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Also, after the race, Rossi looked tired and affected, explaining something to his mechanics, pointing to his chin. Was that a cosa nostra sign, I wonder? Altough a very different man when he came to be interviewed in parc ferme, smiley and affable.

Very disingenuous as usual. Contrary to his specious spiel in fact this wasn't a "good result" and no he was not "very 'appy"...He was beaten by two championship rivals and was ....... bewildered as to why, given his chassis revision, Maverick was able to run the soft for the duration of the race.

Last time I recall a Repsol Honda letting go so spectacularly was when Nicky detonated the Pedrocycle at Sachsenring and Mamola (at the time an employee of British Eurosport) leapt over the barrier to retrieve the shards of valve shrapnel.
 
Last time I recall a Repsol Honda letting go so spectacularly was when Nicky detonated the Pedrocycle at Sachsenring and Mamola (at the time an employee of British Eurosport) leapt over the barrier to retrieve the shards of valve shrapnel.


I have a vague recollection of a HRC motor letting go in the CS/Pedro era as well but it was practice not race from memory.



Tracked it - Pedrosa at Sepang tests in 2012 - https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/engine-failure-sidelines-honda-riders-sepang/


Woohooo, 50 and the old memory aint faded yet :D
 
Maverick was able to run the soft for the duration of the race.

Reminiscent of Zarco in many races so far, not sure what he used this round. Maybe Vinales has given up looking at the other side of the garage and is instead learning from Tech 3.

I have to say Yamaha have struck gold with 2 brilliant rookies on board this year, certainly compared to Honda rookies they seam to be more leaders than the usual grid filler following the factory lead and crying about lack of updates. Amusing all the crying has been coming from usual suspect, who received updates but not the right ones dammit.

Lorenzo naturally is painted the biggest loser, it was amusing to wake up in the morning to a bunch of motogp spam concerning angry Lorenzo. Yet he keeps turning up to podium celebrations smiling away. A non-toxic atmosphere perhaps?
 
What was shaping up for Marquez to start the process of putting the title away in the next few races literally went up in smoke. He was in excellent shape in today's race as he had put Vinales away and was all over Dovi and both gaining on Rossi.Boom, How long has it been since Honda blew an engine during a race ?. I still think Marquez is going to pull it out but it's obvious that the Ducati threat is real. Ducati and Dovi are showing up week after week and being contenders for wins and podiums. As of right now, they have the most complete package which makes Gigi a ....... genius. What he has done with that team is nothing short of spectacular. I didn't get a chance to watch the race on a decent TV as the feed at Deals Gap motorcycle resort is not HD, unfuckingbeleivable. It looked like Dovi did not run the downforce nose cone and Lorenzo did, any reason given for it? I have not had a chance to read any rider quotes but I'm guessing Rossi is lamenting the ...... Yamaha's lack of grip even though his teammate made a softer option work the entire race. That's like 8- out of 9 times now that Vinales has beaten Rossi in races they both finished.
 
I think Marquez despite a bad result this weekend can still be pretty happy and confident. Aragon and Motegi coming up in the next 3 races. He will be a strong contender for the podium at Misano as well obviously and then PI despite being somewhat of a Bogey track for him(3 DNFs in 4 years) he has still been the fastest every time he has been there. I'm sure without any crashes the title is gong to come down to Valencia but I do believe that Marquez will head into Valencia with a comfortable lead.

Really it's showing where Rossi is this year though, Marquez has had two more DNFs than Rossi but is still 24 points in front. Strangely as consistent as Dovi has been and having won the most races Marquez is only 9 points down despite having two more DNFs.
 
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I agree with this gaz, well the second part. Let me add that Dovi complements JLo as a teammate as well. What ducati is building for JLo is helping Dovi but it is also giving Jorge the direction to success. JLo managed the race today, I have to think that was partly at least because of watching dovis success and doing what he does.
I've heard you mention this now a few times, I've kinda glossed over it because I mean ok, yeah Jorge looks happier, so what? You were one of the first to mention this in post race reactions, Jlo's demeanor at Ducati. I originally didn’t know how to process that actually, I mean ok, yeah I've argued he traded Yamaha's toxic environment for happier pasture; but at a high cost: a challenging bike effectively taking himself out of a legacy in terms of for-sure chance at the title. Was it a good tradeoff? Well, it may actually turn out to benefit Dovi, Ducati, and himself as you say.

Actually Dub, i had a thought about Nicky reading your post, given nice guy Dovi's win today, and it made me think. Follow me here.

The point about impact of teammates acting like 'teammates' in the conventional sense is something that is impossible to measure, and rare, its easy to overlook, but I agree with your point that Dovi and Lorenzo are experiencing a symbiotic relationship--that is, mutually beneficial. It is actually impacting the results. 2016 Lorenzo looked like a guy who was just told his dog died, wife screwed his best buddy, and was diagnosed with terminal erectile dysfunction. Now, you see him doing stuff that in motorsport is unusual, for example, celebrating with your teammate (your first rival) who has beat you. Jlo has certainly been publicly more at oeace, consistently owned up to his shortcomings, candid about his performance, and more importantly, continues to plug away.

So is there any evidence that Jlo's smiling index is having a real positive affect on Ducati's GP presence? Well Dovi has scored 4 victories, particularly significant winning at Mugello, 2 Ducatis on the podium btw (Petrux) 3 Ducs in top 5 (don't forget Zac Efron AKA Alvaro), plus Jlo a podium, 6 secs off the win at Austria, 3.5secs from the winner at Silverstone, and so forth. So it's certainly an upward trend at the moment. So as to the effect of this symbiotic relationship...

Let's look back a bit. The last time Ducati scored more than a couple wins (last year 2) was in 2010 (Casey). I won't get any argument that Nicky was the ultimate team player, loyal, underrated (Valentino’s stint as Nicky's Ducati teammate proved this) and his unmatched work ethic is undeniable. 2010 (Casey/Nicky) and again in 2013 (Dovi/Nicky) was the last time Ducati had a genuine symbiotic relationship between its factory riders until 2017. In 2011-12, Valentino was something of a black hole, sucking up all the energy, resources, Nicky's collaboration was more akin to indentured servant, by virtue of the density of Rossi's yellow ego and importance to GP/ Dorna. That is, the farthest thing from a symbiotic relationship. Incidentally, Daniboy called Jlo's performance today one of an overpaid prima dona, i mention him because surely it's the prevailing assessment of the majority of the crowd Dorna is beholden to pander. Odd timing to make such a claim, given the fact Jorge was 3.5secs from the winner. But if we want to talk about overpaid prima donas, I submit Rossi was the gold standard: zero wins were scored by Ducati in the years Rossi rode under the Corse banner. Keep in mind, no rock was left unturned to help Rossi, who at the time was accepted as the GOAT. Zero wins. Worse yet, the wake was a lingering disaster that took years for Ducati to recover.

Things started looking better in 2013, Dovi and Nicky as factory riders started to pick up the pieces towards the long road to recovery. Let's face it, Rossi left Ducati at rock bottom. But you had two riders who epitomized work ethic, something overlooked until you consider the brink of disaster and disarray at Corse in Rossi's wake, so much that Ducati was outsourcing it's chassis for ..... sake. Think about that, it was embarrassment for a factory racing project to concede building it's own damn chassis. Unfortunately Ducati shot themselves in the foot by replacing Nicky with Cuntslow. Not only was the symbiotic relationship between Dovi and Nicky foolishly lost, but Ducati effectively hired a guy who quit almost immediately. Fact is Buttflow hasn't stopped complaining and resisting testing duties (revisit a parc ferme complaint of testing for Honda). The progress made in 2013 was all but dismantled, Dovi was basically the lone factory rider as Buttflow had already checked out, so severe was the free fall that Ducati tried to stop the bleeding and found relief from a stroke of luck, Cal Quitsmore wanted out halfway into his contract. If hiring Rossi was the worst thing Ducati has ever done, replacing Nicky with Shitflow was the second worst.

At the time, Ducati newly acquired by Audi, had another stoke of good luck, tapping Gigi to replace that German sounding guy, (forget his name but he worked for BMW.) Oh, and I forgot to mention, Rossi's disaster upon Ducati included the unceremonious shitcanning of genius Felipo Prezi; like I said, Rossi was a black hole, sucking the life out of collaboration. Symbiosis simply can't exist around him, as is tge case with parasites, hence why Lorenzo had to leave or be swallowed up. Gigi stopped the bleeding, swallowing pride and factory prestige by declaring Ducati an 'open class' (prompting Dorna to make 11th our rules and manipulations in category designation). Gigi also needed to fill the seat open by Quitflow, enter Iannone, who was already in the Ducati stable. Under Gigi's leadership, it's clear that symbiotic relationship and collaboration is a signature of his strategy. Hiring Casey Stoner was certainly both a stroke of luck as the Australian was surely disgruntled with HRC, and genius, Gigi still had to convince Casey that testing for Ducati would be significant collaboration.

Ducati finally scored 2 wins in 2016, ending a desperate drought that Rossi started. Coincidentally, it was another Italian, Iannone, that started to behave more like your typical teammate in the Rossi mold, i.e. an .......; increasingly adversarial than when he was originally promoted. I wonder how much of a change in Iannone's attitude was a contamination from Rossi's toxicity overwhelming him during the 2015 Debacle. Iannone seemed another man in 2016, barging into his teammate ala Rossi on Lorenzo. Perhaps brushing up with the Yellow Minions lining up to eat his unborn children after daring to race Rossi at Phillip Island changed him into a more selfish teammate, it ultimately cost him his job.

Gigi's strategy is collaboration, surely this was discussed when he interviewed and then offered the job to Lorenzo. Jorge was a man who was privy to the ugly opposite of what Gigi was undoubtedly selling. Has Lorenzo's happy index made a positive impact upon Dovi, Ducati, and himself? Between 2011 to 2015, Ducati scored zero wins. All of those years with the exception of 2013, were no symbiotic relationships or spirit of collaboration between teammates because one side of the garage was either sapping everything or not carrying weight. 2017 is by far the most successful since 2010. Ducati are leading the points for the championship well into the season. Simply put...

The numbers don't lie.
 
And don't listen to Theo's drivel, we've also been here before and we love the place...

We?
Sadly none of my friends like the place either and most of them are better riders than me. As for drivel, well you have your opinion and I have mine so lets leave it at that.
 
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We?
Sadly none of my friends like the place either and most of them are better riders than me. As for drivel, well you have your opinion and I have mine so lets leave it at that.

Despite the bumpy surface, it's immensely popular with professional National and International motorcycle racers because of its fast flowing nature. It also produces better racing in GP than Donington - regrettable that Theo's mates don't tend to agree.

I do prefer the old layout though.

Would have loved to have seen GP go to Brands.
 
I've heard you mention this now a few times, I've kinda glossed over it because I mean ok, yeah Jorge looks happier, so what? You were one of the first to mention this in post race reactions, Jlo's demeanor at Ducati. I originally didn’t know how to process that actually, I mean ok, yeah I've argued he traded Yamaha's toxic environment for happier pasture; but at a high cost: a challenging bike effectively taking himself out of a legacy in terms of for-sure chance at the title. Was it a good tradeoff? Well, it may actually turn out to benefit Dovi, Ducati, and himself as you say.

Actually Dub, i had a thought about Nicky reading your post, given nice guy Dovi's win today, and it made me think. Follow me here.

The point about impact of teammates acting like 'teammates' in the conventional sense is something that is impossible to measure, and rare, its easy to overlook, but I agree with your point that Dovi and Lorenzo are experiencing a symbiotic relationship--that is, mutually beneficial. It is actually impacting the results. 2016 Lorenzo looked like a guy who was just told his dog died, wife screwed his best buddy, and was diagnosed with terminal erectile dysfunction. Now, you see him doing stuff that in motorsport is unusual, for example, celebrating with your teammate (your first rival) who has beat you. Jlo has certainly been publicly more at oeace, consistently owned up to his shortcomings, candid about his performance, and more importantly, continues to plug away.

So is there any evidence that Jlo's smiling index is having a real positive affect on Ducati's GP presence? Well Dovi has scored 4 victories, particularly significant winning at Mugello, 2 Ducatis on the podium btw (Petrux) 3 Ducs in top 5 (don't forget Zac Efron AKA Alvaro), plus Jlo a podium, 6 secs off the win at Austria, 3.5secs from the winner at Silverstone, and so forth. So it's certainly an upward trend at the moment. So as to the effect of this symbiotic relationship...

Let's look back a bit. The last time Ducati scored more than a couple wins (last year 2) was in 2010 (Casey). I won't get any argument that Nicky was the ultimate team player, loyal, underrated (Valentino’s stint as Nicky's Ducati teammate proved this) and his unmatched work ethic is undeniable. 2010 (Casey/Nicky) and again in 2013 (Dovi/Nicky) was the last time Ducati had a genuine symbiotic relationship between its factory riders until 2017. In 2011-12, Valentino was something of a black hole, sucking up all the energy, resources, Nicky's collaboration was more akin to indentured servant, by virtue of the density of Rossi's yellow ego and importance to GP/ Dorna. That is, the farthest thing from a symbiotic relationship. Incidentally, Daniboy called Jlo's performance today one of an overpaid prima dona, i mention him because surely it's the prevailing assessment of the majority of the crowd Dorna is beholden to pander. Odd timing to make such a claim, given the fact Jorge was 3.5secs from the winner. But if we want to talk about overpaid prima donas, I submit Rossi was the gold standard: zero wins were scored by Ducati in the years Rossi rode under the Corse banner. Keep in mind, no rock was left unturned to help Rossi, who at the time was accepted as the GOAT. Zero wins. Worse yet, the wake was a lingering disaster that took years for Ducati to recover.

Things started looking better in 2013, Dovi and Nicky as factory riders started to pick up the pieces towards the long road to recovery. Let's face it, Rossi left Ducati at rock bottom. But you had two riders who epitomized work ethic, something overlooked until you consider the brink of disaster and disarray at Corse in Rossi's wake, so much that Ducati was outsourcing it's chassis for ..... sake. Think about that, it was embarrassment for a factory racing project to concede building it's own damn chassis. Unfortunately Ducati shot themselves in the foot by replacing Nicky with Cuntslow. Not only was the symbiotic relationship between Dovi and Nicky foolishly lost, but Ducati effectively hired a guy who quit almost immediately. Fact is Buttflow hasn't stopped complaining and resisting testing duties (revisit a parc ferme complaint of testing for Honda). The progress made in 2013 was all but dismantled, Dovi was basically the lone factory rider as Buttflow had already checked out, so severe was the free fall that Ducati tried to stop the bleeding and found relief from a stroke of luck, Cal Quitsmore wanted out halfway into his contract. If hiring Rossi was the worst thing Ducati has ever done, replacing Nicky with Shitflow was the second worst.

At the time, Ducati newly acquired by Audi, had another stoke of good luck, tapping Gigi to replace that German sounding guy, (forget his name but he worked for BMW.) Oh, and I forgot to mention, Rossi's disaster upon Ducati included the unceremonious shitcanning of genius Felipo Prezi; like I said, Rossi was a black hole, sucking the life out of collaboration. Symbiosis simply can't exist around him, as is tge case with parasites, hence why Lorenzo had to leave or be swallowed up. Gigi stopped the bleeding, swallowing pride and factory prestige by declaring Ducati an 'open class' (prompting Dorna to make 11th our rules and manipulations in category designation). Gigi also needed to fill the seat open by Quitflow, enter Iannone, who was already in the Ducati stable. Under Gigi's leadership, it's clear that symbiotic relationship and collaboration is a signature of his strategy. Hiring Casey Stoner was certainly both a stroke of luck as the Australian was surely disgruntled with HRC, and genius, Gigi still had to convince Casey that testing for Ducati would be significant collaboration.

Ducati finally scored 2 wins in 2016, ending a desperate drought that Rossi started. Coincidentally, it was another Italian, Iannone, that started to behave more like your typical teammate in the Rossi mold, i.e. an .......; increasingly adversarial than when he was originally promoted. I wonder how much of a change in Iannone's attitude was a contamination from Rossi's toxicity overwhelming him during the 2015 Debacle. Iannone seemed another man in 2016, barging into his teammate ala Rossi on Lorenzo. Perhaps brushing up with the Yellow Minions lining up to eat his unborn children after daring to race Rossi at Phillip Island changed him into a more selfish teammate, it ultimately cost him his job.

Gigi's strategy is collaboration, surely this was discussed when he interviewed and then offered the job to Lorenzo. Jorge was a man who was privy to the ugly opposite of what Gigi was undoubtedly selling. Has Lorenzo's happy index made a positive impact upon Dovi, Ducati, and himself? Between 2011 to 2015, Ducati scored zero wins. All of those years with the exception of 2013, were no symbiotic relationships or spirit of collaboration between teammates because one side of the garage was either sapping everything or not carrying weight. 2017 is by far the most successful since 2010. Ducati are leading the points for the championship well into the season. Simply put...

The numbers don't lie.

Credit to all parties involved; Gigi as Povol has said, and you imply, is an outright genius, particularly given as you argue and I agree removing obstacles from Ducati's path is hardly a Dorna priority in recent years.
 
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I've heard you mention this now a few times, I've kinda glossed over it because I mean ok, yeah Jorge looks happier, so what? You were one of the first to mention this in post race reactions, Jlo's demeanor at Ducati. I originally didn’t know how to process that actually, I mean ok, yeah I've argued he traded Yamaha's toxic environment for happier pasture; but at a high cost: a challenging bike effectively taking himself out of a legacy in terms of for-sure chance at the title. Was it a good tradeoff? Well, it may actually turn out to benefit Dovi, Ducati, and himself as you say.

Actually Dub, i had a thought about Nicky reading your post, given nice guy Dovi's win today, and it made me think. Follow me here.

The point about impact of teammates acting like 'teammates' in the conventional sense is something that is impossible to measure, and rare, its easy to overlook, but I agree with your point that Dovi and Lorenzo are experiencing a symbiotic relationship--that is, mutually beneficial. It is actually impacting the results. 2016 Lorenzo looked like a guy who was just told his dog died, wife screwed his best buddy, and was diagnosed with terminal erectile dysfunction. Now, you see him doing stuff that in motorsport is unusual, for example, celebrating with your teammate (your first rival) who has beat you. Jlo has certainly been publicly more at oeace, consistently owned up to his shortcomings, candid about his performance, and more importantly, continues to plug away.

So is there any evidence that Jlo's smiling index is having a real positive affect on Ducati's GP presence? Well Dovi has scored 4 victories, particularly significant winning at Mugello, 2 Ducatis on the podium btw (Petrux) 3 Ducs in top 5 (don't forget Zac Efron AKA Alvaro), plus Jlo a podium, 6 secs off the win at Austria, 3.5secs from the winner at Silverstone, and so forth. So it's certainly an upward trend at the moment. So as to the effect of this symbiotic relationship...

Let's look back a bit. The last time Ducati scored more than a couple wins (last year 2) was in 2010 (Casey). I won't get any argument that Nicky was the ultimate team player, loyal, underrated (Valentino’s stint as Nicky's Ducati teammate proved this) and his unmatched work ethic is undeniable. 2010 (Casey/Nicky) and again in 2013 (Dovi/Nicky) was the last time Ducati had a genuine symbiotic relationship between its factory riders until 2017. In 2011-12, Valentino was something of a black hole, sucking up all the energy, resources, Nicky's collaboration was more akin to indentured servant, by virtue of the density of Rossi's yellow ego and importance to GP/ Dorna. That is, the farthest thing from a symbiotic relationship. Incidentally, Daniboy called Jlo's performance today one of an overpaid prima dona, i mention him because surely it's the prevailing assessment of the majority of the crowd Dorna is beholden to pander. Odd timing to make such a claim, given the fact Jorge was 3.5secs from the winner. But if we want to talk about overpaid prima donas, I submit Rossi was the gold standard: zero wins were scored by Ducati in the years Rossi rode under the Corse banner. Keep in mind, no rock was left unturned to help Rossi, who at the time was accepted as the GOAT. Zero wins. Worse yet, the wake was a lingering disaster that took years for Ducati to recover.

Things started looking better in 2013, Dovi and Nicky as factory riders started to pick up the pieces towards the long road to recovery. Let's face it, Rossi left Ducati at rock bottom. But you had two riders who epitomized work ethic, something overlooked until you consider the brink of disaster and disarray at Corse in Rossi's wake, so much that Ducati was outsourcing it's chassis for ..... sake. Think about that, it was embarrassment for a factory racing project to concede building it's own damn chassis. Unfortunately Ducati shot themselves in the foot by replacing Nicky with Cuntslow. Not only was the symbiotic relationship between Dovi and Nicky foolishly lost, but Ducati effectively hired a guy who quit almost immediately. Fact is Buttflow hasn't stopped complaining and resisting testing duties (revisit a parc ferme complaint of testing for Honda). The progress made in 2013 was all but dismantled, Dovi was basically the lone factory rider as Buttflow had already checked out, so severe was the free fall that Ducati tried to stop the bleeding and found relief from a stroke of luck, Cal Quitsmore wanted out halfway into his contract. If hiring Rossi was the worst thing Ducati has ever done, replacing Nicky with Shitflow was the second worst.

At the time, Ducati newly acquired by Audi, had another stoke of good luck, tapping Gigi to replace that German sounding guy, (forget his name but he worked for BMW.) Oh, and I forgot to mention, Rossi's disaster upon Ducati included the unceremonious shitcanning of genius Felipo Prezi; like I said, Rossi was a black hole, sucking the life out of collaboration. Symbiosis simply can't exist around him, as is tge case with parasites, hence why Lorenzo had to leave or be swallowed up. Gigi stopped the bleeding, swallowing pride and factory prestige by declaring Ducati an 'open class' (prompting Dorna to make 11th our rules and manipulations in category designation). Gigi also needed to fill the seat open by Quitflow, enter Iannone, who was already in the Ducati stable. Under Gigi's leadership, it's clear that symbiotic relationship and collaboration is a signature of his strategy. Hiring Casey Stoner was certainly both a stroke of luck as the Australian was surely disgruntled with HRC, and genius, Gigi still had to convince Casey that testing for Ducati would be significant collaboration.

Ducati finally scored 2 wins in 2016, ending a desperate drought that Rossi started. Coincidentally, it was another Italian, Iannone, that started to behave more like your typical teammate in the Rossi mold, i.e. an .......; increasingly adversarial than when he was originally promoted. I wonder how much of a change in Iannone's attitude was a contamination from Rossi's toxicity overwhelming him during the 2015 Debacle. Iannone seemed another man in 2016, barging into his teammate ala Rossi on Lorenzo. Perhaps brushing up with the Yellow Minions lining up to eat his unborn children after daring to race Rossi at Phillip Island changed him into a more selfish teammate, it ultimately cost him his job.

Gigi's strategy is collaboration, surely this was discussed when he interviewed and then offered the job to Lorenzo. Jorge was a man who was privy to the ugly opposite of what Gigi was undoubtedly selling. Has Lorenzo's happy index made a positive impact upon Dovi, Ducati, and himself? Between 2011 to 2015, Ducati scored zero wins. All of those years with the exception of 2013, were no symbiotic relationships or spirit of collaboration between teammates because one side of the garage was either sapping everything or not carrying weight. 2017 is by far the most successful since 2010. Ducati are leading the points for the championship well into the season. Simply put...

The numbers don't lie.


Excellent post jum. Very good read, spot on. It appears to me JLo feels a connection to the entire team at ducati including his teammate and test riders. It looks to me that he is enjoying the process of developing at ducati and honestly is happy to see the bike do well.

On the other end yamaha has a perfect storm brewing. Mav and Rossi have to be the last people you want as a teammate.
 
I agree with this gaz, well the second part. Let me add that Dovi complements JLo as a teammate as well. What ducati is building for JLo is helping Dovi but it is also giving Jorge the direction to success. JLo managed the race today, I have to think that was partly at least because of watching dovis success and doing what he does.

Jorge only looked happy because he knew he was going to be slamming Libbitations after the race
 
We?
Sadly none of my friends like the place either and most of them are better riders than me. As for drivel, well you have your opinion and I have mine so lets leave it at that.

None of my friends like the place either...

WTF

I'll quote Arrabi:

"?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????"

Silverstone is a world class venue!

Theon, I think you're just taking out your frustration, there's no shame in being corrected by Arrabi mate. He has dislodged my foot from mouth on more than several occasions. Sure, it feels like a chainsaw was used for the dental work, but nobody made us stick our feet in. Haha, dude you said Dovi amounted to .... in UK weather not remembering he had won a race in what was easily the most ungodly conditions, for the UK that's saying something. You predicted Dovi would be nowhere based on your erroneous take, Dovi wins the race! I was laughing remembering this moment, they interviewed Colin Edwards who managed to get on the podium, asking him his thoughts on the conditions of the race during the live feed, he said, this race was complete ........! If it makes you feel better Arrabi helped me look like an ..... when I posted something on Josh Brooks (granted, he's not that memorable, and who the .... follows the career of an also-ran in some obscure national series on some far away island anyway). My advice is, stop gritting your teeth, fess up that you said something ........, thank the Oracle for the correction, and draw the least attention to yourself from the exchange. Move on buddy.
 
None of my friends like the place either...

WTF

I'll quote Arrabi:

"?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????"

Silverstone is a world class venue!

Theon, I think you're just taking out your frustration, there's no shame in being corrected by Arrabi mate. He has dislodged my foot from mouth on more than several occasions. Sure, it feels like a chainsaw was used for the dental work, but nobody made us stick our feet in. Haha, dude you said Dovi amounted to .... in UK weather not remembering he had won a race in what was easily the most ungodly conditions, for the UK that's saying something. You predicted Dovi would be nowhere based on your erroneous take, Dovi wins the race! I was laughing remembering this moment, they interviewed Colin Edwards who managed to get on the podium, asking him his thoughts on the conditions of the race during the live feed, he said, this race was complete ........! If it makes you feel better Arrabi helped me look like an ..... when I posted something on Josh Brooks (granted, he's not that memorable, and who the .... follows the career of an also-ran in some obscure national series on some far away island anyway). My advice is, stop gritting your teeth, fess up that you said something ........, thank the Oracle for the correction, and draw the least attention to yourself from the exchange. Move on buddy.

Teon's posts reek.
 

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