2025 Barcelona preseason test thread

[p4p1]

MM I suspect neither needed nor wanted to go for a dominant time as Stoner would have done, but I would have liked to see it anyway.

As a Stoner tragic his first few laps on the Honda at the Jerez post season test in 2010 were one of the best things ever, particularly with Valentino realising simultaneously on the 2010 Ducati that he was totally screwed. My satisfaction back then was more with what Casey had demonstrated to the Valeban than to Valentino with whom I had much less of a problem at that point in time.

I think this was something he learnt from 2015. IIRC he dominated the 2015 test, particularly the race simulations but as we saw in 2015, the bike was not where it needed to be.

 

[#22]

He also said Ducati themselves had a regimented test schedule. He and Pecco did pretty much the least laps today.

 

[p4p1]

He also said Ducati themselves had a regimented test schedule. He and Pecco did pretty much the least laps today.

I did find that interesting.
I expected MM particularly to do a lot of back to backing between multiple machines.
Maybe today there will be a heap more laps from the Ducati boys changing between the 24, 24/25 hybrid and the 25.

 

[p4p1]

Is there a testing advantage for Ducti using Pirro on DiGi's bike? IE because DiGi is injured their test rider is just a replacement rider rather than the official test rider in red, like Aprilia, among others used?

 

[Sennas_Caress]

Right but its not like this test came out of nowhere. They could have been prepared to let their factory guys test this week. Its two days lost regardless of future tests.

One day, and according to Marini, he tested a lot of new parts, that HRC had made for the new bike. Zarco also talked about a 'new bike'.
Puig also talked about how much they've been testing during the year, so they don't need to have a completely new bike ready for this test, and they instead had lots of parts to test that will give a direction for the factory during the winter.

Maybe HRC would rather not let anyone see just what they are up to, or just an alternative approach?

 

[Barbedwirebikerr]

Maybe HRC would rather not let anyone see just what they are up to, or just an alternative approach?

I feel this might be the case. HRC not showing any major development. But, they have done not a great deal throughout the year. Mir was pretty down publically on having nothing new to test.

 

[mikesbytes]

Now I'm on my laptop, can grab some screenshots easier:

Marc. Not sure if this is a GP25 or 24. Simon Crafar was saying one way to tell is the clutch slave cylinder, which we cannot see.

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Alex on a GP24

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Ogura on the Aprilia

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Vinales on the KTM
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Chantra on the LCR Honda

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Franco on the very yellow VR46

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Miller on the Pramac Yamaha

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Miller Taxi LOL

Did Crafer mention that Ducati are using the engine as a partial stressed member?

 

[#22]

I did find that interesting.
I expected MM particularly to do a lot of back to backing between multiple machines.
Maybe today there will be a heap more laps from the Ducati boys changing between the 24, 24/25 hybrid and the 25.

It's only a 1 day test.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

One day, and according to Marini, he tested a lot of new parts, that HRC had made for the new bike. Zarco also talked about a 'new bike'.
Puig also talked about how much they've been testing during the year, so they don't need to have a completely new bike ready for this test, and they instead had lots of parts to test that will give a direction for the factory during the winter.

Maybe HRC would rather not let anyone see just what they are up to, or just an alternative approach?

When you are by far the worst bike on the grid there is no reason to take a private approach. No one is going to copy them. I swear to god when they show up with the motorcycle version of a cyber truck I'm going to piss my pants laughing. Sure Marini talked of new parts and Zarco a new bike but they brought none of that to the first official test. Which made their highest paid rider mad. Its pathetic and ........ excuses that they offer in response to this. They can't afford to not try new things. Marc looks like ....... Nostradamus for leaving when he did. If I was Mir I'd say call me when you have something new. Until then I'll save my leathers from getting road rash. Why should Mir test if Honda is not testing anything?

 

[#22]

Here is a good shot of the GP25 chassis that Simon Crafar was talking about. It is super thin longitudinally to help with flex while corning, but much thicker vertically to retain stiffness/stability under braking.

This was on Pirro's VR46 bike that will become Diggia's when he returns from injury.

 

[#22]

Ominous news for the rest of the grid.

Bagnaia: New Ducati GP25 a “huge” step forward from 2024 MotoGP bike​

Bagnaia: New Ducati GP25 a “huge” step forward from 2024 MotoGP bike

 

[#22]

$100 bucks says Mav wins the Championship

“It’s fast!” Maverick Vinales felt good “from the out lap” on KTM MotoGP debut

The Pre season testing championship.

 

[PRS717]

This might be a dumb question but is it customary for the newly-crowned champion to wear the gold helmet during testing? I thought they’d want to keep that in pristine condition.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

This might be a dumb question but is it customary for the newly-crowned champion to wear the gold helmet during testing? I thought they’d want to keep that in pristine condition.

I'm sure they have more than one. I remember when JLo wore his bedazzled helmet in the last race of the season after wrapping the title up the weekend before. Marco Simoncelli sent those jewels flying in one of the corners.

 

[Keshav]

It's only a 1 day test.

Thanks for that. Did anyone find a link on the MotoGp site for a "video" of the test? Had to be out of the house early yesterday and couldn't catch it live. There's an image on the site that says MotoGp testing but it only navigates to the race from Sunday.

BTW - Holy ....! Crafar wasn't kidding when he said that part of the frame was thin.

 

[PRS717]

Thanks for that. Did anyone find a link on the MotoGp site for a "video" of the test? Had to be out of the house early yesterday and couldn't catch it live. There's an image on the site that says MotoGp testing but it only navigates to the race from Sunday.

BTW - Holy ....! Crafar wasn't kidding when he said that part of the frame was thin.

I started watching it last night. I did not find a clear path to it though. They had 2-3 minute video highlights but to get the complete test, I had to use the search box. I believe Annoying Twit posted he could not find it using the search box but I think that was much earlier in the day. It can take a little time before they get live feeds uploaded for consumption after the fact. There is a total of 6 hours of coverage. I only made it 1 hour before retiring for the night.

 

[Saffa]

If I was Mir I'd say call me when you have something new. Until then I'll save my leathers from getting road rash. Why should Mir test if Honda is not testing anything?

That makes me think... what was his helmet and leathers bill for this year!? He obviously doesn't pay for it, but it would still be interesting to know.

 

[#22]

That makes me think... what was his helmet and leathers bill for this year!? He obviously doesn't pay for it, but it would still be interesting to know.

Yes

 

[michaelm]

I started watching it last night. I did not find a clear path to it though. They had 2-3 minute video highlights but to get the complete test, I had to use the search box. I believe Annoying Twit posted he could not find it using the search box but I think that was much earlier in the day. It can take a little time before they get live feeds uploaded for consumption after the fact. There is a total of 6 hours of coverage. I only made it 1 hour before retiring for the night.

The Fox sports coverage in Australia basically had the whole thing live with a 1 hour lunch break. Problem was that they basically broadcast the MotoGP.com coverage which meant Birt whom I can’t abide for hours on end except for his lunch break. I had it on for quite a while in the background with sound off while I did other things, but saw a fair bit of it. I didn’t bother with my motogp.com membership because it was available through my pay TV anyway.

 

[JPSLotus]

I have to say, I much prefer the shade of red MM had on his Ducati.

Wish they would use that instead of the dark shade of red they currently use. Looks way better in the light.