Spies shows his class

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 9 2010, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and breathe.....


- in the whinge & non-lactic fart fumes

The way he works reminds me of Rossi. Difficult to read that while he was on a SBK as the setup is much simpler but for him to take that much time out in the span of 31 laps in very, very impressive. Schwantz might be right.

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Qatar looms lets see what he's got,will be good to get in the top 6 to start

I've got big balls
I've got big balls
And they're such big balls
Dirty big balls
And he's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But we've got the biggest balls of them all

And I'm just itching to tell you about them
Oh we had such wonderful fun
Seafood cocktail, crabs, crayfish...

Ball sucker

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 9 2010, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>8844:db2624_big_balls.jpg]
Qatar looms lets see what he's got,will be good to get in the top 6 to start

I've got big balls
I've got big balls
And they're such big balls
Dirty big balls
And he's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But we've got the biggest balls of them all

And I'm just itching to tell you about them
Oh we had such wonderful fun
Seafood cocktail, crabs, crayfish...

Ball sucker

Eloquent stuff Pidge. Most informative Top 6 for Ben no probs

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 9 2010, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The way he works reminds me of Rossi. Difficult to read that while he was on a SBK as the setup is much simpler but for him to take that much time out in the span of 31 laps in very, very impressive. Schwantz might be right.

I have noticed the same Austin. Ben dose not make many mistakes, and knows not to show all of his cards at once.

Like him or not credit is due.

Actually TP, I'm in full support of Gary McCoy in Motogp, Troy Corser, ChrisV, Westie and all of the other Aussies out there on the world stage. And I still believe Troy Bayliss and Mick Doohan are in the top three Motorcycle racers ever to walk the planet. Jerry Burgess is the greatest Motorcycle Racing Engineer the world has ever seen.

So go and .... yourself with your Stoner Dribble, CS has only proven to be one of the worst PR sports persons Australia has ever produced, right up there with 'The POO'.

Regardless of actual achievements which are of course very important and need to be respected, IMO our highly paid sports representatives need to give us more to support other than just being Australian, especially with the great Australians that have come before in Motorcycle racing. I'm sure most would agree that CS only has riding ability in common with our greats, the rest leaves 'much' to be desired.

And yes 'Barry The Great', CS does do it 800cc Motogp style-Boring! I'm hoping for more superbike like action. Ben certainly knows how to race in a dogfight, just ask Miladin or Haga and certainly Haslam after WSBK Assen 09. And he doesn't ..... and winge if he losses one.

It is fair to say that of 'The aliens' only Jorge has reacted well to being in, and losing, a serious dogfight with VR, Pedders doesn't like it and we all know how CS feels.

I am also Farcking sick and tired of the Stoner Bopping Monkeys here trying to turn every thread into a Stoner fest! This is about BEN SPIES, who IMO has already achieved more than CS with a much better attitude, Spies deserves my support and respect, REGARDLESS OF WHERE HE IS FROM!!!

What is all too evident talpa, is that your opinion of casey is clouding your judgement and whether it is a conscious or unconscious decision, it would appear that you see CS as a threat to your dear Vale, and that your fantasy scenarios exclude him. That is sad and more evidence that you appear not to be a true motogp fan, but , as I have posted previously appear to be following the sport only for the vicarious pleasure of being rossi and beating allcomers with ease(Being a classical Rossibopper) . Even if you don,t like Casey like many others, it would be rather nice if you could admit to his talents and seek equal pleasure in him dicing with valentino, jorge and ben. I,m sure Babel would concur with this scenario, but it seems beyond yourself and Mudcrab to give credit to stoner for anything at all.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Feb 9 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is all too evident talpa, is that your opinion of casey is clouding your judgement and whether it is a conscious or unconscious decision, it would appear that you see CS as a threat to your dear Vale, and that your fantasy scenarios exclude him. That is sad and more evidence that you appear not to be a true motogp fan, but , as I have posted previously appear to be following the sport only for the vicarious pleasure of being rossi and beating allcomers with ease(Being a classical Rossibopper) . Even if you don,t like Casey like many others, it would be rather nice if you could admit to his talents and seek equal pleasure in him dicing with valentino, jorge and ben. I,m sure Babel would concur with this scenario, but it seems beyond yourself and Mudcrab to give credit to stoner for anything at all.


Hey I have given credit to that little .... plenty of times! So let me get this straight, because I am a motogp fan I have to like Casey?? So does that mean if I was a fan of public speaking, I have to like Hittler?

I am beginning to think his fans are the reason I can't stand him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 9 2010, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So go and .... yourself with your Stoner Dribble, CS has only proven to be one of the worst PR sports persons Australia has ever produced, right up there with 'The POO'.

Call me crazy but I actually find Stoner's PR a breathe of fresh air. I feel like he is trying to truthfully answer questions in the best way possible. It may not come out like an editorial of a newspaper, but it is genuine IMO. It's not perfect but he isn't supposed to be a professional politician. I find it much more entertaining than the next rider that spits out the same canned response to all the same questions. Sometimes I feel like even the smooth Hayden is dancing around the question and he gives neutral responses. Edwards on the other hand, when you catch him in the right moment, will give you one of the best interviews.

Maybe it's a language barrier and non-english riders learned english from watching their heros give their canned response On the other hand, Rossi is a showman and gives pretty good interviews too although, I'm not sure I believe everything that comes out of his mouth, he's more like the smooth politician that can captivate an audience

" This is about BEN SPIES, who IMO has already achieved more than CS".

Stoner has won the big one. Ben may never. This ain't equality. I'm a big fan of Ben, who isn't? But facts are facts whether they like them down under or not.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Feb 9 2010, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey I have given credit to that little .... plenty of times! So let me get this straight, because I am a motogp fan I have to like Casey?? So does that mean if I was a fan of public speaking, I have to like Hittler?

I am beginning to think his fans are the reason I can't stand him.
I think Bunyip's point was that if you were a purist fan of motorcycle racing then you could not help but be impressed by Stoner regardless of your views on his personality. You do not have to like him, but rather his skills as a rider and the obvious talent he brings to a race weekend. Apart from anything else, Rossi's wins in Assen 07 and Laguna 08 would not have been so memorable or impressive if Stoner had not been in the mix

As a racing fan I certainly don't hate any of the contenders. I have had my favourites throughout the years (Rossi, Doohan, Schwantz), but the reason I watch is to see racing between incredibly talented guys with different riding styles. I was a fan of Stoner in 250s, but was not so keen on Lorenzo's land. Both have matured in the top class and the level of skill there is currently pretty much unprecendented with VR, CS, JL, DP and now very possibly Spies. To not be impressed by any of these guys on track due to the fact that you don't like their personality or off-track behaviour seems bizarre to me.

As I said, we are in unusual times with so many riders capable of genuinely challenging to be WC - look at history - so enjoy it whilst you can.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 9 2010, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I took it to mean what is more likely to be the case .....

Yeah those three will be going at it "superbike style", meanwhile Stoner is way out front doing it Motogp style


way out front like the past two years hu ....... troll

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 9 2010, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Bunyip's point was that if you were a purist fan of motorcycle racing then you could not help but be impressed by Stoner regardless of your views on his personality. You do not have to like him, but rather his skills as a rider and the obvious talent he brings to a race weekend. Apart from anything else, Rossi's wins in Assen 07 and Laguna 08 would not have been so memorable or impressive if Stoner had not been in the mix
And that I do and have said before that I do. Rivalries are fun. It would be as fun without him, and on the flipside the nectar wouldn't be so sweet without Rossi. buntit and the others like him feel and do the same to rossi. man did that make me sound like a bopper.

GO BEN!!

At least when his yam crosses the line first (as I'm sure it will in time) it won't be because he's a cheat like rossi...

This was a fun thread for 15 to 20-odd posts. Thanks for turning this into another pissing match, guys. Not enough that the rest of the forum has nothing else going on but moaning about Casey and Valentino? There are other riders out there, some of us actually care to debate those riders.

One thing is for sure when you look at some of the posts on here:

He has hardly even started and he has already thrown a lot into the mix ........ gotta be a good thing for MGP, I must admit if one was to go on mentallity alone (from what I've seen/heard ) I'd put him in the Rossi and Stoner ward. I don't see him as a Pedrosa or Lorenzo.

I'm just wary of history on SBK riders coming to MGP, but lets face it another Stoner or Rossi in the mix will be a good thing.

So I can't wait to see how he goes.

I just hope that if things don't work out he doesn't get the public treatment that JT got. But thats gotta be the hard bit for guys coming in with a lot of expectation.

Go Tex!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Feb 10 2010, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is all too evident talpa, is that your opinion of casey is clouding your judgement and whether it is a conscious or unconscious decision, it would appear that you see CS as a threat to your dear Vale, and that your fantasy scenarios exclude him. That is sad and more evidence that you appear not to be a true motogp fan, but , as I have posted previously appear to be following the sport only for the vicarious pleasure of being rossi and beating allcomers with ease(Being a classical Rossibopper) . Even if you don,t like Casey like many others, it would be rather nice if you could admit to his talents and seek equal pleasure in him dicing with valentino, jorge and ben. I,m sure Babel would concur with this scenario, but it seems beyond yourself and Mudcrab to give credit to stoner for anything at all.

So let me get this straight, I have to like Stoner Firstly because he is Australian and secondly because if I don't then I can't be a fan of Motogp??

HAHAHAHAHAHA.......another pile of crap from Bunny. If you want to support Spoilt Brats who often show signs of bad sportsmanship, with a reputation for treating their team with disdain, then that's your choice.......not mine.

Did I not say that his Riding Skill was up there with Mick Doohan and Troy Bayliss-isn't that enough for you, is there any greater complement? For me though this is where the comparison ends, he isn't half the sportsman or 'racer' of these two legends, yet.

Do we need to suck his .... like you and others........once again you have proven that the only ones living in a deluded haze are the Stoner Boppers. I was watching, and loving Motogp before CS was Born!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Feb 9 2010, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The way he works reminds me of Rossi. Difficult to read that while he was on a SBK as the setup is much simpler but for him to take that much time out in the span of 31 laps in very, very impressive. Schwantz might be right.

I saw the video interview of Schwantz on the speedtv website, and the interviewer was virtually begging KS to back Spies for a win in 2010. I think Schwantz said "yes he can win" out of sympathy to the interviewer.

I think the odds are high that Spies wont win in 2010. I think a lot of misadventures to the aliens would be necessary for that to occur. Not to say that spies is not an incredible talent.; just that , as he says, the next step up to the top 4 level is bigger than most of us can imagine. Toseland fizzled out after a bright beginning. I think spies is better than that, but is he as good as he needs to be?? Who knows. It will all unfold before us this year. Spies will add to the spectacle this year, and even if he doesn,t podium, I, for one, am very glad that he is there. It pains me to say it, but I suspect he will do better than Bayliss in the long run.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Feb 9 2010, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I saw the video interview of Schwantz on the speedtv website, and the interviewer was virtually begging KS to back Spies for a win in 2010. I think Schwantz said "yes he can win" out of sympathy to the interviewer.

I think the odds are high that Spies wont win in 2010. I think a lot of misadventures to the aliens would be necessary for that to occur. Not to say that spies is not an incredible talent.; just that , as he says, the next step up to the top 4 level is bigger than most of us can imagine. Toseland fizzled out after a bright beginning. I think spies is better than that, but is he as good as he needs to be?? Who knows. It will all unfold before us this year. Spies will add to the spectacle this year, and even if he doesn,t podium, I, for one, am very glad that he is there. It pains me to say it, but I suspect he will do better than Bayliss in the long run.

Ben's got it. He earned 3 consecutive AMA superbike titles by beating the greatest AMA SBK champion of all time. He broke the pole record, won 14 races, and won the WSBK title in his maiden season. He won his WSBK title on a bike he'd never ridden before (it's maiden season), on tires he'd never ridden before, and at tracks he had never seen before.

He's like Rossi in regards to his ability to find extra time on the brakes, and he is pretty good at avoiding injury (knock on wood). Like Rossi, Ben has only one problem, imo---Casey Stoner.

Casey's raw speed makes him a very difficult adversary for the race strategists.

I'm not saying Casey doesn't have race craft or equal talent b/c clearly he does, I'm just saying, when Casey is in the zone, other riders can't think their way past him. They have to cut corners or hope he falls.