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Silverstone Race Discussion (Spoiler Alert! You All)

What a witty, insightful reply.



What's wrong with wishing for closer racing ?



If you could interperate what was written.....( I'd hate to have you interperate a W/Shop manual on your current form)..........the clowns don't do much for me either.............I can tolerate it when everything is put into perspective though.



And If you don't like the clowns,.......why not do as I do, and change the chanel/turn off the TV after they cross the finish line ?



Pretty simple really.





over to you...........
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If you want closer "racing" hire two clowns, hire five if need be till you are sated.
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I've made it quite clear that I am happy to watch a rider ride well, with or without clowns. Though the clowns can just be a distraction
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I do leave the room for the "clown shows"





The funny thing is that for all the bopper sooking about things being boring, and some "threatening" ( no great loss there
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so I don't get the intention of their spatty ) to take their bat and ball and go play with the WSBK crowd ......



http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201106133999/TV-bene-la-MotoGP.-Moto2-non-sfonda.html
 
Simoncelli is more sensational both in his behavior and his appearance - therefore he is easy to sell to the unwashed masses.

He's the Amy Winehouse of MGP and there's nothing the news-hungry phillistines love more than a good train wreck. That

he is a former 250 champ of course doesn't hurt. Dovi is too much the unremarkable nice guy, and in fairness, doesn't

seem to quite have the fire in the belly that Simoncelli has.







+1

Dovi needs to take some risks and push the bike more cause it looks like sic has more raw speed. I'm sure Sic will come down, just like when Stoner and Lorenzo Started their Motogp campaign they too crashed a lot, now look at them now.
 
If you want closer "racing" hire two clowns, hire five if need be till you are sated.
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I've made it quite clear that I am happy to watch a rider ride well, with or without clowns. Though the clowns can just be a distraction
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I do leave the room for the "clown shows"





The funny thing is that for all the bopper sooking about things being boring, and some "threatening" ( no great loss there
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so I don't get the intention of their spatty ) to take their bat and ball and go play with the WSBK crowd ......



http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201106133999/TV-bene-la-MotoGP.-Moto2-non-sfonda.html

+1.....The clowns do nothing for me............all I meant, was, (as in the previous post) they make it an easy sell to the "unwashed" masses.....or whatever we may call them.



That, to me, sucks..........in as much as it keeps money coming into Moto, and therefore prolongs it's existence.



......a double edged sword, so to speak.



My only wish, is like the days of the early nineties ( no.....I don't want it to go back to then), or like a 125 race....that we get to watch that edge of the chair, holding of breath type racing where it comes down to the last couple of laps, or the last corner.



You know, as I do, that sometimes it's a bit of a drag to wait all week ( or whatever) to sit up till the late/early hours to watch a race, that turns out to be a 20-odd lap extension of Qualifying.



Sure, it's magnificent to watch something like Stoners performance at Silverstone, but to see someone right there with him....preferably on another make of machine...........wow !!



There are riders out there who could go with him.......maybe not better, or able to beat him......that's a moot point. The reason everyone liked the Schwantz / Rainey era was...........two different bikes........and you never knew who would win..........sure......probably Rainey........but you never knew.



Now ?



And I don't mean any disprespect to Stoners ride........undoubtably the difference with Honda winning.



But it's honda 1,2,3.........I like to think if someone else got there machine up to speed, or the rules could somehow balance it out.....well, Stoner would probably be where he is still, but I really believe that the Spies, Lorenzo's ect would be way in front of the Dovi's, Simo's ect.



It's like Stoner on the Duck when Lorenzo was winning.........is Lorenzo that much better ?.........I don't belive so...........Would have been great to watch Stoner on a competetive machine against him.

If we /they could get all the bikes relatively close in performance ( a dream, I know), then we may get to see that type of racing again.





Lets face it, some riders are a cut above the rest..........but none of them are mugs ( that's what we on the sidelines are, who couldn't match the pace of the lowliest of them out there) and too often, the racing sucks because unless you are on the right make of bike that year.........you're rooted.



As an idle, romantic daydream, case in point............what would McCoy have been able to do if he was on as good a bike as Rossi and the like ?



......sure, a world championship is a moot point.........but damn.......we would have seen some ....-hot battles.





That's all in the hands of the Manufacturers, and has been this way since day one. It's just the gaps between good and bad just seem to be getting wider.



Well.....to me anyway......



Is it then something DORNA should be looking at, in as far as rule changes, to close this up ?



They have F1 as a reference point. They've had to be the pioneers in trying all sorts of rule changes to bring the racing back into it, as the thing was dying..........and Bernie was losing $$$$
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. ( .......and how .... boring was F1 becoming !...people, not even the die-hards...couldn't really be bothered watching)



Seems to be paying off. I hope DORNA can do it better, and sooner.



I wouldn't like to think that this sport lets it slide for as long as F1 did before doing something.



The trick would be, in not making it turn into WSBK....no mean feat.......I have no answers........only a dream of a large, competetive grid.



My personal opinion is that 800/990 is going to make .... all of a difference in regards to closer racing........but here's hoping, eh !.



Control tyres seem a step in the right direction. ( remember the Michelene A and B tyres ?.......the A's were worth what, a second a lap ? that was pretty crappy..........and glad that it's gone)



Unfortunately for you and I.....there will always be clowns.



Best we accept that bit.......bag them out and hope the bikes get closer in performance.



A good race always goes someway to nullifying the Vaudville bit for me...........or revving me up in the hope that the quiet bloke beats the clown next time out to shut him up and make him look silly ( er)
 
My only wish, is like the days of the early nineties ( no.....I don't want it to go back to then), or like a 125 race....that we get to watch that edge of the chair, holding of breath type racing where it comes down to the last couple of laps, or the last corner.



You know, as I do, that sometimes it's a bit of a drag to wait all week ( or whatever) to sit up till the late/early hours to watch a race, that turns out to be a 20-odd lap extension of Qualifying.



This is what i miss the most, even half the 125 races these days are boring, what happened to a line of 5,6,7 or even 10 riders nose to tail all race long, you never knew who was going to win until 2 laps to go when they started running into each other and it became of last man standing.



The best bit was they didnt complain every chance they got after the race that so and so got within 2 meters of them.
 
Not sure why the term "brillant" is used to describe guys doing there job. If the A/C breaks and I stay working in sweltering conditions, does that make me "brillant?"

These guys race at least 3 times a year in the wet and have countless practice sessions in it as well. They have spent their entire lives riding in all types of conditions.

This is what they do. They had a difficult day at the track but nothing out of the norm.



Great to see the "Legendary" Colin Edwards podium by default. Great to see because I had no idea he was still in motogp. Thanks for the reminder Colin. Your team spends millions of dollars each year on you so you can do what you did today. But dont worry about podium because we all love your sound bites. They are "Legendary" just like yourself. I cant wait until the legends of motogp book gets written. It will have Schwantz, Rainey, Lawson,KR,Doohan, Rossi and Colins sound bites.

Style over Substance wins every time.



Oh and Stoners win at Silverstone................ Brillant
 
If we /they could get all the bikes relatively close in performance ( a dream, I know), then we may get to see that type of racing again.





Thats exactly why this year is so good. The WC points are swinging between Lorenzo and Stoner ....... we have two great riders on two great bikes.



Where do you get your garbage from ?
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Ummmmmmm.....a points battle isn't as interesting as good ol' paint swapping, late braking racing. To me, anyway.



Kenny Jr won a title finishing 2nd or worse for a whole season ( no disrespect KRj....that was a pile of .... bike) and wasn't that exiting !!!



As did Hayden ( again , no disrespect to him).....although that one was very interesting.





........Lorenzo finishing distant second and thirds, with the occasional win isn't what I'd call exiting racing.



Not even Stoners teammates can get close ( though that's hardly his fault), but if Hee-Haws Yammy, and that Turd that is the Duck were up to par.......there's two riders who have proven they can go with him (whether they can beat him or not is the whole point)......and it would put on one hell of a show for us, the general public.



My whole point was how exiting it would be, if in some alternate univerese, the bikes were closer in performance to each other, to really throw these blokes together and create the possible spectacle that is lying just under the surface.



Where do you get yours from ?





Yet another witty, thought provoking retort from you.





I think, looking into the future......the points aren't swinging.......they've swung. Lorenzo won't get the lead back, unless(god forbid) Stoner has an almighty injury.



Not on that Yamaha , anyway.





Just took Stoner a minute to get his head around the Honda is all.
 
I actually cant remember who was in front of spies in the race, so the following may be a very harsh comment, if im wrong i apologise in advance.



But, where they cheering as spies crashed!?
 
I actually cant remember who was in front of spies in the race, so the following may be a very harsh comment, if im wrong i apologise in advance.



But, where they cheering as spies crashed!?





I wondered that too, thinking that maybe they thought it was Lorenzo and the Boppers don't like Lorenzo .
 
I actually cant remember who was in front of spies in the race, so the following may be a very harsh comment, if im wrong i apologise in advance.



But, where they cheering as spies crashed!?



Hard to tell from that clip, but l don't think they were cheering, maybe an "ooooohhh" or a "wow" but not a cheer imo.



Colin Edwards was the rider who went through just before Spies came off.
 
Not sure why the term "brillant" is used to describe guys doing there job. If the A/C breaks and I stay working in sweltering conditions, does that make me "brillant?"

These guys race at least 3 times a year in the wet and have countless practice sessions in it as well. They have spent their entire lives riding in all types of conditions.

This is what they do. They had a difficult day at the track but nothing out of the norm.



Great to see the "Legendary" Colin Edwards podium by default. Great to see because I had no idea he was still in motogp. Thanks for the reminder Colin. Your team spends millions of dollars each year on you so you can do what you did today. But dont worry about podium because we all love your sound bites. They are "Legendary" just like yourself. I cant wait until the legends of motogp book gets written. It will have Schwantz, Rainey, Lawson,KR,Doohan, Rossi and Colins sound bites.

Style over Substance wins every time.



Oh and Stoners win at Silverstone................ Brillant



Don't know what it is you do for a living Bro, but if you do it at over 200 MPH in freezing rain with your extremities numb from cold with a pack of blood-thirsty competitors trying to shove past you in an off-camber turn when you can barely see where you're going with your tires shredding to pieces, then props to you.
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I think getting on the bike, riding to any place you can get is going to do your championship placing a whole lot more than sitting and whining about Simoncelli.........regardless of who is right or wrong.

Pedrosa has made a career out of coming back too soon from injury and (generally) doing himself more harm than good. He's a very fragile rider and it would take something sensational to take down Stoner and Pedrosa (something that probably isn't going to happen if you're riding at less than 100 percent). And that's not even taking into consideration the rumors that he re-injured the bone (perhaps another fracture) during a supermoto training accident. I'm of the belief that he should rest up and come back fully fit.



+1

Dovi needs to take some risks and push the bike more cause it looks like sic has more raw speed. I'm sure Sic will come down, just like when Stoner and Lorenzo Started their Motogp campaign they too crashed a lot, now look at them now.

Dovi is also two years more experienced than Simoncelli. His time for learning (in the big leaps and bounds sense that you're referring to with Stoner in 2006, Lorenzo in 2008, and Simoncelli now) has passed. That's the beauty of maturing as a rider as Dovi has, you don't get quicker by pitching machinery into the scenery, you get quicker by riding smarter races. Exactly as Dovi is doing. To suggest a polished and consistent rider like Dovizioso should alter his style to more of a wildcard approach like Simoncelli, in an effort to become quicker, is madness. It's a good way to get hurt. Besides, the championship table would suggest that Dovi's doing just fine the way he is.
 
Pedrosa has made a career out of coming back too soon from injury and (generally) doing himself more harm than good. He's a very fragile rider and it would take something sensational to take down Stoner and Pedrosa (something that probably isn't going to happen if you're riding at less than 100 percent). And that's not even taking into consideration the rumors that he re-injured the bone (perhaps another fracture) during a supermoto training accident. I'm of the belief that he should rest up and come back fully fit.





Dovi is also two years more experienced than Simoncelli. His time for learning (in the big leaps and bounds sense that you're referring to with Stoner in 2006, Lorenzo in 2008, and Simoncelli now) has passed. That's the beauty of maturing as a rider as Dovi has, you don't get quicker by pitching machinery into the scenery, you get quicker by riding smarter races. Exactly as Dovi is doing. To suggest a polished and consistent rider like Dovizioso should alter his style to more of a wildcard approach like Simoncelli, in an effort to become quicker, is madness. It's a good way to get hurt. Besides, the championship table would suggest that Dovi's doing just fine the way he is.



People are quick to forget Dovi's debute season on the silver slow Honda. He was quite aggressive and impressive back then. And let's not forget, the way he is riding now could win him a championship if we get another year like 2006. Next to someone like Stoner, he's a pretty good choice.
 

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