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Ha Ha!!!!!!!!! I got loadsa flack for saying Hopper was ..... on here an now everyone is miscalling him and slagging him off!
Tom, it's not like you to switch allegiance, ah sorry it is, forgot you were Tomkie when Nicky was winning!
Tom, it's not like you to switch allegiance, ah sorry it is, forgot you were Tomkie when Nicky was winning!
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Your Mom's House
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For those who believed the facade, yes. Which included many spectators, "expert" media, and even former champs and racers. You know, all those peeps that Jack88 thinks are infallible. Everybody ignored the lessons of Capirossi, Melandri, and Hayden. But somehow they thought Rossi would be different. Why? Because they bought the facade created by the league. Thats why its so important for boppers like J4rno to claim over a year into the failures of VR that "Ducati were doing nothing for Valentino." hahaha, still makes me laugh. And now, the reminder is making him butt hurt.
Are you down to inventing quotes Jum...? And to hiding your digs at people in replies to others?. ...Oh wait, but when you are this sneaky it's usually the booze, isn't it....
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Are you down to inventing quotes Jum...? And to hiding your digs at people in replies to others?. ...Oh wait, but when you are this sneaky it's usually the booze, isn't it....
Hiding my digs, no sir, I always call you by name, as I did in the post you just quoted. Booze makes me a nice guy, so when I'm on the sauce, you will get a nice little emoticon thrown your way.
Aragon will be an interesting GP to see if Ducati have really made progress. The stars did align for VR at Misano so I'm not reading it as the second coming at this stage.
Well my feelings on Nicky remain the same, but my allegiance to Jumkie was something you made up which I wouldn't wish to encourage unnecessarily
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Business a bit slow today Kesh?
I saw Tom Waits as a matter of fact at the Hammersmith Odeon in the late 80s. I actually recognised someone from the pub there who had come by mistake thinking it was that dreadful AOR soft rocker John Waite
I saw Tom Waits as a matter of fact at the Hammersmith Odeon in the late 80s. I actually recognised someone from the pub there who had come by mistake thinking it was that dreadful AOR soft rocker John Waite
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Your Mom's House
Just watched ATF, and in their recap, they show Pedro clearly lunging forward and actually almost making contact with Barbera as he was erratic and obviously desperate to get ahead (see him coming out of the corner). There has been a kneejerk reaction to automatically blame Barbera for this incident, but all incidents stem from a chain of events, and clearly this was caused by Pedro. I'm sure Hector may even think he could have done more to stop his bike, that, or as we saw from the damage control playbook of press release apologies, he was trying to minimize his liability. Which some of you may want to think about, considering Hector has not received a penalty to start from the back penalty, despite his apology almost identical to Bautista (read their press releases again side by side, as they supposedly describe the same thing, one would think the penalty would be identical). Now couple this with Abraham's recent pre-emptive press release, going out of their way saying the incident had nothing to do with them, which made me think, why would they feel the need to issue such a "it wasn't our fault' explanation? Could it be that there was a discussion to penalize Abraham? Or maybe just the thought that went through their mind, knowing that favored Spanish riders must be appeased with penalties? Something to think about....
Regardless, the crash was caused by Pedro.
Regardless, the crash was caused by Pedro.
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Pedrosa was fully past Barbera before his braking phase into the corner finished (ie when he stopped dangling his leg and started to tip it in) and had even changed from inside Barbera to outside him, therefore was completely past.
However, from the video, just before the contact Barbera was inside and slightly alongside Pedrosa (his front wheel level with Pedrosa's rear). The only way this can happen is he braked later than Pedrosa, but obviously it wasn't a pass attempt as he was too far back.
The comment you made previously about Pedrosa's lean angle becoming much greater part way though the corner because, in your opinion, he needed to lean more to make the corner cannot be right. Rea is in front of Pedrosa by about a bike length and just before the accident they are carrying the same speed and the same lean angle. Rea makes it round the corner without changing either, so I doubt Pedrosa needed to.
What did happen, imo, is that Barbera's highside started at that point and his front wheel made contact with Pedrosa's rear, pushing said rear to the outside of the corner and making it look like Pedrosa had suddenly massively increased his lean angle (which is unlikely - you don't do anything that violent deliberately at that point in a corner unless it's to stand the bike up as you know you won't make it). The highside continued and he collected Pedrosa
The accident was Barbera's fault, he admitted it, his team admitted it, all the experts agree. If it's necessary to make up conpiracy theories to support why everyone would say one thing when the opposite was true, the chances are that those conspiracy theories are wrong.
Just forget about it. Everyone understands what happened and has put it to rest but Jumkie.
Yamaka46, you just wasted however much time it took you to write up that response and set up the pictures.
Yamaka46, you just wasted however much time it took you to write up that response and set up the pictures.
Joined Feb 2009
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
in depth analysis by noyes.worth reading
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-pedrosas-perfect-storm/P1
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-pedrosas-perfect-storm/P1
