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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ganz @ Apr 27 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>go to motogp.com and study the times of last five laps, fanboy

Vale.................Stoner
Lap 12 1'48.590 / 1'48.834
Lap 13 1'49.044/ 1'48.851
Lap 14 1'48.993/ 1'49.234
Lap 15 1'49.520/ 1'49.112
Lap 16 1'49.351/ 1'49.273
Lap 17 1'49.065/ 1'48.883

Study them yourself bro. Stoner while fighting crosstown traffic
was faster on several laps than Vale up at the front - which
puts to rest Speedfreak's contention that Stoner "wasn't as
quick as the front three." Thanks for the link!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 28 2009, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Today:



Ah, it worked! Pinky took the bate!
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I got under Pinky's <strike>skin</strike> scales! Allow me to explain:

I've continue to receive a few PMs from Pinky but not for a few days now, this is why I new he would come out with another round of hate once I called him out above. I really don't see why he choses to use aliases since his Pinky handle comes out with the usual anyway. When I wrote this above I knew it would be too much for Pinky to bare. How did I know, well it was when I changed my signature last week that he came out full bore and sending me PMs of ..... It boiled his blood that I was exposing him and his aliases. Ah, but when Ben said he thought it was 'alphabet' (CVCSAW) then the PMs really started to come in knowing he could with impunity. After-all, he managed to fool those on his trail. Its so obvious who he is but still some chose to stick their heads in the sand. For the record, I have never called for this demented human being to be BANNED, and will not today either--I say this in a proactive response to the inevitable dig of suggesting that the mod policy only suit when convenient. I say let him and his aliases stay on, if anything its entertaining to see the seasoned members bite. Ah but for the new member, well they are unsuspected victims, hence my signature. But of course, it has proven to aggrevate Pinky to no end. And for this I am pleased!

Anyway, again NOT for the mods or Ben (which the IP finder continues to be fooled regardless; which begs for actual brain power to figure out the mystery, which isn't that mysterious), and for the benefit of those unsuspecting new members that may want to exchange with Pinky. Here is his latest PM. (BTW, most of his PM, which I have not posted, are mocking of how he has fooled Ben and the mods). But again, for the benefit of any interested member, here is a PM I got from Pinky after the above quote: (enjoy)



Anybody still want to exchange posts with Pinky?


(Geez, your theme and writing style is a dead give away Pinks, no need for a fancy IP search.)


lol keep on tryping crap. i just laugh. when i have never ever pm'd u and u keep on going about it, then i must of really have gotten under your skin havnet i..

lol i am just lol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Apr 27 2009, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>lol keep on tryping crap. i just laugh. when i have never ever pm'd u and u keep on going about it, then i must of really have gotten under your skin havnet i..

lol i am just lol

Pinky, no one believes you.

Tell me, who is this Crafar_Doni98 guy supposed to be??
Do you expect us to believe that 'some random dude' is going to sign up to PS and, without even making a single post, start sending ugly, harassing e-mails to Jumkie? Right out of the ....... blue? Well, I don't believe it for a second. The twisted syntax, poor grammar and - most of all - the obsessive hate give you away.

Who and what you are is obvious. Like all good psychopaths I've known, you deeply hate those who have what you know is missing in your own life. That's why you've picked up on the Nicky bashing. He is, by most all accounts, a decent, friendly, hard working fellow. He's got a supportive family and is respected by his peers. He has worked hard and has made himself into everything you are not.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 28 2009, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Vale.................Stoner
Lap 12 1'48.590 / 1'48.834
Lap 13 1'49.044/ 1'48.851
Lap 14 1'48.993/ 1'49.234
Lap 15 1'49.520/ 1'49.112
Lap 16 1'49.351/ 1'49.273
Lap 17 1'49.065/ 1'48.883

Study them yourself bro. Stoner while fighting crosstown traffic
was faster on several laps than Vale up at the front - which
puts to rest Speedfreak's contention that Stoner "wasn't as
quick as the front three." Thanks for the link!
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Are you kidding me?! Well done to Stoner for this effort, but these are not last 5 laps, which I told you to look at, but a part of race when Rossi slowed down significantly... Last 5 laps prove that Stoner was never going to catch Rossi, as you stated.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Today:



Ah, it worked! Pinky took the bate!
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I got under Pinky's <strike>skin</strike> scales! Allow me to explain:

I've continue to receive a few PMs from Pinky but not for a few days now, this is why I new he would come out with another round of hate once I called him out above. I really don't see why he choses to use aliases since his Pinky handle comes out with the usual anyway. When I wrote this above I knew it would be too much for Pinky to bare. How did I know, well it was when I changed my signature last week that he came out full bore and sending me PMs of ..... It boiled his blood that I was exposing him and his aliases. Ah, but when Ben said he thought it was 'alphabet' (CVCSAW) then the PMs really started to come in knowing he could with impunity. After-all, he managed to fool those on his trail. Its so obvious who he is but still some chose to stick their heads in the sand. For the record, I have never called for this demented human being to be BANNED, and will not today either--I say this in a proactive response to the inevitable dig of suggesting that the mod policy only suit when convenient. I say let him and his aliases stay on, if anything its entertaining to see the seasoned members bite. Ah but for the new member, well they are unsuspected victims, hence my signature. But of course, it has proven to aggrevate Pinky to no end. And for this I am pleased!

Anyway, again NOT for the mods or Ben (which the IP finder continues to be fooled regardless; which begs for actual brain power to figure out the mystery, which isn't that mysterious), and for the benefit of those unsuspecting new members that may want to exchange with Pinky. Here is his latest PM. (BTW, most of his PM, which I have not posted, are mocking of how he has fooled Ben and the mods). But again, for the benefit of any interested member, here is a PM I got from Pinky after the above quote: (enjoy)



Anybody still want to exchange posts with Pinky?


(Geez, your theme and writing style is a dead give away Pinks, no need for a fancy IP search.)
ah dont worry about it mate. i get them all the time from bm and bunnyip, sad fuckers
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 28 2009, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Vale.................Stoner
Lap 12 1'48.590 / 1'48.834
Lap 13 1'49.044/ 1'48.851
Lap 14 1'48.993/ 1'49.234
Lap 15 1'49.520/ 1'49.112
Lap 16 1'49.351/ 1'49.273
Lap 17 1'49.065/ 1'48.883

Study them yourself bro. Stoner while fighting crosstown traffic
was faster on several laps than Vale up at the front - which
puts to rest Speedfreak's contention that Stoner "wasn't as
quick as the front three." Thanks for the link!
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Stoner was slower over the race distance than everyone who finished ahead of him (the front 3).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Apr 28 2009, 02:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Vale.................Stoner
Lap 12 1'48.590 / 1'48.834
Lap 13 1'49.044/ 1'48.851
Lap 14 1'48.993/ 1'49.234
Lap 15 1'49.520/ 1'49.112
Lap 16 1'49.351/ 1'49.273
Lap 17 1'49.065/ 1'48.883

Study them yourself bro. Stoner while fighting crosstown traffic
was faster on several laps than Vale up at the front - which
puts to rest Speedfreak's contention that Stoner "wasn't as
quick as the front three." Thanks for the link!
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Times for last five laps:
Rossi vs Stoner
lap 20 1'48.580 1'48.635
lap 21 1'48.790 1'48.828
lap 22 1'48.587 1'49.034
lap 23 1'48.563 1'48.963
lap 24 1'48.945 1'49.201

I must admit you did well to find the period where rossi was slow for whatever reason.
 
I didn't rate Casey as catching the two Yamahas (what are we going to do about Yamaha domination!)

I am however interested to put the last 10 laps or so of Casey against Dani, because I felt that Casey would have caught him given a few more laps. The race didn't have a few more laps but I like hypotheticals.

But I'm really lazy and I'm off to read the grinch (5 year old) a bedtime story.

Can one of you actuarial geniuses run that one up...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 27 2009, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Heyduum, first of all, welcome to the forum, hopefully you won’t be a newboot-a-week we get around here only to go back into oblivion next week. Rack up a few posts. Well despite your tired old entrance, you seem like a fellow that we can have a few fruitful exchanges.

Ok, I feel compelled to let you know the guy you quoted is Curve, and I can assure you it was witty sarcasm (which you missed, but understandably). Curve is a puppy with a pit-bull sense of humor. This is why nobody responded to it because mostly everybody is a regular. Actually, he usually responds with a hilarious but effective picture to make his point. Which you will undoubtedly get for your subpar albeit newbie post.

Anyway, as far as your weak defense of Takacrashi in which you chose the lame tactic of shitting on Hayden to somehow tell us its ‘just a racing incident’, reveals more about your understanding of the sport than the actual incident itself. Ah, so you were at Laguna in 02, did you then craw in a cave after that? Just wondering since you cite Hayden on the 800 Honda, again revealing what you know about its development and the series as a whole. It’s an old subject and it might do you some good to search out a few threads (there are plenty) regarding this issue. Notwithstanding, the fact that you mentioned it to pad your feeble defense already tells me where you stand.

Ok, I will agree with you that most all crashes are "racing incidents" if you agree with me that not all "racing incidents" are created equal. This was a bonehead mistake by an over-his-head rookie that doesn't belong in the class. Yes, you disagree, right? Ok, well my contention is he didn't belong in the class in the first place. (Side note, I was already done with this subject until you appeared, but .... it, I have some time). You want to cite that he came 5th in 250's last year as your premise that he belongs, yeah; well he came 11th the year before that, and most all years it was in the double digits. BTW, that 5th classification was with zero wins, zero poles, zero fastest laps, and his entire feeder series win total for 250s is 2 and that was three years ago. He's a token in the series. If you look at the grid, most all of them are made up of champs or runners up. Yuuki made the top 5 once! It’s a very uncharacteristic record for a person to be promoted to MotoGP. Can he ride? Yes. But so can a few top riders in national series and world series, and they are not being offered seats in MotoGP. Its possible he may pan out, but it seems for now he will be a danger to other riders. I hope not. And of course, with this bonehead torpedo, it cast a light and begs the question: Hey, how did this guy even get a seat?

But you know what, I'm not even that bothered about the “racing incident”; it was his ...... reaction to the incident that made me stand up and notice. Take a look at the video again. He slams into Hayden, and his first reaction and body language was a child like pouting of losing his opportunity to play with his toys. Look at it again, check out his youngster reaction of hands on his head, while in the foreground, Hayden is lying on his back, looking like he's convulsing in pain. He took a while to get up and Yuuki doesn't so much as look at the guy. I say .... your own stupid opportunity and run to check on the guy you might have just paralyzed.

Ah, but then read his comments when they asked him about the crash. Yuuki has no explanation; he doesn't know what happened, amazing! And then he turns to confirming what his body language said at the crash site, he was disappointed that he wouldn't be able to put in laps. WTF. Dude, all that should be coming out of his mouth is what a ....... bone head move it was and how he has tirelessly apologized, end of comment. Why pick that first interview to whine about not having the opportunity to put in more laps? No ...., since it was him who took himself out and another rider in the process. Now I've seen Yuuki make an attempt to speak English, but go to his interviews, it seems he has forgotten what little he knew.

As far as not making a big deal if it was Canepa. Fail, again. Go on to an Italian forum, when one of there own is as much grazed, much less shelled, they are way pissed off calling for torture of the guy and his kids.

How many posts do you plan to make before you forget your password?

I am not defending the move by Takahashi, i agree that it was a stupid overzaulous move. I am however defending him as a rider.

About their reactions at the scene, now you're just being a sour Hayden fan. How many times have after a collision between 2 riders have you seen them apollogizing at the scene? Not a lot if my memory serves me right and on top of that, Hayden clearly didn't seem to want any apologie at that moment. Now i don't have any access to post-race interviews so i can't really gudge about that, but i agree TAkahashi ows Hayden a apolagie and maybe he even apolagized, just not in some post race interview.

About Takakhasi "belonging" in the Motogp, he as proven to be a quick but also very consistent rider. In 2007 he finished 11th because he missed a few races because of injury, in 2006 he finished 6th with 2 wins and consistently finishing in the top 5 and 2005 was his rookie season with most finishes well in the top 10. On top of that, from the 5 wildcards he had before that, he retired 1 time and had a 5th, 4th and 2 3rd finishes , again a pretty respectable result.
In his last 3 seasons of 250 he was second fastest Honda rider next to Dovizioso, so is it really that hard to see why Honda wanted him on a Honda in the Motogp?
And maybe after a dissapointing start he won't make any progressionat all , but he could just as well make some nice top 10 finishes this season, we'll just have to wait and see. Same goes for Hayden for that matter.

But is see no reason at all why Takahashi and his riding is being burned down already on this forum.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (heyhuub @ Apr 28 2009, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But is see no reason at all why Takahashi and his riding is being burned down already on this forum.

This is why!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Apr 28 2009, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pinky, no one believes you.

Tell me, who is this Crafar_Doni98 guy supposed to be??
Do you expect us to believe that 'some random dude' is going to sign up to PS and, without even making a single post, start sending ugly, harassing e-mails to Jumkie? Right out of the ....... blue? Well, I don't believe it for a second. The twisted syntax, poor grammar and - most of all - the obsessive hate give you away.

Who and what you are is obvious. Like all good psychopaths I've known, you deeply hate those who have what you know is missing in your own life. That's why you've picked up on the Nicky bashing. He is, by most all accounts, a decent, friendly, hard working fellow. He's got a supportive family and is respected by his peers. He has worked hard and has made himself into everything you are not.

not going to argue again if it is me or not. end of day i dont give a .... coz the mods know it isnt me so i got nothing to worry about.

and heres a tip for you guys if u receive abusive pm's... just ignore it, please just get over it, laugh it off, whatever......, and really there is no need to clog up a a motegi thread with your personal issues.....
 
back on topic, i do beleive stoner had problems at the start, to be overtaken by melandri and go backwards like he did, well thats not normal for the pace he has shown all weekend, wet or dry.

even with the problems had he been closer he prob would of been able to at least put more pressure on rossi and horhey. but i do beleive horhey had alot more in reserve if he needed to push.

end of day i think big winner was horhey and dani.

stoner would of been content with his speed in the race given the problems.. and also in the practice sessions he could easily of been ontop in both sessions if not for pulling out in the last lap on one session, and not even going out for a last minute charge on another session.


biggest loser probably rossi. firstly coz he was beaten by his team-mate and now twice being beaten quite comfortably by the winner.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 28 2009, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner was slower over the race distance than everyone who finished ahead of him (the front 3).

Not .... sherlock. Isn't that how you win? Being faster than your opponent?

Takahasi is one of the better Japanese riders to cycle through Grand Prix racing in quite some time. But saying that, he is still much out of his depth on the 800cc bike. 5th, with 3 podiums in 250cc's last year is not much grounds to be rewarded with a premier class ride. 7 years with 2 wins and 7 podiums in one class just proves he's just an average 250 rider.
 
I think the terms "faster" and "quicker" are not properly defined. In Canada we had the "fastest man in the world" in one Olympics. Well he wasn't the fastest no one ever said what his top speed was (35kph???) but he was undoubtedly the quickest...unfortunately for only one day until the piss test lit up the lab without the lights on
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. I even heard Nick H. on MotoGP making the same mistake saying, "Stoner just set the fastest lap, oh no! now Dani set the fastest lap..." which is a meaningless statement. Of course it would be the quickest lap because it is soley a timed event with units in seconds. Fastest implies a rate like kph or mph and doesn't mean necessarily you will be quickest (although it's a good start). Not making this distinction clear in your argument will have you roasting on the pit around here even though you meant well and in your own way were probably right. We're nitpickers you see?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Apr 28 2009, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think the terms "faster" and "quicker" are not properly defined. In Canada we had the "fastest man in the world" in one Olympics. Well he wasn't the fastest no one ever said what his top speed was (35kph???) but he was undoubtedly the quickest...unfortunately for only one day until the piss test lit up the lab without the lights on
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. I even heard Nick H. on MotoGP making the same mistake saying, "Stoner just set the fastest lap, oh no! now Dani set the fastest lap..." which is a meaningless statement. Of course it would be the quickest lap because it is soley a timed event with units in seconds. Fastest implies a rate like kph or mph and doesn't mean necessarily you will be quickest (although it's a good start). Not making this distinction clear in your argument will have you roasting on the pit around here even though you meant well and in your own way were probably right. We're nitpickers you see?

I think the two words are one in the same. Who's the quickest to the S/F for a whole race? Who's the fastest to the S/F for a whole race? Means the same thing. You making it sound more difficult that what it is.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 28 2009, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ah dont worry about it mate. i get them all the time from bm .....


If you mean you get them from BarryMachine .... you are not stating the truth, as I have never sent you a PM.

Why would I?

What was the topic Rog.?

Show us the PM if you do mean you have ever received one from me.

I'm sure the site admin. could back you if I ever have Rog. So I ask them to confirm any PM I sent Rog.

I know I refused to answer your PM's to me as they are churlish.

At least Pinky seems honest
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Apr 28 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think the two words are one in the same. Who's the quickest to the S/F for a whole race? Who's the fastest to the S/F for a whole race? Means the same thing. You making it sound more difficult that what it is.

Well it only helps you to describe things as they actually physically happened. Otherwise yes it is a meaningless distinction.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ganz @ Apr 28 2009, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Are you kidding me?! Well done to Stoner for this effort, but these are not last 5 laps, which I told you to look at, but a part of race when Rossi slowed down significantly... Last 5 laps prove that Stoner was never going to catch Rossi, as you stated.

My original post was in reply to Speedfreak who said Stoner wasn't as quick as the top three - when in fact in spite of fighting traffic to play catch-up he was doing comparable lap times. Speedfreak made it sound as if Stoner was consistently a second or two slower than the race leaders - which is patently untrue. As to whether he'd have in fact caught up with them (if as per my original post with 5 laps added) - well that was just high-spirited speculation - so why don't we leave it at that?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (heyhuub @ Apr 28 2009, 04:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But is see no reason at all why Takahashi and his riding is being burned down already on this forum.
Don't take it to heart Huub, it just the way rookies are baptized. Anyway, fair exchange even though we disgree. Stick around. We always need more good members. God knows we have the fruit cakes.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (heyhuub @ Apr 28 2009, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But is see no reason at all why Takahashi and his riding is being burned down already on this forum.

Were you foolish enough to speak on behalf of Pedrosa in 2006?

Anyone who was defending Pedrosa at the end of 2006 was hanged by the lynch mob. Discretion is the better part of valor my friend. Delete your post and get out of our way.
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