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Pre-Season TESTING 2013-2014

14X
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Do the rest of us Brits a favour and casually excuse yourself next time we have a grammar battle. :p


I'm well known for not only bad spelling and gramma see what i did their, and there. I'm also known for not giving a .... haha
 
14X
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Not necessarily. Dovi has had a year trying to polish that turd already, so he's probably adapted to a lot of it's foibles already. Besides, he's hardly ..... I wouldn't expect Cal to bury him.


 


Cal said the bike feels a lot different to what he's used to and will need to change his riding style to suit. Also, that's still this(last) year's Duc. The whole point of Cal riding it is so that he can work out exactly what he doesn't like about it so that he can help develop it.


 


I genuinely belive the 2014 Ducati will be something else entirely. Whether it'll be a good something else is something we'll have to wait and see.


I so want to believe you, but my head says it's going to be a frustrating year of watching Cal and Dovi battle it out for 8th place at best :cray:
 
chopperman
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That's Londonderry arrab ! lol. I don't profess to be pure English as genes go. My grandmother (mothers side) was Scottish (clan Mcloud) which makes me the Crest of the chiefs as i'm first male . Because of this pete and me are joined by blood as clansmen. I also have Irish (great grandfather mothers side) and Italian (great grandmother) from fathers side. I was born in England as was my mother and father and 3 out of 4 grand parents. I call myself English, not Irish or Scottish and definitely not Italian lol. Yet these American plastic Irish can only trace back Irish roots 7 generations back yet are proud irish and even raising funds "for the cause".


.... - you're a braver man than me!!!


 


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I remember you posting the crest...worth putting up again Rog!


 


I used to drink in Kilburn and South of the river in Stockwell during the late '80s and the bucket used to regularly circulate. A band used to always play in association with this of a similar ilk to The Dubliners. I was in one of those dreadful Plastic Paddy pubs the Algarve recalling this some years later and I .... you not, the same band came on and the collection was again passed around. I suppose being in the themed pub and hearing the band warm up prompted the recollection but what were the odds of it being the same musicians!!?? 


 


These days this is the most authentic inner city Irish pub I know of - smack in the middle of the Brummie Irish quarter in Digbeth. 


 


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Arrabbiata1
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.... - you're a braver man than me!!!


 


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I remember you posting the crest...worth putting up again Rog!


 


I used to drink in Kilburn and South of the river in Stockwell during the late '80s and the bucket used to regularly circulate. A band used to always play in association with this of a similar ilk to The Dubliners. I was in one of those dreadful Plastic Paddy pubs the Algarve recalling this some years later and I .... you not, the same band came on and the collection was again passed around. I suppose being in the themed pub and hearing the band warm up prompted the recollection but what were the odds of it being the same musicians!!?? 


 


These days this is the most authentic inner city Irish pub I know of - smack in the middle of the Brummie Irish quarter in Digbeth. 


 


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/preview/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x4870bc87484b5c37:0x7d65d9e0ccdbb478!2m5!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i100!3m1!7e1!4shttps://plus.google.com/118169686622232943161/photos?hl%3Den%26socfid%3Dweb:lu:kp:placepageimage%26socpid%3D1!5sThe+Big+Bulls+HEad+-+Google+Search&sa=X&ei=i9-DUqvLIca07QaTqoCgDg&ved=0CJ0BEKIqMBA


Never knew Digbeth was the Irish quarter of Brum.  As a young man I spent many an evening stage diving at Digbeth Civic Hall.
 
Garbin
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Never knew Digbeth was the Irish quarter of Brum.  As a young man I spent many an evening stage diving at Digbeth Civic Hall.


Ha - it's now the HMV Institute. Saw Johnny Marr there earlier this year as a matter of fact. In fact if you enlarge the picture of 'The Big Bulls Head' you can see a Subway, and faintly just make out the entrance to the Institute next door to it
 
chopperman
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That's Londonderry arrab ! lol. I don't profess to be pure English as genes go. My grandmother (mothers side) was Scottish (clan Mcloud) which makes me the Crest of the chiefs as i'm first male . Because of this pete and me are joined by blood as clansmen. I also have Irish (great grandfather mothers side) and Italian (great grandmother) from fathers side. I was born in England as was my mother and father and 3 out of 4 grand parents. I call myself English, not Irish or Scottish and definitely not Italian lol. Yet these American plastic Irish can only trace back Irish roots 7 generations back yet are proud irish and even raising funds "for the cause".


 


True story, Rog is fom the Skye MacLeods, and I am from the Skye MacNicols. The MacNicols are a sept of the Macleods, ie a smaller clan that followed the larger clan, went into battle together etc. Travel north from Skye, and you will eventually arrive in the Isle of Lewis, seat of the MacSheene clan, and Barry's ancestors. Another amazing fact. Me Rog and Barry are almost related. Sadl7, niether me or Rog can skid a motorbike like Barry.
 
basspete
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True story, Rog is fom the Skye MacLeods, and I am from the Skye MacNicols. The MacNicols are a sept of the Macleods, ie a smaller clan that followed the larger clan, went into battle together etc. Travel north from Skye, and you will eventually arrive in the Isle of Lewis, seat of the MacSheene clan, and Barry's ancestors. Another amazing fact. Me Rog and Barry are almost related. Sadl7, niether me or Rog can skid a motorbike like Barry.


..and sadder still, earlier in this thread rather perplexingly Barry seemed to be suffering from yet another episode of amnesia. 


 


 
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Arrabbiata1
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http://www.poms.ac.uk/  


 


Your ancestry and heritage it would also appear!


 


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BarryMachine
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oh I see your mistake, no Scottish ancestry here, and by pomm I mean brit. like you ....... 
 
chopperman
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Putting together a list of famous people is not a country culture hahahaha, if anything that proves my point about america making theirs up. Cultures are made of many many years of its people ways, view and traditions. America had no people of its own, even the indibums came from the Caribbean i've read. America is made up of people from all corners of the earth who started to settled there a few hundred years ago. America takes the pieces of those cultures they like or think looks cool, rolls it all together and ends up with a right fruit salad of a culture. England is going the same way, once a rich culture that's now so diluted by the influx of immigrants. Their culture to be celebrated while ours is hidden into obscurity. I say England as the Scotish, Irish and the largely ignored Welsh are ALLOWED to keep theirs.


 


...., Rog, England is the Ke$ha of cultural and genetic insemination.  The Romans, Vikings, Krauts and others have all taken turns over the last few thousand years.  Hell, even the Frogs had a go at your women, as I recall.  Does the fact that most of this happened scores of generations ago, rather than a dozen or so, somehow make English culture more of an official standard?


 


Brown people settled North America during an ice age umpteen thousand years ago, when world's oceans were much lower.  They migrated across the dry Bering Straight in much the same manner as they strolled across the Channel.


 


As for the immigrants taking over everything, try to take the long view.  A few years back, I was talking to a Navajo guy when he used the phrase, "dominant culture" to describe the current state of America.  Remember, it was only a little over 100 years ago that his people were running the store here in the US Southwest.  His term subtly leaves the door open for a number of interpretations, but he may as well have said, "dominant culture...for today.  Just wait and see what happens."  Despite making a truly heroic effort, and enduring horrific losses and sacrifices...


 


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...the NA natives lost the culture war and were largely eradicated and/or assimilated.


 


Funny thing, history.  As the saying goes, "The worm turns."  Now it's the US that's being effectively invaded by a different mob of brown skins.  Even if we installed a flaming moat across every international border, the higher birthrate of the ......., Chinks, Flips, etc. who are already here will eventually tilt the demographic balance away from us white folks.


 


The same thing's happening to Mother England.  For centuries, you guys ran amok, installing puppet government all over the frigging world.  You forcibly 'shared' your genes and culture with the world, and took untold wealth in exchange.  Now Karma is paying you back.


 


You may as well roll with it, Rog, there's damn little you can do.  Also keep in mind that everything is cyclic. Sooner or later the tide will turn again, and you guys will again be calling the shots (possibly in Farsi, but that's another story.  :) )
 

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Arrabbiata1
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Britain has seen invasions by the Romans; a wave of successive Germanic settlement by the Saxons, Angles and Jutes; Viking and Nordic incursion - chiefly the Danes; The Norman Conquest - and although this had huge influence on the language - there is strong evidence to suggest that much of it  barely made a ripple on the gene pool and indeed many English can be traced back to Neolithic Hunter Gatherers.


 


A. I meanwhile am a complete celt...(at least I think that's what they told me).


 


On the Welsh side my ancestors can be traced back to ancient settlements around Ceredigion (Welsh is the oldest language in Britain - approximately 4,000 years since it's earliest origins and amongst the oldest spoken languages in Europe.) http://www.discoverceredigion.co.uk/English/more/story/Pages/Hillforts-and-heroes.aspx


 


The other side is Nolan - a clan from the original O Nuallian. That side of the my family's earliest roots are traced back to the 12 century when various clans established a stronghold from the Normans in the Wicklow Mountains. Not sure before that, but that was how they came to settle in Dublin.


 


Not so romantic most would suppose, given that fate decreed that I was born in London and raised as an Englishman, but I totally agree with Rog's observation about plastic Irish, particularly in the U.S. where the most tenuous connection seems to be clung to a a passport to credibility...but tragically the English aren't immune to it either -


 


http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/how-to-pretend-to-be-irish-on-st-patricks-day


 


Off to Derry in a fortnight come to think of it.


A. Garbin beat me to it.


B. No argument there. Tho the truth of that doesn't support Rog's contention that the US has no unique culture of it's own.
 
Arrabbiata1
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It was supposed to be subtly insinuated not telegraphed - Garbin, I'm disappointed at you...I'd be forgiven for thinking you were from the U.S. yourself if I didn't know better. Been watching too many ......' Adam Sandler films lately? Kesh, there's another for your list! a fine example of American culture alongside, Mel Brookes, Chevy Chase and National Lampoons.


No worse than Benny Hill - eh?
 
Dr No
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Really?

Maybe it was them who tried to dig him up?


My dad worked in the probation service and knows who tried to dig him up lol. I say tried as they only got so deep before the smell stopped them digging further. Benny hill used to live about a mile from me as a crow flys.
 

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