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Casey Stoner as the test rider has developed a contending bike. Well done Casey!
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Cuntslow folds whenever he has Rossi in front. He's a ...... I've noticed this for some time. Cuntslow is a total bopper.
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At least the Honda rider didn’t ride around the track like that one Yamaha rider did...
I await seeing grown men with 93 shirts openly weeping in their wife's arms.
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Honestly, as much as I'm rooting for Dovi, I just didn't think that Ducati would continue to improve beyond the first four or five races. It's like Honda and Yamaha have hit the ceiling developing the current platforms. I don't think Dovi is winning strictly due to the horsepower advantage. The bike really seems quite stable. Light years more stable than the insane mechanical bull that Stoner rode. Ducati have really come through.
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And the newspaper headlines read, ..... low ..... folds.
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Wouldn't you love to know what they've spent on R&D, say starting from when Rossi started on the team, until now?
Cracking race, got to hand it Dovi, decisive when it counted and managing the tires. The bike looked great, got to hand it to Ducati for being able to stick it to yamahonda.
At least this race Lorenzo didn't go backwards, so that is encouraging. It is actually encouraging that he didn't try to win the race in the first 5 laps and he didn't lose touch with the leaders to the extent that he has in the recent past, keeping it ahead of Zarco.
Finales looking good too, I am looking forward to the next one!
At least this race Lorenzo didn't go backwards, so that is encouraging. It is actually encouraging that he didn't try to win the race in the first 5 laps and he didn't lose touch with the leaders to the extent that he has in the recent past, keeping it ahead of Zarco.
Finales looking good too, I am looking forward to the next one!
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The standard for high paid prima dong at Ducati was set very high by Rossi. Never to be matched.
Lorenzo had a solid race today. Again, Rossi’s tires suit Dovi and Marc better because they're both harder brakers, whereas Lorenzo is suited with more edge grip given his corner speed.
Viñalez managed tires far better than Rossi when you factor in that he took the medium tire gamble. Viñalez is taking Rossi's tire and Rossi’s chassis and beating him with his own weapons.
Kudos on your HRC red face crack though, well played.
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Seeing the smoke rising from the Honda reminded me of the moment Daenerys' first born fell from the sky, and everybody standing around going, ...., when's the last time you saw that happen?
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Good and entertaining race, but, Dovi is just lucky to be on the self-riding missile, I say.
And what happened to Pol, his bike spit him off the saddle after he crossed the line? Mechanical or rider error?
I was rooting for Cal to pass Rossi, but he couldn't. Anyone know what excuse he made up this time?
Also, after the race, Rossi looked tired and affected, explaining something to his mechanics, pointing to his chin. Was that a cosa nostra sign, I wonder? Altough a very different man when he came to be interviewed in parc ferme, smiley and affable.
And what happened to Pol, his bike spit him off the saddle after he crossed the line? Mechanical or rider error?
I was rooting for Cal to pass Rossi, but he couldn't. Anyone know what excuse he made up this time?
Also, after the race, Rossi looked tired and affected, explaining something to his mechanics, pointing to his chin. Was that a cosa nostra sign, I wonder? Altough a very different man when he came to be interviewed in parc ferme, smiley and affable.
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HRC gifted Rossi a podium.
Cal was like, if I risk passing Rossi to get onto the podium, I'll be in violation of Rossi’s rule, if I don't risk anything I'll still be on the podium, Rossi gets his podium, no unwritten rules violation. Win win.
Pol's bike was like, I've had enough of this backmarker .....
Self riding missile. Well played.
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He has done it before and shown he can handle the pressure
Whilst this may well be true Jums can I throw another in the mix (aside from Pirro who does the donkey work), but may I suggest Lorenzo as well?
Throwing it there as whilst yes, the Duke was better last year it does seem to have taken a step forward again in 2017 (when Lorenzo arrived) at the same time that, coincidentally, the Yamaha have seemingly become inconsistent (when Lorenzo left). Sure it may not be a popular thought train but there may be something in it as well and none of this diminishes the work and graft shown by Dovi.
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I agree with this gaz, well the second part. Let me add that Dovi complements JLo as a teammate as well. What ducati is building for JLo is helping Dovi but it is also giving Jorge the direction to success. JLo managed the race today, I have to think that was partly at least because of watching dovis success and doing what he does.
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If Vinales comes back strong for the remaining races - it can only make for a more exciting season. I think we're all tired of seasons where it's always the same three guys on the podium. I'd say fans have a lot to be thankful for, in that we have four contenders so well matched. And thankful that Ducati's work has paid off. Now if Dovi and Marquez had better teammates....
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Lorenzo’s biggest challenge is not the Ducati as is the erroneous conventional wisdom) but rather the tires (drink) speaking of drinking, another challenge is fuel consumption. Lorenzo has shown he can lead races, qualify decent, even front row qual, have race pace, and even lead practices in the rain (wait what?)
Think momentum of a ship. Its not easy to change Corse after its almost sunk. Ducati has certainly improved most notably in organizational stability, as it was subjected to a category 46 hurricane, and slowly risen from the disaster, slowly and painfully reestablishing itself after Rossi’s disruption of Corse racing. It took a few years to unravel and recover from the havoc Rossi wrought. That hangover took its toll, but alas, with Gigi righting the ship, taking open class concessions, hiring the fastest test rider ever in Stoner, and taking their chances with, at the time reigning champ, Lorenzo, the momentum that Rossi damaged and the disarray is finally dissipated.
Lorenzo and Dovi have different strengths, again Rossi's tire suits Andrea far more than Lorenzo, hence why you see Jorge running the enclosed winglets, to mitigate the front tire's characteristics. If you look at the speed charts from Austria, Lorenzo was near the bottom, I suspect Lorenzo is trading front end feel and stability for straight line speed (I haven’t seen today's speed chart to see if Ducati have mitigated this issue) and consequently fuel. If you heard Nick Harris' commentary, he lamented poor Rossi getting pummeled on the straight today, saying Dovi didn’t have to take as much risks on the turns as poor o'Rossi because all Dovi had to do was wait for the straights to gain time, it's just like magic you see. There is however some insight to be gained from Harris' lament, and that is down force saps fuel and speed. This is the negative consequence of Lorenzo riding a Ducati on Rossi's tires, Jorge needs more stability on the harder carcass #70 front tire, the cost is fuel & speed. So if Dovi has an advantage on Rossi’s Yamaha on the straight, then that advantage is reduced for Lorenzo!
Regarding your contention that Lorenzo has improved the development of Ducati since his tenure began. Well, a few things to consider. Dovi was on Viñalez's ... round one at Qatar. I'm not sure how much of a footprint the GP17 had at that point from Jorge, granted it was being fine tuned over the off season by both Dovi, Lorenzo + test riders. Then Dorna tried to introduce at Argentina the previously rejected #70 tire (23-1 vote). You can see Lorenzo's dip in performance, even if nothing had yet changed at this point, as Viñalez and Marquez have suggested in the past, seeing the machinations at work with Dorna has its impact. Since then Ducati have been hard at work, trying to figure out this previously rejected #70, not just handling but conservation of tire and as it relates to fuel management. Today you could almost detect when the top riders were in fuel conservation mode. How much has Lorenzo been part of this development? Dog knows. But certainly he's had input. But until he starts beating Dovi, the development has not quite tipped in his favor.
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Since you joined this forum you have always struck me as a sincere person with a genuine love of the sport - and long may your contributions to this forum continue because of that...but Jeeeeez Shaunna, do your homework over and above the recent college project into "sportsmanship moments in Moto GP" and allow me to educate you.
Not as big in the UK? - as big as what? Spain?..where it is second only to La Liga and this is commonplace?...
Actually, been there...
And don't listen to Theo's drivel, we've also been here before and we love the place...
In the 1990s WSBk Brands was one of the biggest sporting events in terms of attendance on the planet. Bike racing in the UK is marginalised because of the irrational worship of F1, but still has a massive core support. I haven't missed the British GP for four years - last time was due to the fact that I was in Morocco, this year I had friends over and couldn't go...I haven't checked but I'll wager now that the attendance was 75,000 plus. It dipped in 2011 and 2012 - I'll leave you to surmise why, but during Rossi's halcyon years Doni was pulling 90,000.
You haven't been to Silverstone...so here's an invitation to you and anyone else reading this that hasn't attended, I'll host you. I'm fifty miles from the circuit and I'll throw in a track day at Doni...(my back yard).
Have you any conception concerning the size of this place??? It's so ....... vast that there are national bus operators clamouring for the contract around the perimeter road. Unlike Doni, which was like a war zone, this is a world class international facility...The capacity is so huge that many of the stands are closed - and in addition to that, the cessation of the roving grandstand tickets three years ago mean that many elect to stand trackside as opposed to be seated on raceday.
British motorcycle racing fans are renowned for being the most fervent, knowledgeable and passionate on the planet. Our own Jums visited Willski in one of the most Bucolic, rural locations in the UK and was astounded partaking in afternoon tea when someone strolled past in a Tyco Suzuki hoodie...
Let me know how your Australian Superbike series is fairing business and attendance wise in relation to BSB.
Motorcycle racing has massive pedigree in the UK and the British Motorcycle GP is not only huge, but an integral market for Dorna operationally and commercially.
Those clowns from the circuit of Wales have the contract, nonetheless this is one of the best organised and lucrative circuits on the calendar.
Get some context ffs.
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