Pedrosa shoulder....

#22 · Mar 24, 2011

My mate posted this on his facebook status last night:

Looks like Pedrosa may be out of Moto GP for a while. Brachial plexus injury = possibility of paralysis in neck/shoulder area. Gutted, was looking forward to Stoner/Pedrosa/Dovisioso/Simoncelli at Honda this year

I thought 'wtf?', especially as there was nothing on here about it when I checked, anyway turns out its true. Not sure if he is going to have to miss some races or not but I hope he can continue and be a challenge even though I don't like the guy much, would hate for this season to be a parade.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90113

Dani Pedrosa has been told that the shoulder injury he sustained in a crash in the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, last October, was the cause of the numbness and lack of strength in the opening round this year's championship in Qatar last weekend and that it still requires more time to heal.

The Spaniard led the race early on before fading to third as he began to suffer discomfort in his left arm.

The 25-year-old underwent a 3D CAT scan upon his return from Doha which revealed that while there was no vascular or nerve damage, there was a small stretch in the plexus that requires time to heal fully.

Pedrosa, whose HRC Honda team-mate Casey Stoner won the race, admitted that he was disappointed to have begun yet another season not at full fitness - having previously thought he was beginning the year on equal terms to his rivals healthwise.

"I honestly didn't expect my arm would react in this way because during pre-season I didn't feel too much trouble and I thought the problem was solved," he said. "However, I felt really bad in the Qatar race and was aware that the injury is not completely healed.

"It was a shame because in Qatar I had a good feeling and until the second half of the race - which is when the pain started - I was really strong and I saw a realistic chance of winning.

"I would be lying if I said I'm not disappointed because this year the bike is working very well and physically I feel good, but unfortunately this complication has arisen and I have nothing else to do but give my best until the injury heals completely."

I wonder why this has only cropped up now?? Unless it shows you how much harder they go in racing than in testing....

ptk50 · Mar 24, 2011

#22 said:
My mate posted this on his facebook status last night:

Looks like Pedrosa may be out of Moto GP for a while. Brachial plexus injury = possibility of paralysis in neck/shoulder area. Gutted, was looking forward to Stoner/Pedrosa/Dovisioso/Simoncelli at Honda this year

I thought 'wtf?', especially as there was nothing on here about it when I checked, anyway turns out its true. Not sure if he is going to have to miss some races or not but I hope he can continue and be a challenge even though I don't like the guy much, would hate for this season to be a parade.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90113

Dani Pedrosa has been told that the shoulder injury he sustained in a crash in the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, last October, was the cause of the numbness and lack of strength in the opening round this year's championship in Qatar last weekend and that it still requires more time to heal.

The Spaniard led the race early on before fading to third as he began to suffer discomfort in his left arm.

The 25-year-old underwent a 3D CAT scan upon his return from Doha which revealed that while there was no vascular or nerve damage, there was a small stretch in the plexus that requires time to heal fully.

Pedrosa, whose HRC Honda team-mate Casey Stoner won the race, admitted that he was disappointed to have begun yet another season not at full fitness - having previously thought he was beginning the year on equal terms to his rivals healthwise.

"I honestly didn't expect my arm would react in this way because during pre-season I didn't feel too much trouble and I thought the problem was solved," he said. "However, I felt really bad in the Qatar race and was aware that the injury is not completely healed.

"It was a shame because in Qatar I had a good feeling and until the second half of the race - which is when the pain started - I was really strong and I saw a realistic chance of winning.

"I would be lying if I said I'm not disappointed because this year the bike is working very well and physically I feel good, but unfortunately this complication has arisen and I have nothing else to do but give my best until the injury heals completely."

I wonder why this has only cropped up now?? Unless it shows you how much harder they go in racing than in testing....

Let's see - so far there's no reason to disbelieve the link - real Bummer if he misses races - No doubt the self appointed MD's in the forum will be weighing in with their personal expert diagnosis - ranging from poor Pedders to chicken .... just can't win races. 16 bike grid - crap ....... and just one race down - good thing that Hopper can get on the Sook

BarryMachine · Mar 24, 2011

Can't say its a revelation:

http://www.powerslide.net/forum/ind...615&hl=+pedrosa +shoulder +&fromsearch=1&#top

and I'm sure it came up in the testing threads when folk were talking as to why Pedrosa was 2nd quickest on individual lap times but fell back when he did long runs.

Hope he gets over it.

povol · Mar 24, 2011

#22 said:
My mate posted this on his facebook status last night:

Looks like Pedrosa may be out of Moto GP for a while. Brachial plexus injury = possibility of paralysis in neck/shoulder area. Gutted, was looking forward to Stoner/Pedrosa/Dovisioso/Simoncelli at Honda this year

I thought 'wtf?', especially as there was nothing on here about it when I checked, anyway turns out its true. Not sure if he is going to have to miss some races or not but I hope he can continue and be a challenge even though I don't like the guy much, would hate for this season to be a parade.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90113

Dani Pedrosa has been told that the shoulder injury he sustained in a crash in the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix, last October, was the cause of the numbness and lack of strength in the opening round this year's championship in Qatar last weekend and that it still requires more time to heal.

The Spaniard led the race early on before fading to third as he began to suffer discomfort in his left arm.

The 25-year-old underwent a 3D CAT scan upon his return from Doha which revealed that while there was no vascular or nerve damage, there was a small stretch in the plexus that requires time to heal fully.

Pedrosa, whose HRC Honda team-mate Casey Stoner won the race, admitted that he was disappointed to have begun yet another season not at full fitness - having previously thought he was beginning the year on equal terms to his rivals healthwise.

"I honestly didn't expect my arm would react in this way because during pre-season I didn't feel too much trouble and I thought the problem was solved," he said. "However, I felt really bad in the Qatar race and was aware that the injury is not completely healed.

"It was a shame because in Qatar I had a good feeling and until the second half of the race - which is when the pain started - I was really strong and I saw a realistic chance of winning.

"I would be lying if I said I'm not disappointed because this year the bike is working very well and physically I feel good, but unfortunately this complication has arisen and I have nothing else to do but give my best until the injury heals completely."

I wonder why this has only cropped up now?? Unless it shows you how much harder they go in racing than in testing....

Where in that article did your mate come to the conclusion that Dani would miss races, and risked paralysis of neck and shoulder

#22 · Mar 24, 2011

No where, but he's a bit of a drama queen pov

Jumkie · Mar 24, 2011

ptk50 said:
Let's see - so far there's no reason to disbelieve the link - real Bummer if he misses races - No doubt the self appointed MD's in the forum will be weighing in with their personal expert diagnosis - ranging from poor Pedders to chicken .... just can't win races. 16 bike grid - crap ....... and just one race down - good thing that Hopper can get on the Sook

Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury.

Looks like Stoner got another gift win.

Newsflash, most all the riders are competing with some kind of injury. You guys think that Aoyama's back is completely healed, or Randy's leg (which he might have re-injured) or Capirossi's hand, or Crutchlow's finger, I'm sure Nicky's hand which was going numb last year is still an issue. Why so much hype over one or two having shoulder injury? Yes, its sucks, its bad, its lessens the competition, and unfortunately they have to race with pain. But I don't doubt for a minute, sometimes a rider may be tempted to use it as a crutch for PR purpose. I'm not sure if Dani is, but I wouldn't put it past his "management" to hype it up to explain his race. Honestly, Dani had mentioned something about it before in a report, so I have a tendency to belive him on this one (though its rather odd it didn't manifest itself during testing, but racing is of course a much more intense activity). That's my cynical side talking. And of course, I don't doubt other's may use it to explain other performance results. I think Rossi may have tainted the use of injuries to explain performance. Last year we didn't hear much about it, but only selectively when a poor performance had to be explained. But then again, that may go hand in hand, so its still just a speculation from afar.

povol · Mar 24, 2011

Jumkie said:
Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury.

Looks like Stoner got another gift win.

Newsflash, most all the riders are competing with some kind of injury. You guys think that Aoyama's back is completely healed, or Randy's leg (which he might have re-injured) or Capirossi's hand, or Crutchlow's finger, I'm sure Nicky's hand which was going numb last year is still an issue. Why so much hype over one or two having shoulder injury? Yes, its sucks, its bad, its lessens the competition, and unfortunately they have to race with pain. But I don't doubt for a minute, sometimes a rider may be tempted to use it as a crutch for PR purpose. I'm not sure if Dani is, but I wouldn't put it past his "management" to hype it up to explain his race. Honestly, Dani had mentioned something about it before in a report, so I have a tendency to belive him on this one (though its rather odd it didn't manifest itself during testing, but racing is of course a much more intense activity). That's my cynical side talking. And of course, I don't doubt other's may use it to explain other performance results. I think Rossi may have tainted the use of injuries to explain performance. Last year we didn't hear much about it, but only selectively when a poor performance had to be explained. But then again, that may go hand in hand, so its still just a speculation from afar.

It wont be long , before the races, you will see riders kicking the .... out of a brick wall so they can say their foot hurt if their performance is not up to par.

dwoodhouse · Mar 24, 2011

Everyone is so cynical about everything. Have you been burnt in the past or something? It's as though if you ran into Rossi or Pedrosa tomorrow you would call them both liars, soft and no ticker.

esco · Mar 24, 2011

I guess the bs that was posted by some about him not trying once he got passed by Stoner and Jorge will calm down now. Thanks for the link and hope he gets well soon.

Jumkie · Mar 24, 2011

woody996 said:
Everyone is so cynical about everything. Have you been burnt in the past or something? It's as though if you ran into Rossi or Pedrosa tomorrow you would call them both liars, soft and no ticker.

Ah selective. Did you tell this to the Bops who called ........ on Stoner?

Yes, cynical, I admit it, maybe even exaggerated and contemptuous too (perhaps a flaw of mine). But its not like its comes from nowhere. Guess who currently on the grid is known for saying one thing but meaning another....I'll await your answer.

povol · Mar 24, 2011

woody996 said:
Everyone is so cynical about everything. Have you been burnt in the past or something? It's as though if you ran into Rossi or Pedrosa tomorrow you would call them both liars, soft and no ticker.

Then i would punch them in the shoulder just to make sure.

Jumkie · Mar 24, 2011

esco said:
I guess the bs that was posted by some about him not trying once he got passed by Stoner and Jorge will calm down now. Thanks for the link and hope he gets well soon.

Well buddy, I guess it takes time for some of us to learn the truth when presented with a myth, like thinking Casey's success was due to TC (like you did at one time) regardless that it was a as you put it above "BS".

Selective mythbusting buddy?

ptk50 · Mar 24, 2011

Jumkie said:
Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury.

Looks like Stoner got another gift win.

Newsflash, most all the riders are competing with some kind of injury. You guys think that Aoyama's back is completely healed, or Randy's leg (which he might have re-injured) or Capirossi's hand, or Crutchlow's finger, I'm sure Nicky's hand which was going numb last year is still an issue. Why so much hype over one or two having shoulder injury? Yes, its sucks, its bad, its lessens the competition, and unfortunately they have to race with pain. But I don't doubt for a minute, sometimes a rider may be tempted to use it as a crutch for PR purpose. I'm not sure if Dani is, but I wouldn't put it past his "management" to hype it up to explain his race. Honestly, Dani had mentioned something about it before in a report, so I have a tendency to belive him on this one (though its rather odd it didn't manifest itself during testing, but racing is of course a much more intense activity). That's my cynical side talking. And of course, I don't doubt other's may use it to explain other performance results. I think Rossi may have tainted the use of injuries to explain performance. Last year we didn't hear much about it, but only selectively when a poor performance had to be explained. But then again, that may go hand in hand, so its still just a speculation from afar.

Jumkie,

sometimes you post good stuff - then sometimes you just invent crap like this

"Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury. "

You've got BOpping on the brain - I made no comparisons just said it would be bad if he missed races - you've obviously never been physically injured - but that doesn't stop you from being an expert on the subject -

Jumkie · Mar 24, 2011

ptk50 said:
Jumkie,

sometimes you post good stuff - then sometimes you just invent crap like this

"Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury. "

You've got BOpping on the brain - I made no comparisons just said it would be bad if he missed races - you've obviously never been physically injured - but that doesn't stop you from being an expert on the subject -

ah come on Ptk, we are firends now, can't I get a rise out of you? hahaha

I know, but the Neil Hodgson thing was real, there was a thread where somebody (can't remember who, but surely some bopper) started comparing the shoulder injury of Neil to Vale. Its ridiculous to think all shoulder injuries are created equal. To clarify, I said it would be used by some bopper, like you, not saying you used it. Dif. Anyway, I'm also messing with you, as you can see, I got under Rob's skin today. And I was just having a go.

dwoodhouse · Mar 24, 2011

Jumkie said:
Ah selective. Did you tell this to the Bops who called ........ on Stoner?

Yes, cynical, I admit it, maybe even exaggerated and contemptuous too (perhaps a flaw of mine). But its not like its comes from nowhere. Guess who currently on the grid is known for saying one thing but meaning another....I'll await your answer.

Ok fair enough. I never had any issues with the scaphoid injury, broken bones make sense to me. Stomach issue I was less accommodating - bit like my sisters whenever it was that time of the month. One made a big deal out of it and pissed me off to no end, the other just got on with it therefore my conclusion was that one was just a whinger. In hindsight I don't really know if it was whinging or whether she just had it worse than the other sister. I have always had more scepticism for those sorts of issues.

Back to broken bones - I've broken one or two playing footy, understand the injuries a lot more and to me, the impact is a lot less subjective however right or wrong that conclusion may be.

lil red rocket pilot · Mar 24, 2011

Well folks my piece goes like this.

I hope it is not too serious to keep Dani out or (for arguments sake too slow)

To give honda an excuse to drop back to a two repsol team.

Andy Roo · Mar 24, 2011

Jumkie said:
Well I didn't read where it says he'll miss races. But I'm sure this will be used by Boppers like you (who use the ridiculous Neil Hodgson shoulder injury comparison) to give yourself support for Rossi's injury.

Looks like Stoner got another gift win.

Newsflash, most all the riders are competing with some kind of injury. You guys think that Aoyama's back is completely healed, or Randy's leg (which he might have re-injured) or Capirossi's hand, or Crutchlow's finger, I'm sure Nicky's hand which was going numb last year is still an issue. Why so much hype over one or two having shoulder injury? Yes, its sucks, its bad, its lessens the competition, and unfortunately they have to race with pain. But I don't doubt for a minute, sometimes a rider may be tempted to use it as a crutch for PR purpose. I'm not sure if Dani is, but I wouldn't put it past his "management" to hype it up to explain his race. Honestly, Dani had mentioned something about it before in a report, so I have a tendency to belive him on this one (though its rather odd it didn't manifest itself during testing, but racing is of course a much more intense activity). That's my cynical side talking. And of course, I don't doubt other's may use it to explain other performance results. I think Rossi may have tainted the use of injuries to explain performance. Last year we didn't hear much about it, but only selectively when a poor performance had to be explained. But then again, that may go hand in hand, so its still just a speculation from afar.

The funny thing is, there is a consistent voice on the thread that will point out Casey has fallen off a lot.

Now unless he has found the magical fields of cotton wool balls to fall off in all the time he would be carrying some hurts and injuries as well.

As a matter of fact, when racing motorcycles nearly everyone is carrying some degree of injury. Especially in motogp.

Of course they are all impacted upon to varying degrees but this is just a part of it.

I like the fact that Lorenzo was happy coming second and didn't complain about a particularly nasty external thrombosed hemorrhoid or dandruff or something.

For Dani...he's had a lot of time on the factory Honda team without a title...big cost saving there. He may be in their sights.

esco · Mar 24, 2011

Jumkie said:
Well buddy, I guess it takes time for some of us to learn the truth when presented with a myth, like thinking Casey's success was due to TC (like you did at one time) regardless that it was a as you put it above "BS".

Selective mythbusting buddy?

First of all we were talking about PEDROSA here and not Stoner. Oh and where did you get Pedrosas arm problem being a myth? I thought youd know by now he had surgery done.

second, Jums can you please point me to The thread were i stated Stoner won because of TC...thanks.

Jumkie · Mar 24, 2011

esco said:
First of all we were talking about PEDROSA here and not Stoner. Oh and where did you get Pedrosas arm problem being a myth? I thought youd know by now he had surgery done.

second, Jums can you please point me to The thread were i stated Stoner won because of TC...thanks.

Dont go changing what i said. R u denying u said it? What will i get in return when i show u? (assuming u wont go back an edit)

esco · Mar 24, 2011

Hermano I don't play games. If I said It then I'll apologize cause I don't believe the tc bs to be the truth. He's an amazing talent and the best to look at when on the edged.

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