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Preziosi: "Rossi? Fatal attraction"

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Valencia - There was a lot to discuss during the press conference held by Filippo Preziosi this afternoon. Fifteen minutes in English and fifteen in Italian, to explain, to a packed Ducati hospitality area, the work program for the next two days of testing. Two days that will see Valentino Rossi on the Desmosedici for the first time.





Chosing an engine. “This is the most important aspect of the test - Preziosi began - to chose which motor to move forward with (between the big bang or the screamer, ed.) To decide we will give the riders - Rossi and Hayden - three bikes: a big bang GP10, and two GP11's; one with a big bang evolution and one with a screamer. He will start with the big bang GP11, and then move on to the others."



Help! Just as Preziosi was talking about the big bang, a gust of wind nearly took down the hospitality structure. Luckily that big bang was avoided, and there were no "screamers" during the scare either.



Problem: keeping Rossi calm. “All this - Preziosi said, picking up where he left off - means working without worrying too much about lap times. But I think Rossi might not agree. I'll have to find a way to convince him." In some strange way, he will actually get some help with this from Yamaha. The Japanese manufacturer has strictly forbid Rossi (and they have ways of enforcing it) from talking about the Ducati or the test.



Thank you, Yamaha. No, not for putting the gag order on Rossi, but for allowing him to test with Ducati this week. A formal gesture of fair play that isn't all that common in the paddock these days.





The truth doesn't exist. “I don't have any particular preference for one engine or another. Aside from the different sounds they make, which you notice immediately, they are actually quite similar in terms of performance. The better one is the one that wins. The better one is the one that the riders feel better with.



If you want to talk about the truth, you have to realize that objective measures can only provide less than 50% of the answer, the rest comes from the rider's feelings. For this reason, even if we have charts and graphs with all the data, and even if we have feedback from the test rider, it is still up to the race riders to decide."



I would have killed Casey. “Sunday night, when it hit me that Stoner was no longer our rider, I suddenly felt very sad. I didn't think I was so attached to him. He is a fast rider, and an honest man. He is able to push a bike to its limits within a few laps, which is a big advantage. These are his strengths. You know them. He also has defects, for which there have been moments when I could have killed him. You know those as well..."



The fatal attraction to Valentino. “I spoke with Valentino a few times, even before he decided to race with us. There is something dangerously charming about him: dangerous because you find yourself liking your one of your opponents, which is never good. I understand why there are people that would do anything for him. The engineers that know him, they can tell you that his debriefings are like university lectures. Well, I would think they are more fun than that. He is the greatest rider of all time. As a motorcycle enthusiast and a fan, I am curious to see what he will do at Ducati."



Burgess and Preziosi's youth. “The first rider that I admired, when I was a kid, was Freddie Spencer. He had Jeremy Burgess for a crew chief. I'm almost nervous to work with him. I have spoken with him several times, and found him to be a nice person. He isn't the slightest bit arrogant, and he is very logical." .



Ducati: an atom bomb. “This morning, with Burgess and his group, we did an engine change. This afternoon we will put it all back together. I could see in their eyes that they were somewhat perplexed. Taking the engine out of a Desmosedici is like setting off an atomic bomb: the biggest piece that is left couldn't fill up a cup."



When Rossi pulls into the garage. “The work method won't change too much compared to a week ago. When Stoner would pull into the garage, three people would immediately go to him. The center of it all was C2 (Cristian Gabarrini's nickname, ed). There will be three people with Rossi as well, but the main reference will be Burgess.” With C2, the emphasis was always on the data; with Burgess it will be his vast experience.



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I would have killed Casey. “Sunday night, when it hit me that Stoner was no longer our rider, I suddenly felt very sad. I didn't think I was so attached to him. He is a fast rider, and an honest man. He is able to push a bike to its limits within a few laps, which is a big advantage. These are his strengths. You know them. He also has defects, for which there have been moments when I could have killed him. You know those as well..."



The fatal attraction to Valentino. “I spoke with Valentino a few times, even before he decided to race with us. There is something dangerously charming about him: dangerous because you find yourself liking your one of your opponents, which is never good.

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i really like nicky and i'm sure he does a lot for the team and everybodys happy that he's there,but i can't help feeling that ducati would have loved to keep stoner.

i'm just thinking,was it impossible to pay for a third bike?was it impossible to move hayden to another bike because rossi insisted on hayden being his teammate?



i was just reading about the supposed advantage honda has next year with 3 factory riders.just imagine what a force rossi-stoner-hayden would have been
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i'd love to hear some facts about the big bang or the screamer,like what is the power and torque difference .from what i know a big bang configuration always has the disadvantage of having less peak horsepower and very unlinear torque curves compared to screamers. and i can't think of a reason why someone would choose screamer if they do not get that peak power advantage. but maybe theres a techhead here that knows more?
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i really like nicky and i'm sure he does a lot for the team and everybodys happy that he's there,but i can't help feeling that ducati would have loved to keep stoner.

i'm just thinking,was it impossible to pay for a third bike?was it impossible to move hayden to another bike because rossi insisted on hayden being his teammate?



i was just reading about the supposed advantage honda has next year with 3 factory riders.just imagine what a force rossi-stoner-hayden would have been
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i'd love to hear some facts about the big bang or the screamer,like what is the power and torque difference .from what i know a big bang configuration always has the disadvantage of having less peak horsepower and very unlinear torque curves compared to screamers. and i can't think of a reason why someone would choose screamer if they do not get that peak power advantage. but maybe theres a techhead here that knows more?
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About keeping Stoner, i think Ducati loved to keep him, but for whatever reason he didn't want to continue with ducati, and chose for Honda, so they hadn't any reason/option for a 3th bike, like Honda did.(Honda had already 2 riders in contract for 2011 when they went for Stoner)



Preziosi has said a little about those engines: the engine that wins and is more rideable for the riders is the best.(so both are good, but it depends on riders and results)



Last year Presiosi said: Stoner is the fastest rider of motogp, and now for the first time he gives his opinion on Rossi's in media.
 
Filippo Preziosi and Vale look like there best buddies
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Yes, and he ís letting everybody know about how excited he is to work with Rossi. and let's not forget they were friends already before Rossi joined them.

but i like it how he still loves and talks about Casey. usually the team bosses dont talk about their last riders at all, but he doesn't mind to still thank and talk about Stoner.
 
i really like nicky and i'm sure he does a lot for the team and everybodys happy that he's there,but i can't help feeling that ducati would have loved to keep stoner.

i'm just thinking,was it impossible to pay for a third bike?was it impossible to move hayden to another bike because rossi insisted on hayden being his teammate?



I get a strong sense from Stoner that he wanted to leave Ducati because they wouldn't develop the bike. He kept asking for new parts, but they came only slowly, and not quickly enough to help deal with his problems. His biggest problem was that he was quick whatever the state of the bike, whether it got fixed or not. I think the Rossi-Preziosi love-in could be very short-lived.
 
I think the Rossi-Preziosi love-in could be very short-lived.



At the moment the Rossifans are still undergoing attempts at denial that there is even a problem.



Thank you for your honesty ........... it'll probably get you hounded/shot by the Rossifans, but thank you anyway.
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I get a strong sense from Stoner that he wanted to leave Ducati because they wouldn't develop the bike. He kept asking for new parts, but they came only slowly, and not quickly enough to help deal with his problems. His biggest problem was that he was quick whatever the state of the bike, whether it got fixed or not. I think the Rossi-Preziosi love-in could be very short-lived.



I see what you are saying but two things spring to mind. Firstly, if Rossi starts the season with something he cannot ride to his liking, surely Ducati would change this approach and bring him something he can ride, Rossi isn't like Stoner and their reputation depends on having him able to ride at the front. Secondly, i would expect Rossi/JB?Preziosi will be able to do enough work this winter to get Rossi on something he can use by the first race, so not having parts in the year probably wont be a problem anyway.
 
I get a strong sense from Stoner that he wanted to leave Ducati because they wouldn't develop the bike. He kept asking for new parts, but they came only slowly, and not quickly enough to help deal with his problems. His biggest problem was that he was quick whatever the state of the bike, whether it got fixed or not. I think the Rossi-Preziosi love-in could be very short-lived.
So you don't think that any of that was taken into consideration when Rossi signed for Ducati? According to Rossi he didn't go to Ducati before because of the way they did things, has that just been forgotten about?
 
Very uncomfortable he looked in the Ducati garage I noticed.
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Well it must be confusing after being graced with Adriana's presence, and now they look at that seat and see .... Uccio
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I don't think Uccio likes the Rossi to Duc. thing also.
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So you don't think that any of that was taken into consideration when Rossi signed for Ducati? According to Rossi he didn't go to Ducati before because of the way they did things, has that just been forgotten about?



I think they thought about it, but they didn't expect Rossi to be 15th after two days of testing. That changes the equation radically.





I see what you are saying but two things spring to mind. Firstly, if Rossi starts the season with something he cannot ride to his liking, surely Ducati would change this approach and bring him something he can ride, Rossi isn't like Stoner and their reputation depends on having him able to ride at the front. Secondly, i would expect Rossi/JB?Preziosi will be able to do enough work this winter to get Rossi on something he can use by the first race, so not having parts in the year probably wont be a problem anyway.



Ducati have a lot of things going for them: Preziosi is quite clearly a genius, Rossi is almost certainly the best development rider ever and JB has had some minor success in developing bikes (I seem to remember a championship or two). However, Ducati's problem is that the basic design is inherently flawed, and that flaw is part of the philosophy behind the bike. The philosophy is that it is up to the rider to sort the front end out, and he is to do that by flinging himself into corners hard enough that the tire gets a good work out and heats up enough to grip. If anyone has seen the movie Birdy, it's like the bit where Birdy flings himself off the roof. It takes a lot of courage to do that if you don't know what's beyond the edge. Preziosi has to accept that the bike he has been developing for the past 4 years at least is flawed, and he has to change the bike sufficiently to do it. He has to accept that all that complaining that Stoner was doing (largely behind closed doors) was justified, and he should have listened.



If ever there was a group of people technically capable of doing it, it's Rossi, JB and Preziosi. The question is a more human one: are they capable of recognizing their own faults and stepping over them? I don't think they will until Rossi has finished the first four or five races in the bottom half of the top 10.
 
they didn't expect Rossi to be 15th after two days of testing.



But Rossi wasn't trying to see how fast he could go on the Ducati ( according to some here
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Well it must be confusing after being graced with Adriana's presence, and now they look at that seat and see .... Uccio
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I don't think Uccio likes the Rossi to Duc. thing also.
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and it shows.



Actually, there was Rossi's girlfriend in the garage, the first morning of the tests. I was suprised, knowing that Rossi always forbade his girlfriends from entering the paddock. New era?
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Actually, there was Rossi's girlfriend in the garage, the first morning of the tests. I was suprised, knowing that Rossi always forbade his girlfriends from entering the paddock. New era?
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Ah .... the Orthodontist ?



Yes that would be uncomfortable for Uccio
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I get a strong sense from Stoner that he wanted to leave Ducati because they wouldn't develop the bike. He kept asking for new parts, but they came only slowly, and not quickly enough to help deal with his problems. His biggest problem was that he was quick whatever the state of the bike, whether it got fixed or not. I think the Rossi-Preziosi love-in could be very short-lived.



Yes, it seems only a couple of men can say, this needs to change, and gets it done. Do you think this dynamic will be better for Stoner at Honda? How fast and successful must a man be to garner an ear from the powers that be in MotoGP, from the organizers (Dorna, etc) to the team management and engineering department? Or is it just a function of whom those entities have decided is worth listening to?



MotoGP, a ...... place for the unpopular to compete and get a fair shake.
 

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