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Qatar 2014 Race Thread

Rossi has been training this winter like he never did before, and adopted healthier habits in general. He's always been lazy, getting out of bed before 3 pm only on race weekends; always loved his drinks and parties and staying up all night, but the times he could do that and rely only on his talent to beat opponents on Sundays are gone. Last year he saw that being back on an M1 wasn't enough to stay with the younger guys. At 35 you got to train much, much harder and go to bed much earlier. So he has committed himself to all the necessary hard work and discipline, going to the gym every day and to the dirt track every other day, where he has been racing Pasini, Fenati, his half-brother Luca and others all winter, consistently beating them. This unprecedented effort shows his determination to be at the top again before retiring. 


 


But there's no way he can change his birth date. He'll do better than last year, because he has never lost his talent and today he's a better athlete than ever in his life. His final position will depend much on his young opponents luck (and his own of course). But qualifying is going to remain a nagging problem for him, because those fast kids in their 20's do have the extra something worth 2 or 3 tenths on a single lap, enough to make him start from 3rd row.  He'll do better than last year, no doubt about it -- but Marquez is stronger and on a slightly better bike, (a certain difference in acceleration especially out of corner 10 was visible). Lorenzo is on the same bike and faster most of the time, his only problem is he's a bit nervous and that showed at Qatar, he shouldn't have tried too hard in the first laps. Pedrosa is... Pedrosa. There are no other challengers for the title. 
 
I'm pretty sure they did have dual compound fronts. Softer on the left.
Great race - Marquez & Rossi put on a great show. I hope it's a sign of things to come.
I think they really need to look at the value of having the Qatar GP a
night race. The tarmac would be a lot warmer & with no dew on it if
they raced in the day like every other track.
no. they have dual compound on the rear only, whereas the front is single compound. which is a bit stupid, given that they acknowledged the need for a softer compound on the left hand side given the track layout. they were just too dumb / ignorant / irresponsible to apply this logic to the front tire as well. et voilà, we had 4 riders from the top group binning it over the left front. but maybe that's just Bridgestone's way of enhancing entertainment and spectacle..
 
any word on Lorenzo's engine, did it survive the crash or is he down one already?
 
557953
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any word on Lorenzo's engine, did it survive the crash or is he down one already?


With all the excitement just being race season, i hadnt thought about that. Good question.
 
povol
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With all the excitement just being race season, i hadnt thought about that. Good question.


I've been looking around and haven't seen anything reported about it yet. I guess we'll only find out in COTA once the engine lists have been published.
 
It wasn't such a crash, -- that engine was actually spared one entire race... :)
 
J4rn0
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It wasn't such a crash, -- that engine was actually spared one entire race... :)


And what kind of crash would that be. High speed and gravel, there is always a chance it sucked something in the intake.
 
povol
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And what kind of crash would that be. High speed and gravel, there is always a chance it sucked something in the intake.


 


Intake and exhaust are protected from gravel since the inception of the silly engine limiting rule.
 
It got shook up pretty well and bashed around tho it may be ok but I wouldn't be sure 
 
J4rn0
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Intake and exhaust are protected from gravel since the inception of the silly engine limiting rule.


They are debris resistent,,  not debris proof. If they were debris proof. they wouldnt run
 
Just got back from field lab.. great ....... race :D


1 MM.. Little fuckers good but I hate midgets. :)

2 VR.. Old dog still gots some bite eh motherfuckers! :lol:

3 DP.. Second best midget

4 Aleash Asparagus.. why the .... was he in park ferme? ....... ....

5 Dovi. Never seen him

6 Crutch. Youre done

7 Redding. Youre ugly and your bike sucks.

8 Nick. Youre handsome and your bike sucks.

9 Colin. Youre cool and your bike sucks.

10. Andrea. Is a chicks name your bike sucks.

11. Hiroshi. Is a city we nuked in WWII

12. Yonny. Boy gots some nice teeth.

13. KA. Sucks.

14. DP. Cool hair.

15. Broc Parkes. Cool name, your bike sucks.

16. ML. Some dude.

17. MD. Some other dude.


DNFs

Bautista.. I laughed my ... off when you crashed cause I hate your stupid ....... face, hair, smile and wave. .......


Smith.. Dr Evil with annoying voice.


Pole Asparagus.. .... you and your bro.


Stefan.. !! NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN.!!....two weekz in ze coola..


Barbera.. midget with an even more annoying voice than Dr Evil.


JLO.. wtf dude.. dumb ....
 
J4rn0
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Rossi has been training this winter like he never did before, and adopted healthier habits in general. He's always been lazy, getting out of bed before 3 pm only on race weekends; always loved his drinks and parties and staying up all night, but the times he could do that and rely only on his talent to beat opponents on Sundays are gone. Last year he saw that being back on an M1 wasn't enough to stay with the younger guys. At 35 you got to train much, much harder and go to bed much earlier. So he has committed himself to all the necessary hard work and discipline, going to the gym every day and to the dirt track every other day, where he has been racing Pasini, Fenati, his half-brother Luca and others all winter, consistently beating them. This unprecedented effort shows his determination to be at the top again before retiring. 


 


But there's no way he can change his birth date. He'll do better than last year, because he has never lost his talent and today he's a better athlete than ever in his life. His final position will depend much on his young opponents luck (and his own of course). But qualifying is going to remain a nagging problem for him, because those fast kids in their 20's do have the extra something worth 2 or 3 tenths on a single lap, enough to make him start from 3rd row.  He'll do better than last year, no doubt about it -- but Marquez is stronger and on a slightly better bike, (a certain difference in acceleration especially out of corner 10 was visible). Lorenzo is on the same bike and faster most of the time, his only problem is he's a bit nervous and that showed at Qatar, he shouldn't have tried too hard in the first laps. Pedrosa is... Pedrosa. There are no other challengers for the title. 


 


He could train harder go to bed earlier etc etc as you suggest .................... or ............................ he could just sack the crew chief?
 
povol
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They are debry resistent,,  not debry proof. If they were debry proof. they wouldnt run


 


That's true... :) but the protection seems to be working well enough, since they adopted them I have not heard of engines lost due to collecting dirt in the intake or exhaust in the gravel traps.
 
birdman
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He could train harder go to bed earlier etc etc as you suggest .................... or ............................ he could just sack the crew chief?


 


That's a part of the story. Burgess had lost faith in Valentino's capacity to bounce back at his age (me too, btw!), and a rider at that level needs to have only true believers around. He is still convinced he can win (of course) so at the end of last year he planned to give it a last super-serious try. He got a new chief, trained maniacally the entire winter like never before, adopted a healthier lifestyle etc etc. And there he is. Will he succeed? Who knows. Still too early to tell. Me, I wish him good luck. After 18 years in GP and 9 titles, still showing such a determination is something remarkable in itself.
 
steeeeeve
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what work can or can't be done on a used engine during the season?


other's will know more but from what I can work out just general maintenance, oil, filters, plugs, electronics , sensors but no major internals as crankcases are sealed.
 
Went back and looked at last years results  and even with the side by side dueling between Marquez and Rossi, and both having to make up places early in the race,. they finished  within 7/ 10ths of last years race, or close to 5 seconds better than their last years time in similar conditions. Most everyone finished the race, or would have finshed the race with better times as well. Is it safe to assume thath h ad Lorenzo not been overzealous in his attempt to break the field, would have finshed considerably faster himself and won the race. Jorge has dug himself a monumental hole for no reason,That is a mistake he just doesnt make.  except that Marquez has gotten into his head.   He see's Marquez take the hard option and starts thinking to much about  building an early lead to combat what he thinks is a Marquez advantage late in the race. As it turns out, the softs had very little if any fall off and he may have just thrown the championship away on day one. The old saying, "you cant win the title in the first race, but you can damn well lose it"  is in play big time for Jorge. He could easily find himself 50 points down after the first 4 races IF the " Honda track, Yamaha track "  holds any water, but as good as the Yamaha has looked since the mid season addition of the seamless tranny last year, im not convinced  the " Honda track Yamaha track " thing exist any longer. Yamaha { Jorge } was not that far off at COTA last year, i expect with the improvement in the bike since they were last here, he will be racing for the win instead of riding a lonely 3rd. With the fuel issue seemingly a non issue now, there is very little if anything that seperates the Honda and the Yamaha. If Lorenzo is truley  better than Marquez like some say, he has the bike to race himself back into contention, no excuses.
 
Definitely Lorenzo had the potential to win last Sunday -- Qatar is one of his very best tracks. I actually picked him as the winner in the predictions thread, and put Marquez, Rossi and Pedrosa behind him -- in that order. 


He is a candidate for the title (as he has always been since 2009). The question is, will he keep his anger in check? His mistake was basically dictated by nerves. That wasn't the moment to push.
 
For some reason I feel as if Rossi will get the better of Jorge this season............ seems to me like Jorge's head isn't 100% in the game.
 
SuperShinya56
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For some reason I feel as if Rossi will get the better of Jorge this season............ seems to me like Jorge's head isn't 100% in the game.


I think JLo will get it together and be for wins.....but I think Rossi wont be as far away as he had been in 2013.....


.....and by not far away i mean either ahead or behind in distance on the track, performance in lap times during race or in points at the end of the season.......
 

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