of tactics so far.
The whole point of my post was, if JB and VR were smart enough to do that in 2003, surely they have not become dumber since then. And certainly they want to work as little as possible for Lorenzo in the present situation. So...
Ok, let's say that did happen in 2003 but it was a time where Rossi could afford to behave like that. He had lot's of testing time on clearly the fastest bike so his main competition were other Honda riders with little clue on setup.
My point remain: ever since 2003 he has had close competition I simply could/can not afford that kind of trickery. He need the best bike he can get to beat the Hondas and the Ducaties., and you don't get that with sand baging though all the sessions. So, you are right, they have not become dumber, they are smart enough to not let hurt ego's and internal competition get in the way of the over all objective: To win.
. The substance of the post does not change though--JB and VR do not like working for the competition, especially teammates, and they have demonstrated in the past they're able to find appropriate countermeasures.
