Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa not going to Japan

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michaelm said:
I meant some Japanese, in particular the ones who hold the race, rather than all Japanese. Obviously they should in no way be pressured to hold the race, but surely if they choose to hold it in the prevailing circumstances it is their choice, and they presumably would be more cognisant of community or government opposition than motogp fans continents away.
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In that case, the race should definitely go ahead. Those Japanese involved in organizing the race really want it to happen.
 
Kropo, would Dorna not have done a lot of PR research? surely one would think it would be acceptable to go there if they were pushing it? I think it again falls back to folks worries about the real nuclear disaster problem ....... and what in fact is real.
 
Radiation level around Motegi has been in normal range and people are not running away from there. Business are going on as usual. It may be better to cancel the race if majority of motogp racers do not want to go. But, Honda simply cannot close the circuit when other businesses are open. If they do, it may spread baseless rumor that Motegi is unsafe and can potentially harm local economy. It is a matter of perspective, but most people in eastern Japan has no choice but rely on radiation level to assess the risk. Otherwise, they cannot live there.
 
moto3 said:
Radiation level around Motegi has been in normal range and people are not running away from there. Business are going on as usual. It may be better to cancel the race if majority of motogp racers do not want to go. But, Honda simply cannot close the circuit when other businesses are open. If they do, it may spread baseless rumor that Motegi is unsafe and can potentially harm local economy. It is a matter of perspective, but most people in eastern Japan has no choice but rely on radiation level to assess the risk. Otherwise, they cannot live there.
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That's the problem for stoner. Whether or not his attitude is reasonable, or even unreasonable but understandable, a hefty proportion of people who work for honda live and work in the vicinity of motegi.
 
PASSI said:
Would YOU bet your own life on that? I wouldnt. Its everybodys own desicion and I understand it completely!



you never know what the public is being told and what not. I wouldnt ride there if I was one of those guys...
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I base my decisions on evidence. When those with infinitely greater expertise, knowledge and understanding of an issue say there is no risk, I believe it would be unreasonable of me to make a decision, on fear rather than any real logic.
 
Kropotkin said:
Wrong question: How much money does hosting a GP generate? And where does that money go? Who benefits?



Certainly, the hotels and restaurants around Mito benefit from having the teams stay there, as well as the fans (though numbers are likely to be low). When I go to a race, I spend money at hotels, restaurants, gas stations, occasionally local shops. I use my phone, which generates money for the local telecom providers. I spend money at the track itself, buying drinks and the occasional sandwich. The circuit itself employs a whole host of staff, most of whom live locally, to provide services to the people at the race.



It is a false dichotomy to say that the money spent on the race should go on the recovery effort. The money spent on the race will either be spent on the race, spent elsewhere or not spent at all. There is no guarantee that any of that money will go towards the rebuilding effort.If the race is not held, a lot of small local businesses will lose money, and with less income, the circuit may have to look at firing people, lowering local income even further.



The point is, not organizing the race has some huge downsides. Sure, people are still living in sports halls. But their situation will be completely unaffected, whether the race is held or not. It is completely irrelevant to their situation, the resources dedicated to the rebuilding effort will be completely unaffected by the fact of a MotoGP race. The race could even be of benefit to them, by bringing money into the local area.



Jumkie is completely right to raise 9/11, though as you rightly point out, these are two completely different events. The underlying point is, should all public life grind to a halt after such an event, until such time as the situation is remedied? And if it should, when should life start again? If the criteria is that no races should be held while people are homeless, we could never organize a race anywhere ever again: there are probably hundreds of thousands of homeless people in the US, maybe a hundred thousand in the UK, and similar figures throughout Europe. How can we organize a race when these people have no shelter?



There is definitely a debate to be held over the wisdom of holding a race at Motegi. There are real risks - though as far as I can make out, those risks are very small indeed. There are questions over how much a race would benefit the region - though again, only the current state of some coastal areas of Japan is being highlighted, not the potential economic benefits. But if the MotoGP race should be canceled, then the World Trials Championship round should be canceled too, and Indycar, and the round of the Japanese Superbike championship. What makes MotoGP unique in this respect?



And before anyone asks, I will be gambling my life on this, that is, if Lorenzo stumps up the cash to pay for my trip.
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Great post. Also, it's a great festure for Lorenzo to pay for your trip. He is a very mature, calculated young talent.
 
So any updates? Is the Japanese GP going forward? If not, since Aragon was a replacement but now added to the schedule, would the Japanese GP be cancelled if they dont stage it?
 
The Japanese GP is going forward. Dorna was pretty clear.



Those that stated they were not going will be in full backtrack mode in my opinion.
 
Stoner has softened his stance and announced he is going to be a daddy.





http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/172012/1/stoner_to_be_a_father_softens_motegi_stance.html







On Thursday in the Czech Republic, MotoGP World Championship leader Casey Stoner announced that he is to become a father for the first time.



The 25-year-old Repsol Honda rider, married to Adriana, won the 2007 world championship for Ducati and starts this weekend's Brno round with a 20 point lead over Yamaha's reigning champion Jorge Lorenzo.



Stoner also explained that his wife's pregnancy was a major factor in his reluctance to attend the Japanese MotoGP at Motegi.



At the Sachsenring in mid-July Stoner had stated "I will not go", due to radiation fears, but he has softened his stance during the summer break.



“There was a period after Silverstone that I felt very strongly that I wasn't going to go there. After things I'd seen and heard,” commented the Australian. “But that came from a very strong emotion after we found out that Adriana was pregnant.



"We've discussed it a lot since then and that's a huge thing that's happened in my life and now the most important. I felt that the best thing I could do at that time was to make my mind up. There was no way I was going to risk my wife or my family and it was very tough.



“But in these weeks I've taken a lot of data from Australia, people we feel we can trust on the matter, and I'm now slightly more open to it than I was before. I think people can understand I was taken a little bit with my safety and that of my family in this matter.



"We'll see in these next weeks, we'll continue talking and try and find out as much information as we can. I'm not saying that I am going, but I'm not saying that I'm not now. So we'll just have to see what happens in the near future.”



Lorenzo had also said he will not attend the Motegi event and the majority of MotoGP riders signed a petition against holding the race.



However, an independent study recently declared that "the radiation risk during the [Motegi] event is negligible" and the Japanese MotoGP is thus expected to go ahead as planned on October 2.



The four other riders present at the Brno press conference on Thursday - Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, Alvaro Bautista and Karel Abraham - said that they would also wait further before making a firm decision, with a riders' Safety Commission meeting planned for Friday.



Motegi is around 110 km from the damaged Fukushima power plant.
 
digger said:
Casey Stoner has a .....??
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I dont know, but he does sometimes act like a .........



Welcome to 2000s. U dont need a ..... to get a girl pregnant. In Stoners defense, he may or may not hav a ....., but i think the current #1 Ducati rider will agree, Casey has balls (something said Ducati rider can recognize).
 
Jumkie said:
I dont know, but he does sometimes act like a .........



Welcome to 2000s. U dont need a ..... to get a girl pregnant. In Stoners defense, he may or may not hav a ....., but i think the current #1 Ducati rider will agree, Casey has balls (something said Ducati rider can recognize).
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Thanks Jumks , for a guided tour of Casey,s genitals.



Perhaps , you should quit before getting to Adriana......................
 
Bunyip said:
Thanks Jumks , for a guided tour of Casey,s genitals.



Perhaps , you should quit before getting to Adriana......................
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hahaha
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Well the saga continues. Rossi says Dorna made the wrong decision and now we have a problem. So Talpa, oh what will you do when Rossi changes his mind and go to Japan (or even worse, doesn't go--which is what I'm hoping he does, you know, to keep his word and all...?



"I really don't think I'll go to Japan," Rossi said. "I was hoping that the championship organizers would make the right decision, but that hasn't been the case, and now we've got a serious problem."
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http://superbikeplan...Aug/110815c.htm



(this should be good)
 
I don't get it,



A) He was as much at risk from earthquakes all of the times he has raced there.

B ) Independent test have given the all clear, he was at as much risk all of the times he has raced there.

C) Suzuka, I thought he never wanted to see that place again after the last time.



I need more explanation because it don't add up.
 

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