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Pedrosa Doesn't Deserve 2nd Place

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Evolution @ Nov 8 2007, 06:04 AM) [snapback]99546[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I thought this thread was about Dani not Rossi? Get a life.


We are attempting to!!

Hence why we read more into it than you did.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Nov 7 2007, 03:33 PM) [snapback]99388[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm guessing Johnny knocekmdown is practising what is known as "satire" or even "irony".
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His post smacks of the denial of Haydens Win of 2006 ..... perhaps he is subtlely "rubbing the noses in" of those who said simillar about Nicky in 2006??
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... .. Of which I might add that I am not party too!! Hayden won fair and square by me ... as too did Dani..

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So it may in fact be a dig at the Rossi fans ?? And a subtle backing of Dani.

Who was the guy who just "pipped' Rossi last year? Hayden ...... he got comments like Johnyknockdowns.

Who was the guy wo just "pipped" Rossi this year? Dani ......



or was your reply "satire" too??

Satire requires the notions being put forward to be so prolific as to be ludicrous ...... or a spoof of a previous situation maybe ....
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Naturally next year it will be said about whoever takes say 4th or 5th from Rossi .... but by that stage the joke will be seen as being "done to death"
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Yes guys it was just a joke.
After being such a hot debate last year I found it odd that noone
applied the same (il)logic to Dani getting second place. After all
the circumstances are similar. It seems that getting lucky only
applies to first place.
I think it's funny that some are so jaded to absurd posts that they
couldn't see it as sarcasm.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Nov 8 2007, 04:06 AM) [snapback]99612[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
deep down the americans know that nicky dont have the talent of pedrosa.


he has bigger balls tho thats why dani wears bikini's
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Nov 8 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]99612[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
deep down the americans know that nicky dont have the talent of pedrosa.


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..... well the numbers show otherwise at present .....

World Motogp Championships:

Hayden = 1
Pedrosa = 0

But nonetheless I would take nothing away from either rider. Its just some of the fans interpretations of the facts that is ....... "creative"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JohnnyKnockdown @ Nov 8 2007, 02:18 PM) [snapback]99605[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yes guys it was just a joke.
After being such a hot debate last year I found it odd that noone
applied the same (il)logic to Dani getting second place. After all
the circumstances are similar. It seems that getting lucky only
applies to first place.
I think it's funny that some are so jaded to absurd posts that they
couldn't see it as sarcasm.


And a well taken joke by many ..... but as with all jokes involving satire .... there will always be those who fail to see the precedent. Its the phsychological reason behind this that creates the "jaded" fan, so I doubt that they will ever "get it".
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Nov 8 2007, 04:18 AM) [snapback]99615[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
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..... well the numbers show otherwise at present .....

World Motogp Championships:

Hayden = 1
Pedrosa = 0



If we are simply comparing Dani to Nicky with nobody else considered then you will find that Dani has scored more points in the time they have shared in motogp. Both on the same bike, in the same team, no excuses. And I'm a Hayden fan.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 8 2007, 04:25 AM) [snapback]99629[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If we are simply comparing Dani to Nicky with nobody else considered then you will find that Dani has scored more points in the time they have shared in motogp. Both on the same bike, in the same team, no excuses. And I'm a Hayden fan.


I don't think you can apply that to this year. Or even last year. The 800 was designed around Pedrosa, not Hayden. Last year Hayden had the clutch issues that Pedrosa did not have....If they were the same bike, they would have the same issues, no? I too am a Hayden fan, but more so a fan of racing. I really wish all the factory bikes were equal and we could honestly see who was the better rider of the factory riders.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(machmanzx10r @ Nov 8 2007, 09:34 AM) [snapback]99632[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If they were the same bike, they would have the same issues, no?

Although i did overlook the difference in the bikes last year (thanks for the correction) i think that only stands to balance out the so called advantage that Dani has had this year. I am confident the opertunities have been equal.

As for the same bike having the same issues, i'll say no. The clutch issues Hayden suffered where a result of his riding style, and a smooth rider like Dani would almost certainly not have suffered (he even had the troubled clutch is his bike).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 8 2007, 04:27 AM) [snapback]99562[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
cscvaw has hijacked louise's account
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Nov 8 2007, 04:32 AM) [snapback]99564[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
God forgive me for typing like that.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IsraeliRacer @ Nov 7 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]99577[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
.....So little recognition of sarcasm and irony in some peoples posts, even after it was pointed out
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where's Jumkie when you need him?



HMMM - what would jumkie say i wonder ?

OH - yeah - "Grow some skin........"
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Where is the little fat donut eater anyway ?
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does anyone hear from him ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(baldylocks @ Nov 8 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]99700[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
HMMM - what would jumkie say i wonder ?

OH - yeah - "Grow some skin........"
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Where is the little fat donut eater anyway ?
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does anyone hear from him ?


jumkie likes extremes.... when he goes, no one has an idea...when he's around, he makes sure everybody knows it
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(baldylocks @ Nov 8 2007, 08:06 PM) [snapback]99700[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
HMMM - what would jumkie say i wonder ?

OH - yeah - "Grow some skin........"
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Where is the little fat donut eater anyway ?
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does anyone hear from him ?


so i wasn't the only one wondering where jumkie is... hahaha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(baldylocks @ Nov 8 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]99700[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
HMMM - what would jumkie say i wonder ?

OH - yeah - "Grow some skin........"
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Where is the little fat donut eater anyway ?
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does anyone hear from him ?

yeah, i keep in touch with <strike>charlie sheene</strike>, i mean jumkie
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think he is working hard in between putting out fires. hopping to hook up with him next year for lugna seca. looking for cheep flights to LA, any ideas anyone ??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 8 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]99704[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
looking for cheep flights to LA, any ideas anyone ??


If you have enough money in your account anything can look cheap comparitively. I suggest robbing a bank.
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Or selling drugs.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roger-m @ Nov 8 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]99704[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
yeah, i keep in touch with <strike>charlie sheene</strike>, i mean jumkie
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think he is working hard in between putting out fires. hopping to hook up with him next year for lugna seca. looking for cheep flights to LA, any ideas anyone ??


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...uhm...all i know is..............

start swimming now?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Nov 8 2007, 04:18 AM) [snapback]99615[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

World Motogp Championships:

Hayden = 1
Pedrosa = 0


Actually Pedrosa has won 2 more championships in MotoGP then Hayden, but how many years exactly has Nicky been on a Repsol for? I've lost count. This was only Dani's second season in the class and Honda really screwed up this year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(machmanzx10r @ Nov 8 2007, 01:34 AM) [snapback]99632[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
. Last year Hayden had the clutch issues that Pedrosa did not have....If they were the same bike, they would have the same issues, no?
thats becuase Nicky rides his honda as if it were a tractor. Even this year, he is only guy who blew a honda engine.. When is the last time Honda even blew and engine? Honda has got 7 bikes and the grid and Nicky's the only one who has problems with his bike.

Honda was bending over backwards to accomodate his needs in 2006, which is why they did not have enough resources to develop the 800cc bike which ended up being so crappy at the beginning of the year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JohnnyKnockdown @ Nov 8 2007, 03:18 AM) [snapback]99605[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yes guys it was just a joke.
After being such a hot debate last year I found it odd that noone
applied the same (il)logic to Dani getting second place. After all
the circumstances are similar. It seems that getting lucky only
applies to first place.
I think it's funny that some are so jaded to absurd posts that they
couldn't see it as sarcasm.


im glad you said that, at first i thought you were an arrogant ....., then i thought well, this seems more like a wind up, then others had responded seriously so i went back to thinking you were just another ........
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good post
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crvlvr @ Nov 8 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]99794[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
thats becuase Nicky rides his honda as if it were a tractor. Even this year, he is only guy who blew a honda engine.. When is the last time Honda even blew and engine? Honda has got 7 bikes and the grid and Nicky's the only one who has problems with his bike.


Stop talking out of your ....

Toni, Shinya and a few other Honda's have had huge blow-ups.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Nov 8 2007, 12:01 PM) [snapback]99803[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Stop talking out of your ....

Toni, Shinya and a few other Honda's have had huge blow-ups.

Really
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. The american media only covers Nicky..
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