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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>(Paraphrasing) 'Lorenzo is a stupid boy.' And 'oh great now we have to watch one of his nauseating celebrations', and on and on about how much Lorenzo's character is ...... and has a big ego, etc. etc. It started with him immediately after Lorenzo crossed the line. And when Lorenzo's bike wouldn't start, he was happy saying 'good, maybe this will keep him from celebrating'.

Yeah, that was pretty harsh. I can't remember the name of that commentator on the BBC, I think he's actually an Aussie. Anyway, his remarks about Lorenzo were ridiculous, especially when he called him a stupid boy b/c he ran out of fuel or stalled the bike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have a question:

What is the name of the Brit commentator from, can't remember which feed but I know it was one of the UK ones, who said this:

(Paraphrasing) 'Lorenzo is a stupid boy.'

IIRC it was charlie cox (AKA "the ....". not because he has one, because he is one)

he is an annoying prick and his comments about lorenzo were totally unprofessional. this is why eurosport and toby, jules and randy are much preferred by many...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 27 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, Nick lost his cool. He was throwing gravel at Takahashi after the accident.

Nicky = Anakin Skywalker. He has more talent than everyone but Master Rossi; however he doesn't have the mental strength to keep it all together. He's won a couple of big races and a championship, but the DORNA council is holding him back with all of their stupid new rules.

Every day at Honda, Emperor Puig was like "strike me down, give into your anger". Hayden was like, "No. It's not the Honda way". Nick has run from Emporer Puig but his suffering continues. He needs to give in to his anger. Darth Dani is going to chopped in half and then Emperor Puig is going to save Nicky from the gravel trap. Darth Hayden and Emperor Puig are going to rule the MotoGP grid. Hayden is going to kill all of the younglings and then Master Rossi will have to go into exile. Hayden will ride around at his own pace while choking any fans who dare to boo.
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Lex, I'm gonna chastise you before one of our resident Hayden-Haters does.

I know most all your post was tongue and cheek but I can bet Migs won't
find it funny. And saying Hayden has more talent except Rossi will keep the 'mindless' at bay, you're good there, but you forgot to also include Stoner; (holt ....) now you run the risk of Pinky-Sybill and his imaginary friends sending you threatening PMs because you didn't include Stoner on that list of riders better than Nicky. You're ...... now.

BTW, Star Wars analogy, are you ....... kidding me?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Apr 27 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IIRC it was charlie cox (AKA "the ....". not because he has one, because he is one)

Ah thanx Al. He sounds like a bit of a drunk to boot.

CHARLIE COX, what an .......!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Apr 27 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think it could fly but dorna would pull out the "safety" card and shoot it down.....if only we could get close racing in motogp without having to meddle with practice times/tech rules/climatic conditions..

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Yeah BigAl your right. it wouldn't work for Pedrosa.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah thanx Al. He sounds like a bit of a drunk to boot.

CHARLIE COX, what an .......!
i missed that. cox your a ...... !!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah thanx Al. He sounds like a bit of a drunk to boot.

CHARLIE COX, what an .......!
YEah ya know that was some .... when he said that about Lorenzo. As soon as he was saying that my thoughts were, where in the .... were you the past 5 years or so? Have you ever seen what Valentino does when he wins or do you run straight for the pub? Yeah I have to admit I always thought Whoregay is a dousche but last year I got respect for the dude after being as broken as he was and STILL going out there making it happen.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 26 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Although you can't be banned - I'm hoping maybe wild dingos will come along and gnaw off the one finger you type with, or mayhaps a gaggle of platypusses will come along and kidnap you and make you marry one of their daughters - or whatever weird .... goes on in your neighborhood.
Or even better, Pinky will be succumb to, or be abducted and torn to pieces by some unlikely and ludicrous mythical creature of Australian folklore...a Bunyip perhaps?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 26 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>People have been saying that about Pedrobot - (and maybe he's taken it to heart) 'cause I'd say at Motegi he gave as well as he took. Say what you will about his personality (or lack thereof) but the guy is no quitter and he's still hungry
I've been very vocal on this forum about the fact that Dani has lost his ability to fight for a race win, and that he's too preoccupied with racing himself and the circuit, as opposed to his immediate competition. I have yet to see him prevail in a one on one battle with Valentino.

One of the main reasons I hold this view is that I avidly followed Pedrosa from his very first appearances in 125gp. It was almost as if it was too easy for him sometimes. He used to hold back behind a pack of half a dozen riders until two thirds race distance and then pull the pin - almost as if he was toying with the field for the fun of it. I used to think that this was also an element was tyre management, it was certainly very capable race management - almost Lawsonesque in fact. I recall very early on in his career Puig chastising him for holding back like this and not breaking away sooner. More importantly when he couldn't break, he wasn't afraid of duking it out with his rivals - hard aggressive riders like Perugini (a constant thorn in his side), Checchinello, Jenkner, Pogialli, Elias, and later Porto, DePuniet, Battaini, DeAngelis and of course those classic sraps with Lorenzo.

What Dani did on Sunday revealed shades of his old self..if he can beat Rossi in a dogfight as opposed to merely through performing a disappearing act at the start of the race, it'll do his confidence the world of good. Dani is at his most dangerous if he gets the holeshot, and with an empty track in front of him is perhaps the most focussed rider out there. Rossi has expressed his admiration for this, and is very aware of the threat he can pose. IMO he adapted his riding style almost instantly to the 990 - where the similarly diminutive Kato seemed to struggle. He has also transformed his wet weather riding from being practically useless, to the blindingly quick. Those initial laps he put in at Sachsenring before the crash at turn one were breathtaking.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he he comes out fighting this year...and actually champions a few carbon fibre clashes, as opposed to simply running away at the front. He was never intimidated, and was impervious to mind games when he rode the strokers, but then that was before he faced the Doctor on a race track, and before the dark side of the force had fully taken it's hold. Like I said, he hovered around Vale like a midge(et) at Motegi on Sunday, and it now it transpires The Doctor was possibly holding back due to concerns about fuel consumption. It would seem that Vale simply raised the bar again, and swatted him away once more. Perhaps as the season progresses and his fitness returns, he won't be so easily repelled.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Apr 27 2009, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah reminds me of Abe ....... and how we first saw him ....... now wouldn't the world have been a sad place without ever seeing him come into MGP
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The Takahashi situation is nothing like Abe. Norick produced one of the most sensational Wild Card rides in history (see Catalunya thread), to secure the mentorship of Kenny Roberts, and was awarded a ride in his team - and later the Rainey run Marlboro Yamaha outfit. it had nothing to do with him being Japanese bar the fact that obviously his wild card ride was secured at Suzuka. He was a very very gifted 500cc two stroke rider, who would have arguably have gone further were it not for ending up on a stagnant satellite YZR500 in Luis Dantin's team from 1999 and the subsequent switch to the diesels with the arrival of the 'new' moto gp class. Takahashi has been groomed as a product of the HRC 'pilot' program and much like Niccolò Canepa is riding on his passport as opposed to his prospect and potential.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah thanx Al. He sounds like a bit of a drunk to boot.

CHARLIE COX, what an .......!
At the risk of resurrecting my repetitive anti BBC rant, this is one of the main reasons that I can't abide the witless and banal banter that accompanies Parish's passionless platitudes. Charlie .... was installed to partner Parish as a WSB commentator, replacing the brilliant and inimitable Leigh Diffey, who returned to Australia to commentate on the V8's. The Beeb clearly hoped through .... having a similar Australian brogue, no one would notice...unfortunately we instantly did. His mindless drivel instantly betrayed the ruse. Auntie then dropped WSB like a stone in order to jump on the Moto GP bandwagon as a way of waging the rating war against ITV (who then had F1), and these two clueless clowns copped the gig. We've been stuck with them ever since. Dorna in their infinite wisdom ceded all live rights to the BBC in a misplaced bid to tap into the mainstream...open the floodgates to this supposed reservoir of viewers, thus jeopardising the Holy Trinity of Moody, Ryder and Mamola. How I laughed when the 'act of God' in Qatar consigned Parish and .... to a flight home due to BBC inflexibility, thus resurrecting the live 'rites' - the gospel according to Eurosport. Like I said at the time, every (desert) cloud has a silver lining, and it was a pleasure to see the Dohar diluvian deluge rain on the BBC's parade. That rain dance idea is fast growing on me Al.

And you guys stateside thought you had it bad with Greg White
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Apr 27 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BigAl I have been thinking the same thing. What did we learn here today boys and girls, that less pre-race track time means more exciting racing.
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Been thinking the same thing. A little chaos factor sure does shuffle the deck.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Apr 27 2009, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>YEah superfanboy ROssi butt lover! LOL. Just messin with ya but seriously. Rossi should have won it by the logic of the person I was responding to. He went backwards and at least Stoner made up for the .... that was hampering him with the brakes. Why is it you feel you have to defend Rossi?

Basically I feel it as an obligation because you usually behave like an a h and then there is that little thing called logic, you were wrong and I don't mind pointing that out: first to second, third to forth are almost the same thing. First to second only slightly better result.
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Except Dovi the fights stoner won were nothing to write home about. The top 3-5 guys are in a different division and can be expected to fly by the rest when things work at above 80%.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Apr 27 2009, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Basically I feel it as an obligation because you usually behave like an a h and then there is that little thing called logic, you were wrong and I don't mind pointing that out: first to second, third to forth are almost the same thing. First to second only slightly better result.
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Except Dovi the fights stoner won were nothing to write home about. The top 3-5 guys are in a different division and can be expected to fly by the rest when things work at above 80%.
LOL dude Rossi should have won but he claimed nothing specific that hampered him in the race. SO we have SToner who said as soon as he parked the bike that the brakes were messed up and chattering. I am just saying if the all powerful Rossi didn't finish first he just didn't want to. SToner fought his way back even after his bike wasn't allowing him to run the times he ususally runs. I am totally logical here cause by all of the accounts of the Rossi faithful if he had won the accolades would of rained down on him from everyone since he seemed to be slow in the race. Really he only turned on the Rossinator when Pedrosa started to claim second. Look the race was at least fun to watch and that is good for all of us no matter what excuses riders have for not finishing first.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BTW, Star Wars analogy, are you ....... kidding me?

If I'm going to write a work of fiction for entertainment purposes, I might as well borrow from the most successful franchise ever.
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I can't believe some of you guys!

It was a f'ing racing incident, get the f' over it! It's not like Hayden never did something like this either. I seem to remember a WSBK Laguna Seca 2002, Haga was very fast and was having an excellent upmarsh through the field, but a certain Hayden wanting to please the crowd thought it would be nice to torpedo himself into Haga in the final corner.
I was a bit pissed aswell but i got over it because it was a damn racing incident, it happens! And i certainly didn't go around and say such disgusting things like death to Hayden!

And about the guys saying Takahashi not knowing how to ride and not deserving to ride a Motogp ride, please shut up.
If you watched anything other than Motogp you'd notice that Takahashi came in 5th in the 250 championship on the far inferior Scott Honda, a very respectable performance.
Certainly more impressive than Hayden managed to do for the past 2 years on his factory Honda, him being even slower than one of the customer Honda's.

I like Hayden and hope he'll get some nice result this season, but i'd be a nice slap in the face to all you Hayden buttmonkeys if Takahashi ends up better than Hayden next race.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 27 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If I'm going to write a work of fiction for entertainment purposes, I might as well borrow from the most successful franchise ever.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 13 2009, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>must write a homoerotic novella about a sexual encounter with Pinky..........and one of his Asian hookers.

...you already outlined the basis of the plot, how's the first draft progressing?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Apr 27 2009, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Except Dovi the fights stoner won were nothing to write home about. The top 3-5 guys are in a different division and can be expected to fly by the rest when things work at above 80%.

When a rider is working his way around a mechanical issue that is hampering his ride - gaining positions is #1. Whether he sliced and diced or traded paint is immaterial. It's all about strategy and winning points. Coming from the back with dodgy brake pads is (for my money) more impressive than falling back from a decent lead and being beaten by one's team mate (just past his rookie season) as a result of less than brilliant strategy with tire conservation and fuel usage. If Rossi looked pissed at the post race interviews - my guess is that he was angry with himself for being too overconfident - as opposed to being pissed at Lorenzo.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Apr 27 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LOL dude Rossi should have won but he claimed nothing specific that hampered him in the race. SO we have SToner who said as soon as he parked the bike that the brakes were messed up and chattering. I am just saying if the all powerful Rossi didn't finish first he just didn't want to. SToner fought his way back even after his bike wasn't allowing him to run the times he ususally runs. I am totally logical here cause by all of the accounts of the Rossi faithful if he had won the accolades would of rained down on him from everyone since he seemed to be slow in the race. Really he only turned on the Rossinator when Pedrosa started to claim second. Look the race was at least fun to watch and that is good for all of us no matter what excuses riders have for not finishing first.
If rossi finished second to stoner i doubt you would be saying this. Are you saying Lorenzo isn't as good ?
Rossi finished second because he wasn't as quick as lorenzo and stoner finished 4th because he wasn't as quick as the top 3 ! There doesn't have to be something wrong, You cant win them all ! Beside from what ive read here if rossi did say he had a problem he would have been branded a whinger. Stoner always has a "problem " win or loose !
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (heyhuub @ Apr 27 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like Hayden and hope he'll get some nice result this season, but i'd be a nice slap in the face to all you Hayden buttmonkeys if Takahashi ends up better than Hayden next race.

Talk about your work of fiction!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 27 2009, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talk about your work of fiction!

Yeah well it's not like Hayden did allot better in Qatar now did he?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (speedfreak @ Apr 27 2009, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If rossi finished second to stoner i doubt you would be saying this. Are you saying Lorenzo isn't as good ?
Rossi finished second because he wasn't as quick as lorenzo and stoner finished 4th because he wasn't as quick as the top 3 ! There doesn't have to be something wrong, You cant win them all ! Beside from what ive read here if rossi did say he had a problem he would have been branded a whinger. Stoner always has a "problem " win or loose !

Really? Were you watching the race with the sound off? In the last seven or eight laps (once his brake pads settled in) Stoner was absolutely matching Rossi and Lorenzo's laptimes. Another five laps he'd have caught and passed them.
 

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