I don't recall claiming to have ridden both machines for comparison... this must be some of Jumkie's 'dirt'If you didn't expect Rossi to be quicker than the best superbike riders in normal conditions i'd guess you've not been paying attention. Like i said, this is about the injury
you said :- "In fairness you would expect Rossi to be significantly quicker than anyone in superbikes because lets face it, its world superbike." implying as you have many times before that superbike's are far easier to ride than motogp bike's. I say you are no-one to say this as you yourself have never ridden either. Both other different problems that require different styles and approach. To say i claimed you have ridden both is laughable Tom, i personally don't believe you ride at all ! The .... you spout imply this.
Without wishing to jump into the middle of anyone's flame war, the way I understood this is that it's not that the bikes are easy to ride, but that the level of competition is so mediocre. Spies came in and cleaned up with virtually no testing, and he is yet to match the pace of the Aliens. If any of the top four came into WSBK, they'd clean up. Rossi has two outings on the bike, about 4 hours, and he's already on race pace. With a full off-season of testing, there'd be no one in the same postcode. That's true for Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, probably for Spies, Hayden, De Puniet, Dovizioso.
It will be interesting to see what happens if Melandri goes to WSBK next year. That should provide a decent measure.
This is the point i'm making. Not forgetting that we can be sure Rossi can adapt to a superbike because he was quick at the 8-hour, plus the current wsbk pace setter is a rider who Rossi had the measure of 5 years ago. Since then Vale has kept his skills sharp in the pinnacle of the sport, Biaggi has not. Oh and don't worry about chiming in, i like to hear other peoples views
Well i can see why you may Interpret that from tom's statement, but i have been reading his opinions for several years and know his thoughts on the subject as do many others here
Well i can see why you may Interpret that from tom's statement, but i have been reading his opinions for several years and know his thoughts on the subject as do many others hereI agree with you that at present the competition is not at its highest level in wsb, not that it's too great in motogp , only a few are regally competitive.
I can understand your point of view since there are posters on this thread known for not necessarily being rossi fans, but I think tom and barry have a point in this case. It does speak for the quality of the man that he can ride a bike at all, let alone a current wsbk at podium pace, but I think it is actually true that he is testing a wsbk (because he can't test a motogp bike) to see how impaired he is, and he clearly still has some doubts himself as to whether he should ride the motogp race this weekend despite his sterling performance. I am sure most ordinary mortals would struggle to ride a vespa, and among professional riders he does not have to concede to anyone as far as toughness goes as we already knew from his record number of consecutive starts prior to this injury , although there are others who are also tough, including perhaps surprisingly dani pedrosa who didn't let breaking one or possibly both ankles impede his 2005 world championship in the 250 class.
As an aside, I find speculation (mostly elsewhere) that he is riding a WSBK to put pressure on yamaha and dorna regarding the possibility of him switching to wsbk (apparently with ducati) difficult to fathom since yamaha presumably would be unlikely to supply him with crutchlow's or toseland's current factory yamaha superbikes for this purpose.
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Hey come on Mic!!
Rog. was about to show us his "tectonic intellect"! He was just beginning to make a lopsided mountain out of a perfectly good molehill, and now you've ruined it
Well i can see why you may Interpret that from tom's statement, but i have been reading his opinions for several years and know his thoughts on the subject as do many others hereI agree with you that at present the competition is not at its highest level in wsb, not that it's too great in motogp , only a few are regally competitive.
It might not be as fun for you but you could just read my posts rather than ignoring them, making up your own version of 'my opinion' and then picking on details to try and start a fight.
So you deny you have in the past rubbished 125, 250 and wsb compared to motogp purely because motogp is the pinnacle ??
Fair enough.
I wouldn't rubbish any of them, they are the 4 best series in the world of motorcyle racing. Relative to GP i don't particularly admire WSBK but i've always been a big 250 fan. I don't really understand what you're asking, of course i think motogp is the pinnacle of the sport but thats just not a randomly allocated title, it is the pinnacle because compared to other series Its the most hi-tech, the fastest, the hardest, the most glamorous and the most popular.
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