Mugello MotoGp Race Mugello 22

mylexicon · May 31, 2022

Nakagami v Rins is visible at the 30 second mark in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWeNaVR48A

Looks like a repeat of Toprak and Rea at Assen

Edit: Dorna doesn't allow outside links apparently, so you have to watch on youtube.

mylexicon · May 31, 2022

Martin and Miller Attribute Poor Results to Gearbox Issues

Sounds like Martin had worse issues than Miller, but Miller's issue was specifically third gear acceleration out of the last turn.

#22 · May 31, 2022

Keshav said:
Great race. Nothing special to add except, Fabio's just great.

I'll add Brad Binder to that. I really want to see him on a good bike.

mylexicon said:
Rins: Nakagami One Of The Most Dangerous Riders

Not sure if complaining in the safety meeting about Nakagami is a good use of time

mylexicon said:
Nakagami v Rins is visible at the 30 second mark in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjWeNaVR48A

Looks like a repeat of Toprak and Rea at Assen

Edit: Dorna doesn't allow outside links apparently, so you have to watch on youtube.

What did he expect Taka to do? Just roll out of it? Total Rins' fault there.

Bern1 · May 31, 2022

Watching it, it didn’t look like Rins had passed him. Even with him, maybe. That’s not a pass.

Bern1 · May 31, 2022

Keshav said:
As insipid as it can sometimes be, at least we no longer have to listen to Nick Harris use the phrase "Nine-Times-World-Champion-Valentino-Rossi" every 10 seconds and getting himself all lathered up with race-long commenatary about Eugene Laverty all the way back in 23rd place.

No ...., that was plain irritating. Made me want to mute the volume.

I don’t know who the announcers were in the late 80’s, early 90’s, but they were entertaining and seriously enthusiastic. They made you, a TV spectator, feel kind of like you were there and helped get you excited about the racing action.

I especially liked the guy who, when a dice was heating up, would shout into the mic “HE’S ALL OVER THE BACK OF HIM LIKE A CHEAP SUIT!”

mylexicon · May 31, 2022

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...motogp/motogps-wheels-that-flex-for-more-grip

Pandora's box is opening wider. Wheel manufacturers now fine tuning flex and heat dissipation properties to improve front tire performance.

Conversely, KTM are calling for aero to be banned. I can't complain about that.

Don't like walking in lockstep with the Luddites, but GP has lost its way. There is virtually no rapid prototyping occurring with the engine or chassis based upon rider specification. Everything is homologated, and huge sums are being spent to address problems that need not exist.

Arrabbiata1 · May 31, 2022

mylexicon said:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...motogp/motogps-wheels-that-flex-for-more-grip

Pandora's box is opening wider. Wheel manufacturers now fine tuning flex and heat dissipation properties to improve front tire performance.

Conversely, KTM are calling for aero to be banned. I can't complain about that.

Don't like walking in lockstep with the Luddites, but GP has lost its way. There is virtually no rapid prototyping occurring with the engine or chassis based upon rider specification. Everything is homologated, and huge sums are being spent to address problems that need not exist.

My my.

Keshav · Jun 1, 2022

mylexicon said:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/...motogp/motogps-wheels-that-flex-for-more-grip

Pandora's box is opening wider. Wheel manufacturers now fine tuning flex and heat dissipation properties to improve front tire performance.

Conversely, KTM are calling for aero to be banned. I can't complain about that.

Don't like walking in lockstep with the Luddites, but GP has lost its way. There is virtually no rapid prototyping occurring with the engine or chassis based upon rider specification. Everything is homologated, and huge sums are being spent to address problems that need not exist.

Good article. I admit sometimes these pieces make me zone out because they state a lot of obvious stuff and insert just a wee bit of actual new info. This was well written and informative. Having read a few interviews with riders on this subject and now a few more, my opinion on aero has changed. If the riders hate it....

If aero goes, it will just motivate engineers to be more creative in new ways.

mylexicon · Jun 1, 2022

Keshav said:
Good article. I admit sometimes these pieces make me zone out because they state a lot of obvious stuff and insert just a wee bit of actual new info. This was well written and informative. Having read a few interviews with riders on this subject and now a few more, my opinion on aero has changed. If the riders hate it....

If aero goes, it will just motivate engineers to be more creative in new ways.

Agreed. I don't think the sport will ever be rid of shareholder robbery. It seems to be the lifeblood of the MSMA, and they can't see a different business model. Robbing shareholders is what they do, and if the shareholders agree.....not much can be done without spending millions on auditors (who will probably be bought off) to enforce budget caps.

I doubt the sport will ever be on solid ground with the current group of players, particularly Ducati's management. At this point, I will settle for the old sport, one that features engine and chassis development at the directive of the rider. It was a dark day in GP history when Ducati agreed to abandon carbon fiber frame design for a Burgess-Rossi loan.

Keshav · Jun 1, 2022

mylexicon said:
Agreed. I don't think the sport will ever be rid of shareholder robbery. It seems to be the lifeblood of the MSMA, and they can't see a different business model. Robbing shareholders is what they do, and if the shareholders agree.....not much can be done without spending millions on auditors (who will probably be bought off) to enforce budget caps.

I doubt the sport will ever be on solid ground with the current group of players, particularly Ducati's management. At this point, I will settle for the old sport, one that features engine and chassis development at the directive of the rider. It was a dark day in GP history when Ducati agreed to abandon carbon fiber frame design for a Burgess-Rossi loan.

Ducati reminds me of one of the old-school fashion houses from Paris or Milan that’s been repeatedly bought out of bankruptcy for the sake of name-brand prestige, that never manages to reel in their various excesses.

mylexicon · Jun 1, 2022

Keshav said:
Ducati reminds me of one of the old-school fashion houses from Paris or Milan that’s been repeatedly bought out of bankruptcy for the sake of name-brand prestige, that never manages to reel in their various excesses.

It's true, and the craziest part is that each time they are bought out by a larger institution, the excesses increase, rather than decreasing under the weight of corporate bureaucracy.

It's wild, and it leads to a dichotomous relationship with the public. In good times, Italians are lauded for evading the bean counters. In bad times, they are publicly scorned and removed from polite society.

I guess we can all celebrate that Italian manufacturing has improved (slightly?) in the last 25 years.

Keshav · Jun 1, 2022

mylexicon said:
It's true, and the craziest part is that each time they are bought out by a larger institution, the excesses increase, rather than decreasing under the weight of corporate bureaucracy.

It's wild, and it leads to a dichotomous relationship with the public. In good times, Italians are lauded for evading the bean counters. In bad times, they are publicly scorned and removed from polite society.

I guess we can all celebrate that Italian manufacturing has improved (slightly?) in the last 25 years.

LOL. I well remember the Ducatis of the late '70s and early '80s. Looked exotic, with crap brakes and crap suspension etc. Couldn't give me one.

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