Rossi still wont let it go

Regarding Uccio's proud revelation that he spotted the PI misdoings, I'm not so sure..
I think this is all a ruse to exonerate VR somewhat and try and cleanse his reputation after his ridiculous behaviour at Sepang.
Many journalists and commentators, even the terribly biased bunch on BT Sports were saying that VR had lost the plot and looked stressed out and crazy during his Sepang Pre race press conferences. During the race they were saying he deserved black flagging and disqualified for his actions. It wasn't until after the race and the great Dorna machine swung into action that they changed their tune.
Indeed Neil Hodgson stood outside race control for hours to try and interview any riders or team members. None went by him, only MM and VR were there and they were inside, but soon Hodgson was claiming Lorenzo was up there screaming and demanding Rossi wasn't being punished enough. He had no footage of Lorenzo entering the building and indeed the guy wasn't there as he'd been ushered back to his garage by the team in an effort to keep things calm. This was a plain effort to try and paint Lorenzo as the bad guy and detract from Rossi's misdoings, sure he made a knee jerk reaction with the thumb down gesture, but that was in the moment and only seconds after being told about it by Dani Pedrosa in the upstairs corridor and seeing the action on a wall mounted tv just before being called out to the podium.
Not once during any interview or press conference did Rossi allude to Uccio's inclusion in his revelations on PI. It's my opinion that Uccio's taking the fall somewhat for VR whether voluntarily or under orders from his PR machine.
The reason Rossi is still bleating about it all is because like a spoilt child, he knows he's wrong, but the more he says he was right, the more he thinks he is convincing people he was right.
To me, a once great champion and great rider (he's still a great rider) had no reason to be so nasty and vindictive to his rivals over the years. The guy should have done all his talking on the track. Sure he's still got millions of fans, but he's lost a lot on the way too...
Many will remember him for the Sepang incident and not for some of the wonderful performances he's put in over the decades, a great shame.

you all seem to know everything that happened outside the track, who told vr what, who was in race control room, even what will happened at the last 2 races if vr hadnt run off mm, regarding the points. thats all good for you. but most highly irrelevant.. try to forget all these and simply answer if at the last 3 races mm play with vr and spoil one of the greatest season endings of all time! unless you like to see vr start from last position, you take some pleasure from it...

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you all seem to know everything that happened outside the track, who told vr what, who was in race control room, even what will happened at the last 2 races if vr hadnt run off mm, regarding the points. thats all good for you. but most highly irrelevant.. try to forget all these and simply answer if at the last 3 races mm play with vr and spoil one of the greatest season endings of all time! unless you like to see vr start from last position, you take some pleasure from it...

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On the contrary, you seem to know everything that happened in Mar Marquez' head. Oh the irony...

well the one i know is on camera with much different angles indeed. yours is just speculation seeing through keyholes (maybe your favourite part) and reading through the crystal ball, so hail great master of tabloid!

jarno said:

well the one i know is on camera with much different angles indeed. yours is just speculation seeing through keyholes (maybe your favourite part) and reading through the crystal ball, so hail great master of tabloid!

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The rest of the world tried to warn Greece about the dangers of using lead paint.

try not to critisize a nation because of me. i know you dont like vr cause you from cs's land and everything but try to see everyone as an individual. if you cant be a racer theres no need to be a racist!

everybody knows he didnt have the speed. we all said it 1000 times. thats why mm try the games. if he had the speed no games were played... he didnt have to win jl, he was ahaid of points and anyway i dont give a .... about the 10th or 8th i care for the finalle we all miss... to see how he react. like rossi i hope or like last race of 2006? we never gonna find out! anyway still no answer to mm's play. you all said is legal, true but also a decent one? no one tells i wonder why!

err sorry but the last 3 races especially pi lorenjo wasnt so fast, unless you are used to watch 4 riders within a second. jl should have finished 4th in pi, imho... as for the last 2 we will never know and that is the worst as i said 1000 times but you still answer like ''rossi failed miserably''. great words...

The good old coulda woulda shoulda.

Jlo shoulda finished 4th, Rossi shoulda finished 1st, Rossi shoulda been world champion.

How about Rossi shoulda been black flagged on the spot. Any other rider woulda been.

Rossi coulda been world champion, but alas he "failed miserably".

Lorenzo wasn't so fast? Lap record pace every lap around Valencia, but not so fast then?
Hmm just a shitload quicker than Rossi, must've been Marquez's fault eh?
Rossi was crapping himself after PI and knew he'd bottle it at Valencia as he has before. It's only a matter of time before he starts whining about changing the order of the races or even dropping Valencia altogether.
We're already considering radios because Rossi wants them as he's crap at flag to flag races.
Whatever he wants he gets because dorna let him...

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err sorry but the last 3 races especially pi lorenjo wasnt so fast, unless you are used to watch 4 riders within a second. jl should have finished 4th in pi, imho... as for the last 2 we will never know and that is the worst as i said 1000 times but you still answer like ''rossi failed miserably''. great words...

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Rossi wasn't even fast enough to beat Pedrosa in 4 of the last 5 races, or Iannone at PI.

In any of those races all he had to do, since he had a points lead as you say, was be fast enough to get and stay in front of Lorenzo, which he couldn't do even at Sepang where he qualified ahead of Lorenzo. If his only strategy was to hope he could come through the field late then it was a flawed one, and the riders other than Lorenzo are entitled to run their own race strategies rather than obliged to co-operate with his.

I have frequently alluded to 1992, when Mick Doohan lost by 4 points. He completely dominated everyone early season, including the title winner, the great Wayne Rainey, so much so that he was still in contention points wise after missing several races following the crash and injury which nearly cost him his leg at Assen. He returned and rode injured for the last 2 races, but there was no suggestion from anyone let alone him that riders other than Rainey, most of whom he could beat easily if fit rather than not being good enough per se, should let him beat them, nor any detraction from Rainey's title. Most of the followers of the sport actually understood the sport back then.

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err sorry but the last 3 races especially pi lorenjo wasnt so fast, unless you are used to watch 4 riders within a second. jl should have finished 4th in pi, imho... as for the last 2 we will never know and that is the worst as i said 1000 times but you still answer like ''rossi failed miserably''. great words...

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As others have said,, shoulda woulda coulda. I don't hear you saying Lorenzo should have won races like Silverstone or Japan here he was one of the fastest all weekend until rain on raceday. Of course then you'll just say Lorenzo wasn't fast enough.

If Lorenzo realised it was Marquez coming through he probably would've defended his position and possibly won the race. He thought it was Iannone coming through due to his lap board on the previous lap and thought it better to let Iannone through rather than being Iannoned.

Edit to add: if Rossi and his fans want to play hypotheticals it's very easy to do so. Lorenzo could've gone into Valencia in a far better position.

jarno said:

try not to critisize a nation because of me. i know you dont like vr cause you from cs's land and everything but try to see everyone as an individual. if you cant be a racer theres no need to be a racist!

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Really, actually I'm a quite a big VR fan myself and have been since the 90's. Met him at PI, have some signed memorabilia, .... ... my sister even bought me a membership to his fan club last year. Its actually embarrassing for me to tell that to people though, mainly because of the mentality of fans like you.

my friend, i think its embarrassing to collect memorabilia and having a fun club card, past the tender age of ten but no worries! embarrasment and child behaviour will fade eventually! sorry but 1992 md neither blocked when he returned by f.e. kocinsky nor this could make any difference cause he wasnt fit enough to catch wr anyway, so still ill communication... also honda was pretty ready at the late stages of 2015 and dp's results show that, but mm wasnt showing full potential respectivelly... and ofcourse no answer to my only question, if you find the whole mm-vr 3 last race situation suspicious... try to forget the past and your hate towards vr, try to forget vr fans you think they wait for your lips to admit it so they can find inner peace and see the last 3 races with no glasses. and please dont bother to answer ''it was leggit'', i feel im talking to a bunch of mm lawyers...

The problem with your opinion is that it appears to be based on mental retardation.

jarno said:

my friend, i think its embarrassing to collect memorabilia and having a fun club card, past the tender age of ten but no worries! embarrasment and child behaviour will fade eventually! sorry but 1992 md neither blocked when he returned by f.e. kocinsky nor this could make any difference cause he wasnt fit enough to catch wr anyway, so still ill communication... also honda was pretty ready at the late stages of 2015 and dp's results show that, but mm wasnt showing full potential respectivelly... and ofcourse no answer to my only question, if you find the whole mm-vr 3 last race situation suspicious... try to forget the past and your hate towards vr, try to forget vr fans you think they wait for your lips to admit it so they can find inner peace and see the last 3 races with no glasses. and please dont bother to answer ''it was leggit'', i feel im talking to a bunch of mm lawyers...

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Simple, as has been asked of you before find a date stamped reference by any commentator who saw any irregularity with how MM rode at PI 2015 prior to the Sepang 2015 press conference. That MM tanked a race that he won and somehow also determined the order behind him down to 4th is a ludicrous proposition, particularly given that when he rode as you claim he was obliged to ride in 2015 in the 2 adjacent seasons he crashed out of large leads.

What happened with Dani Pedrosa is that he recovered from his early season surgery, and then became fast enough that Rossi mostly couldn't beat him. Rossi actually got most of his points vs Lorenzo in an unusual number of wet races since Lorenzo couldn't ride the wet tyre, while in the dry races one of the only 4 bikes capable of winning in the dry was ridden by Pedrosa who was either hampered by arm pump, absent having surgery for arm pump or recovering from said surgery and hence unable to take points away from Rossi when Lorenzo beat him in the dry.

Rossi would still have deserved to win if he had prevaied by being better in the wet obviously, but the notion that the HRC riders were obliged not to race Rossi late season is another ludicrous one; you seem to be suggesting MM was obliged to keep crashing and Dani to keep riding as if physically impaired.