Rossi to test at Bruno

I think it's quite impressive doing that laptime with broken leg and hurt shoulder!

The other guys have had some time setting their bikes up,before that race.

But,what tires did he use?

Was it 16,5 " Bridgestone MotoGP tires?

BarryMachine said:

Well it appears this thread is reaching the stage of:



"Boppercalifragilisticespialidocious"



reality/head check:



Rossi was 0.6 seconds off race pace of the WSBK guys.

Thats not close, especially when one should expect he should be trouncng them by that sort of margin.

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Only Cal Crutchlow had a better lap time than 1:59.8 in the race. In other words, Rossi was right on race pace.



Seriously, you expect Rossi to trounce the WSBK guys in a single test on a (for him) pretty much new bike, with a broken leg and injured shoulder?



In my eyes, his times are seriously impressive. With a little more time on the bike and a healed body he would dominate in WSBK, no doubt about it.

chopperman said:

I think it unlikely Rossi would have had superpole tyres just for tooling around seeing if he can still ride. WSB use Pirelli which rossi has no contract with. Cant see Pirelli giving the doctor a go on their top rubber when he is contracted with their compitition. Maybe bridgstone gave him some rubber for these tests?

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"Rossi completed 46 laps at the Brno circuit, clocking a best time of 1.59.135 on a soft Pirelli qualifying tyre. His best lap on race rubber was a 1.59.8."



This was in the article above my comment, that is why I asked. Lapping just below 2`00 on race tires and improve it by 0.6sec on the quali tire seems to be excellent given the fact that he´s far from 100% and sat only the second time on that bike.

Fred00 said:

Seriously, you expect Rossi to trounce the WSBK guys in a single test on a (for him) pretty much new bike, with a broken leg and injured shoulder?

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When fit, yes I do expect Rossi to trounce the WSBK guys. Hence why one would do such a test to gauge how well his recovery is, otherwise why test? To see what a hero he is to .the Boppers? No I would think it was a serious test.

BarryMachine said:

When fit, yes I do expect Rossi to trounce the WSBK guys. Hence why one would do such a test to gauge how well his recovery is, otherwise why test?

To see what a hero he is to .the Boppers? No I would think it was a serious test.

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I think you are talking at cross-purposes with some of the posters on this thread and that your basic point ie that at full health rossi would be expected to be faster than cal crutchlow quite rapidly no matter what the bike is correct and implicitly acknowledges his greatness rather than denigrates him; as I said earlier I think he was 2 seconds a lap quicker than colin edwards on a superbike when they rode the suzuka 8 hour race which may even have been in one of colin's championship years( EDIT It was in 2001 when colin came second; he won the wsbk championship in 2000 and 2002). That he can do this well 5 weeks after his injury is obviously remarkable, but as you also said would it be acceptable to him to ride motogp probably with no chance of winning for at least a couple of races while he continues to recover?



If he comes back at sachsenring and wins as well as acknowledging his great talent, as most fans of the sport do when it comes down to it, I will also have to acknowledge he actually is the invincible super-hero he is considered to be by some of his fans. If the x-ray someone posted recently showing a comminuted (fragmented) fracture was his I am astonished he can ride; if it is a more straight forward fracture and he has avoided the infectious and soft tissue complications of a compound/open fracture as seems to be the case he is probably now in a similar position to an "ordinary" fracture, and has been said these elite ( perhaps super-elite in his case) sportsmen do sometimes recover remarkably compared to mortal men.

mylexicon said:

Rossi, Spies, Hayden, Edwards, and Capirossi all defect to WSBK. Bayliss comes out of retirement. Mladin comes out of retirement.

Biaggi vs. Rossi; Edwards vs. Bayliss; Spies vs. Mladin. All at the same time on the same track. I think my head is about to explode.

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You forgot to add that Dorna is going to switch the grid size from 18 riders to 8. LOL.



Yes seeing all those guys out there would be down right awsome, and WSBK would then be larger than MotoGP.

BarryMachine said:

Well it appears this thread is reaching the stage of:



"Boppercalifragilisticespialidocious"



reality/head check:



Rossi was 0.6 seconds off race pace of the WSBK guys.

Thats not close...

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I'm very aware that inam/talpa (and new editions like woody) & co have the IQ of a rotting cucumber, but.... not to be impressed with Rossi's lap time puts you in the same intelligence strata as an Amoeba. I'm not ready to build a statue to his "heroic" return because others have ridden just as injured, but factor in dude's broken leg and his lap time is basically on pace. I'm not even going to go into the fact that this was a 'test' compared to guys who are riding for their lives (lets not even go into weather conditions for comparisons, as this might cause your head to explode).



Its easy enough to expose the real Boppers for the lame brains they are, but you provide these fools way to much fodder; making yourself a fool.

not to mention its a different bike and totally diferent tires, to hop on a bike and throw down lap times like that is unreal, especially considering his condition.

In fairness you would expect Rossi to be significantly quicker than anyone in superbikes because lets face it, its world superbike. This is really about the extent of Rossi's recovery, and if Rossi can ride a pretty competative pace on a bike as heavy as his motogp bike then it looks like he's made a pretty decent effort so far.

Tom said:

In fairness you would expect Rossi to be significantly quicker than anyone in superbikes because lets face it, its world superbike. This is really about the extent of Rossi's recovery, and if Rossi can ride a pretty competative pace on a bike as heavy as his motogp bike then it looks like he's made a pretty decent effort so far.

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Yeah yeah yeah, like you would know how different riding a wsb bike is compared to a gp bike A lot of wsb rider have not performed as expected on a gp bike and a lot of gp riders have gone to wsb and not performed.

Jumkie said:

I'm very aware that inam/talpa (and new editions like woody) & co have the IQ of a rotting cucumber, but.... not to be impressed with Rossi's lap time puts you in the same intelligence strata as an Amoeba. I'm not ready to build a statue to his "heroic" return because others have ridden just as injured, but factor in dude's broken leg and his lap time is basically on pace. I'm not even going to go into the fact that this was a 'test' compared to guys who are riding for their lives (lets not even go into weather conditions for comparisons, as this might cause your head to explode).



Its easy enough to expose the real Boppers for the lame brains they are, but you provide these fools way to much fodder; making yourself a fool.

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Folk race with broken bones all the time. Elias had a broken Femur, known as one of the most painful breaks one can have as well as being heavily reliant on structural suport. Its been 6 weeks now for Rossi, and it was a Tibia.



Your point on it being a "test" is a bit contradictory to my belief. Most races do include an amount of "having to stay on" more critically, as well as the extra rides being on track being somewhat distracting to setting a personal best tme.



I must admit I'm a bit "meh" about it all, it could be just me, I'm not a very easily excited person



But I am impressed by your assertion that I have the same intelligence strata as an amoeba, that would be very dificult!! and if I have achieved this, then I truly am a god.



Carry on being "impressed" though won't you, Just surpised you haven't written a page ( or even a paragraph) on just how "impressed" you are by now.



I'm not impressed Jumkie, its a hard fact for you it seems, but I'm sure you will get over it in time.

Jumkie said:

I'm very aware that inam/talpa (and new editions like woody) & co have the IQ of a rotting cucumber, but.... not to be impressed with Rossi's lap time puts you in the same intelligence strata as an Amoeba. I'm not ready to build a statue to his "heroic" return because others have ridden just as injured, but factor in dude's broken leg and his lap time is basically on pace. I'm not even going to go into the fact that this was a 'test' compared to guys who are riding for their lives (lets not even go into weather conditions for comparisons, as this might cause your head to explode).



Its easy enough to expose the real Boppers for the lame brains they are, but you provide these fools way to much fodder; making yourself a fool.

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Hayden comes 4th and you cum in your pants, Rossi breaks the lap record on a bike he's ridden once with a broken leg using crutches just to get on it against the best guys in the world on superbikes! Just on pace.........

Once again you call us boppers???!!!



if we are rotted cucumbers then you've already decomposed

Talpa said:

if we are rotted cucumbers then you've already decomposed

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Whoa up there guys lets not get too rough!!, I was wrong! you guys truly are nerdacious! Now you are having a verbal vegetable fight



Should I be "impressed" with this Jumkie?? Just wait I'll check to see if my pulse has gone up ......... noooo not yet

Talpa said:

Hayden comes 4th and you cum in your pants, Rossi breaks the lap record on a bike he's ridden once with a broken leg using crutches just to get on it against the best guys in the world on superbikes! Just on pace.........

Once again you call us boppers???!!!



if we are rotted cucumbers then you've already decomposed

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burn

chopperman said:

Yeah yeah yeah, like you would know how different riding a wsb bike is compared to a gp bike

A lot of wsb rider have not performed as expected on a gp bike and a lot of gp riders have gone to wsb and not performed.

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I don't recall claiming to have ridden both machines for comparison... this must be some of Jumkie's 'dirt' If you didn't expect Rossi to be quicker than the best superbike riders in normal conditions i'd guess you've not been paying attention. Like i said, this is about the injury

Tom said:

I don't recall claiming to have ridden both machines for comparison... this must be some of Jumkie's 'dirt'

If you didn't expect Rossi to be quicker than the best superbike riders in normal conditions i'd guess you've not been paying attention. Like i said, this is about the injury

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Its like trying to look through a lead wall, I already tried to explain this to them Tom, but no ....... they have gone up one of their paths again, and can;t find the way to get unstuck.

Talpa said:

Rossi breaks the lap record on a bike he's ridden once

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Cool .... I've ridden more R1's than Rossi!! Wow didn't know that. Somehow I find that hard to believe but if you say its so Talp., then so be it

because a factory r1 is EXACTLY the same as an sbk bike..right?



lol @jumkie's amoeba comment...hilarious

Seeing as Jumkie decided to give me a special mention, I thought I'd throw in my two cents.



They are good times that Rossi has put down on that bike - if he was at 100%, I'd expect them to be better so I'm not anywhere near Jumkie's level of excitement with a 4th place Hayden finish. If Lorenzo was on the same bike, I'd also expect them to be better. Obviously Rossi is still hindered by his injury and he may be a second or more behind the pace he should be on a MotoGP bike. If he is a second behind, stay off it and get better first. The thing that concerns me more than his leg (let's face it Mick Doohan managed fine with only one leg that was remotely human) is his shoulder. What's the prognosis on that because if you read JB's comments from Le Mans (I think but I'm sure I'll get corrected if I'm wrong), this caused him to brake earlier, lower corner speed, spin it up on the way out and burn up the tyres? Rossi's comment was he got the setup wrong. It's now been 6 months or so since that injury and it is still affecting him.



Having said that, we need him back because the Boppers and the audiences they bring are the only reason there is any money in the sport to pay the current riders what they are on.

Tekniqs said:

because a factory r1 is EXACTLY the same as an sbk bike..right?



lol @jumkie's amoeba comment...hilarious

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Yes Identical, with the exception of a few bits and pieces like:



Electronics

electronics

electronics

Forks

Shock

electronics

Wheels

Tyres

electronics

Fairings

clipons

pegs

electronics

tank

Fenders

electronics

seat

plugs

engine parts

electronics

rear set

pipe

Ignition parts

electronics

oil

injector bits and pieces

brakes

electronics

Frame

swingarm

loss of lots of "roady parts"

electronics

Dash

fuel



apart from those few bits and pieces you tell me were they are different