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Tact

Joined Jul 2007
545 Posts | 0+
Casey clearly has very little....oooft!



From MCN





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Casey Stoner has criticised Valentino Rossi’s swift return to Yamaha after the Italian legend recently confirmed he will quit Ducati after a disastrous two-year stint with the Bologna factory.​
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The 33-year-old has been a shock failure to perform on board a factory Desmosedici and will return to Yamaha next season to partner bitter Spanish rival Jorge Lorenzo.​
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When Rossi arrived at Ducati in a blaze of publicity at the end of 2010, his move was heralded as the start of a golden era for the Bologna factory.​
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Ducati was desperate for the nine-times world champion to add to his record tally of 79 premier class victories having gone without a world title since Stoner’s domination of the 2007 campaign.​
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Big name riders like Loris Capirossi, Marco Melandri and Nicky Hayden were not able to even get close to matching Stoner’s results, who won 23 races in a four-year stint at Ducati.​
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Rossi is the highest profile rider to fail to master the Desmosedici and Stoner believes his return to Yamaha is a humbling one as he tries to recapture former glory alongside Lorenzo.​
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Rossi guided the Japanese factory to the most successful period in its history when he won 46 races and four world titles between 2004 and 2010.​
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But speaking to MCN shortly before Rossi’s return to Yamaha was confirmed in the short MotoGP summer break, Stoner said: “I think he's eating enough humble pie at the moment.​
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"I just feel completely sorry for Ducat that he has gone there and done nothing but complain about the bike and obviously they now have a bike that can do well because he keeps getting beaten by Nicky and Hector (Barbera) and that is nothing to be proud of.​
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"We heard all this stuff about how he was going to lead Ducati to greatness and we haven't seen any results.”​
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Rossi’s talent and renowned development skills were seen as the perfect combination to make the finicky Desmosedici a serious title contender again.​
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Yet in 27 appearances to date, Rossi has only been able to deliver two podium finishes and his humbling failure to get even remotely close to emulating Stoner has only enhanced the Australian’s reputation.​
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Stoner also relishes ramming taunts by Rossi and his legendary crew chief Jerry Burgess back down their throats.​
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Rossi and Burgess were both adamant they could fix Ducati’s long-standing front-end issues that Stoner frequently complained about towards the end of his tenure on a factory Desmosedici.​
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And Rossi enraged Stoner towards the end of 2010 when he said it was impossible to gauge the performance of Ducati because the 26-year-old wasn’t putting in maximum effort having already clinched a big money switch to Repsol Honda.​
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But Stoner told MCN: “They ate their words from day one. Jerry saying that it would take him 80 seconds to fix that bike and that it was a simple issue and now they have had pretty much two years on the thing have not made any inroads.​
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"Valentino got his best result in the dry virtually in his first race on the Ducati supposedly with shoulder injuries and I haven't seen any improvement over the past two years and this is disappointing.​
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"I feel sorry for the people behind that bike. Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect. He has admitted that. If he's had a bike that is that good in Yamaha before and hasn't had to push when the bike is not perfect then God knows how good that bike is.​
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"Obviously he doesn't want to put the effort in with Ducati. It is disappointing for them that they're doing all they can and he is not even trying to get the best out of it.​
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"There are certain riders in this paddock who have considered themselves test riders who can lead a manufacturer in the right direction and Valentino has certainly proved himself not to be the case with Ducati. It is just obvious that he needs an extremely good bike to be able to win.​
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"It is blatantly obvious that he can't win with a Ducati and make it competitive so he's looking for the first option out. He said he wanted to finish his career with them and now he wants to jump ship.”​
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Stoner also mocked the ‘let’s stick together; slogan recently used by Rossi on his special AGV helmet used at his recent home race in Mugello.​
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"He should (stay with Ducati) when recently he was wearing "let's stick together" on his helmet.​
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"The amount of times that guy has had to eat his words is not funny but people still forgive him for it,“ added Stoner, who heads to this weekend’s Indianapolis MotoGP round trailing Lorenzo by 32-points.​
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For more on Rossi’s move back to Yamaha, see a special report in the August 15 issue of MCN.​
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to be honest i don't see anything offensive or cheap there.actually just some facts,altough i'm sure if we talked to stoner without microphones in a private setting it'd get a bit more dirty.

after the 80 seconds and the "its difficult to assess the ducati because casey isn't pushing it" (or something like that ) comments he had it coming.

also the mugello helmet , well what he does now isn't sticking together is it
 
It doesnt matter what Casey thinks or doesn't think....he's retiring cause he hates the sport, his job is done (Honda will focus on Dani for rest of season), he can back to the farm and be happy.....
 
.... that, he's dead right. What comes around goes around.



Stoner's comment at the end shows what really eats him. That despite Rossi's last two years, Yamaha and pretty much everyone (excluding a few people on this forum) still forgives and moves on. Stoner's living in hate and bitterness at the moment. Adriana must be copping a beating.
 
Stoner's comment at the end shows what really eats him. That despite Rossi's last two years, Yamaha and pretty much everyone (excluding a few people on this forum) still forgives and moves on. Stoner's living in hate and bitterness at the moment. Adriana must be copping a beating.



Impressive bit of armchair psychology. Very convincing. Want me to do a bit on you?
 
Aye a lot of it is true but there are ways and means, he doesnt come across very professional. Rossi gets away with this .... because he's a global superstar, a pill Casey finds hard to swallow. Aye, Rossi shot his mouth off making him look a little daft but that'll be forgotten about when he's fighting at the top week in week out....whilst Ducati continue to struggle.



If i were Casey i'd of been a little smarter and said something along the lines of 'yeah, Rossi failed and its a shame for him and the guys at Ducati, at least it makes me look even more .... hot!'
 
Will you include an analysis of my posts after a night out on the turps? I tend to have less patience then.



Don't worry, I have enough material already. 'On the turps' ... had never seen that expression before. Aussie sick ......
 
If i were Casey i'd of been a little smarter and said something along the lines of 'yeah, Rossi failed and its a shame for him and the guys at Ducati, at least it makes me look even more .... hot!'



i think people know this already, and the smug undertones from Stoners words shows that Stoner knows this too.



To be fair to Stoner, how many other world champs in any sport can be as frank as this in interviews? Granted he's not staying around - but he's never been one to mince his words!
 
Aye a lot of it is true but there are ways and means, he doesnt come across very professional. Rossi gets away with this .... because he's a global superstar, a pill Casey finds hard to swallow. Aye, Rossi shot his mouth off making him look a little daft but that'll be forgotten about when he's fighting at the top week in week out....whilst Ducati continue to struggle.



If i were Casey i'd of been a little smarter and said something along the lines of 'yeah, Rossi failed and its a shame for him and the guys at Ducati, at least it makes me look even more .... hot!'



No, everybody is thinking it ........ Casey says it, so its out there ....... good on him.
 
I like the fact Casey is outspoken and what he says is right, VR gets forgiven for anything. But the fact that Casey doesn't is beginning to eat him up by the looks of it. But its like politics, NO point in fighting the system...



P.S. Steifel do it...i'd be interested to read!
 
Casey goes out of his way to not fluff when the topic is Rossi. He obviously loathes him. He sees in Rossi, the same things that non Rossi fans see. He views Rossi and Dorna as a single entity that have conspired against him from running off a Rossi like string of championships by drastically changing regs whenever he puts it together and is on the verge of domination. His book, if he even bothers to have one written, would be very telling. I doubt he even bothers, he will just let it fly in an interview and disappear into the outback.