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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 10 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I'm stunned ...... apparently Dani is in for Catalunya
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Puig is not doing a very good job of taking care of his rider
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its the extra-curricular massage therapy.....

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 9 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yup those bike were vicious beasts. Just another off the cuff remark by Tom showing he likes to comment on thing's he knows nothing about.

I feel i should point out that when Kevin was ridding the 500's, so was everyone else! It seems obvious but you have seem to struggle with even the basics. Schwantz's inconsistency and crash habbit was bad relative to his competitors. Standards may have shifted with the new bikes more prepared and proffessional riders we have now, but relative to the standards of the time comparisons can be drawn.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 10 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I feel i should point out that when Kevin was ridding the 500's, so was everyone else! It seems obvious but you have seem to struggle with even the basics. Schwantz's inconsistency and crash habbit was bad relative to his competitors. Standards may have shifted with the new bikes more prepared and proffessional riders we have now, but relative to the standards of the time comparisons can be drawn.
True but you were comparing schwantz's crash's on the 500 to Danis on the 800.

so enlighten us as to "Schwantz's inconsistency and crash habbit was bad relative to his competitors." and how his bike compared to his competitors please.

are you suggesting the riders of the golden era were not as proffessional as today's riders ?? explain
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jun 10 2009, 03:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I'm stunned ...... apparently Dani is in for Catalunya
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Puig is not doing a very good job of taking care of his rider
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We'll see how things go. If Dani crashes again then I think that a third party may have to put an end to his choice to continue to torture himself. I can't see him being fit to ride with the reported injuries, so it sounds like he is out there doing damage control to try and pick a few points up to remain in the title chase.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 11 2009, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True but you were comparing schwantz's crash's on the 500 to Danis on the 800.

so enlighten us as to "Schwantz's inconsistency and crash habbit was bad relative to his competitors." and how his bike compared to his competitors please.

are you suggesting the riders of the golden era were not as proffessional as today's riders ?? explain

Everyoe who races at the top level has crashes.
Some more than others.
A rider crashing should indicate the guy is putting everything on the line to be fast, and try to win.
Not neccesarily a lack of ability.
I have far more respect for guys who push the limits trying to win, and ultimately crash - rather than a guy who trundles around mid pack being safe.
 
Even though he is not a likelable guy, I have actually warmed to Pedro this year.
He is bloody fast when he is fit, and has had bad luck with injuries this year. You have to admire the guys courage racing one of these things injured.

If he is fit,
pedro is still well faster than Dovi and he was fester than Hayden. He should take some time off, get 100% fit, and come back and show his true speed. He needs to give Repsol and Honda faith to extend his contract for 2010. He's not going to do that with injured mid pack finishes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Jun 10 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Everyoe who races at the top level has crashes.
Some more than others.
A rider crashing should indicate the guy is putting everything on the line to be fast, and try to win.
Not neccesarily a lack of ability.
I have far more respect for guys who push the limits trying to win, and ultimately crash - rather than a guy who trundles around mid pack being safe.

If you aint crashin you aint trying, or what?

Pedro has been in the game for how many years, he should be done ditching his bike to be fast. He should understand the limits and indicators and ride just below. If he doesn't understand these limits and continues to push beyond the limits despite his riding ability and machine, crashes and is constantly injured, he will never be great. Yes even the great ones crash and get injured but not to the extent and detriment of Pedro IMO.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Jun 11 2009, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Everyoe who races at the top level has crashes.
Some more than others.
A rider crashing should indicate the guy is putting everything on the line to be fast, and try to win.
Not neccesarily a lack of ability.
I have far more respect for guys who push the limits trying to win, and ultimately crash - rather than a guy who trundles around mid pack being safe.
Yup. How do you know where the limit is until you step over it
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thats the one thing i liked about biaggi. win it or bin it
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silverware or hay bales.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 11 2009, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yup. How do you know where the limit is until you step over it
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thats the one thing i liked about biaggi. win it or bin it
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silverware or hay bales.

Biaggi bins it due to his weak mental game..... not due to him pushing the bike to it's limit.

HRC needs to get rid of Dani, plain and simple. The guy's too inconsistent, add to that all the injuries he's sustained. They should pick up Aoyama and end their relationship with Repsol, a change needs to be made whether with the president of HRC or with their Spanish ties.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Jun 11 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Biaggi bins it due to his weak mental game..... not due to him pushing the bike to it's limit.

HRC needs to get rid of Dani, plain and simple. The guy's too inconsistent, add to that all the injuries he's sustained. They should pick up Aoyama and end their relationship with Repsol, a change needs to be made whether with the president of HRC or with their Spanish ties.
If you say so
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 11 2009, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You've mellowed of late Rog, what's up?
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when wet behind the ears kids try and push there misguided opinions as facts and reading there view's in other threads that are disagreeing for the sake of it. you ask yourself "are they worthy of my time". in this case no.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Jun 11 2009, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Biaggi bins it due to his weak mental game..... not due to him pushing the bike to it's limit.

HRC needs to get rid of Dani, plain and simple. The guy's too inconsistent, add to that all the injuries he's sustained. They should pick up Aoyama and end their relationship with Repsol, a change needs to be made whether with the president of HRC or with their Spanish ties.
Are you sure it's not a combination of both? And why on earth would they dump Repsol? When you have financial stability like that you don't just throw it away. It's been proven time and again that Repsol are not adamant about having a Spanish rider, as the championships won by Doohan, Rossi and Hayden would suggest. And Aoyama could never touch Pedrosa. Your evaluations of rider talent is poor at best.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jun 11 2009, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You've mellowed of late Rog, what's up?
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Anger management. Rog's been going for years. Its only now starting to pay off.
 
Repsol's current publicity material (the oil company's, not the Honda team) features their sponsored riders raising a giant checkered flag in exactly the same manner as the iconic photo of the WWII Marines on Iwo Jima. superbikeplanet.com

Poll:

1. Good Taste?
2. Poor Taste?
3. Indifferent?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 12 2009, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anger management. Rog's been going for years. Its only now starting to pay off.
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In my defense, it was an emotional time for Rog, he was almost in tears when we finally found his lost ....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 12 2009, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Repsol's current publicity material (the oil company's, not the Honda team) features their sponsored riders raising a giant checkered flag in exactly the same manner as the iconic photo of the WWII Marines on Iwo Jima. superbikeplanet.com

Poll:

1. Good Taste?
2. Poor Taste?
3. Indifferent?


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FWLIW, I can't get too excited. I guess it takes 5 of Puig's midget-bois to raise one flag. IMO, it's typical corporate stupidity - dumb, unoriginal and tacky. Probably not worth getting into a froth.

If you Jarheads see things differently, that's understandable too. The midgets are carefully posed in the same manner as the Marines on Suribachi. (At least they're not standing on an obvious mountain top.)

I do wonder what flag of conquest they are raising? It's not like Peddles has set the world on fire lately...
 
poor tase/indifferent for me. it doesnt show much respect for the fallen soldiers of both side in that conflict but then again it did happen over 60 years ago. it might offend some of the older generations but does not really offend me. not worth getting heated about IMO.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jun 1 2009, 08:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MM has the potential but with such a high profile team, the pressure to perform all the time will IMO be very similar to going back to ducati. might work, might not.


Being on a high profile team has nothing to do with Marco not being able to ride the ducati. If he was on the works honda he's be running 2nd in the championship right now, behind vale, casey and whoregay.

If there's anyone who doesn't get enough credit for his skills it's marco.
 

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