MotoGP back in action at Sepang Test

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (is200 @ Feb 8 2010, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talpa, your suggestion re accepting responsibility for the warm up lap is pretty poor. The crash was a result of a faulty tire warmer. The left side of the warmer was not working but the right was. So he went out with a stone cold left side of the tyre. Needless to say the supplier has one less contract.

Wow...never heard of that, I thought warmers had a coil that snaked through the middle? How did he stay on in the first series of lefts at all in this case?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (is200 @ Feb 8 2010, 04:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talpa, your suggestion re accepting responsibility for the warm up lap is pretty poor. The crash was a result of a faulty tire warmer. The left side of the warmer was not working but the right was. So he went out with a stone cold left side of the tyre. Needless to say the supplier has one less contract.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought everyone knew about the tire warmer? Somebody on here pointed out the mechanics reaction to removing it.

I thought it was only the Rossifans in denial again LOLOLOL
I don't remember any tyre warmer issue being reported at the time, nor can I find any reference to one. Either of you guys have a source for this?

What was <span style="color:#0000FFreported was a failure of Stoners warm-up strategy consisting of hanging back in the early part of the lap, while pushing hard to get heat into the tires, arriving late and with warm tires, ready to get away from the line and push as hard as possible from the off.

Also, from <span style="color:#0000FFthe comic, in an interview with Mathew Birt, Stoner had the follwoing to say.

"I just touched the throttle and it just went on me. I didn't do anything wrong and I don't think it will ever happen again. It was unbelievable.

"I could understand if I did it on the first lap of the race that it would be a stupid mistake. But as soon as it happened I was racking my brain trying to understand it. We looked at the telemetry and I didn't do anything wrong.

"I didn't even have the throttle cracked open. I was just touching it and it went so quick it was nothing like anything I've experienced before."

Stoner added: "I have no explanation for it and it would be better if I did. It came around on me so quick, and even though I backed it off there was no stopping it.

"I'm probably one of the most cautious riders on the warm-up lap. A lot of others are fast from get-go but I'm always cautious to get the tyres warmed up for the start of the race. But there was nothing to stop me crashing I don't what we can do for the future but I don't want to get caught out like that again."

The strategy used by Stoner on Sunday was to start the race on his number one bike and ride the warm-up lap at a slow speed to conserve precious fuel.

But the cool air temperatures that only reached 19 degrees and blustery conditions robbed Stoner's rear tyre of vital heat that gives optimum grip.

"I might get lucky next time. If I knew I did something wrong I would change that. I would I would like to have a bit more power on the sighting lap to get more temperature in the tyre and get it scrubbed in better.

"We just haven't been getting enough temperature in the tyre. The same thing happened in Phillip Island and the right hand corners for the first couple of laps it was terrible. But not even get a chance to win the race was a very frustrating situation."

There are a few pieces missing here.
Why hasn't this been widely spread.
1. BM and TP would be the first to tell us about this last year, but one thought everybody knew and other never heard about it. Doesn't compute.
2. I've never seen tire warmers with two separate connections. It could be two pralell lines internaly but again not very likely.
3. It's not the supplier that should loose his contract, but the machanic. Failing to allert soemthing he must have felt caused the incidedent. (Said by a person that has had to alert the rider of similar bad news.)
4. As talpa said how did he get through the other lefties without registeing the lack of grip?

More fairytales ...... yes I know there's more Rossifan mileage in the fairytales, and that sometimes the reality may be boring

Keep going, your stories are as laughable as "Rossi did an amazing pass at the corkscrew" ( when in fact it was one of the worst bit of riding and sportsmanship for many a year in GP's. )

or how about the classics ...... Stoner has more electronics than the others

or Babels classic ...... Gyros can be used to tell the position of the bike on the track.

Thick as two bricks

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (is200 @ Feb 7 2010, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talpa, your suggestion re accepting responsibility for the warm up lap is pretty poor. The crash was a result of a faulty tire warmer. The left side of the warmer was not working but the right was. So he went out with a stone cold left side of the tyre. Needless to say the supplier has one less contract.
The only thing with faulty wiring in the ducati camp is casey stoner. Thats ...... laughable. Whats even more laughable is how you rock heads are buying that ..... It has to be true because somebody with 65 post and no evidence to back it up said so. I know casey can't ever accept responsibility for his .... ups, but if his fans heads weren't so far up his ... maybe then they could see the reality of casey tool-baggery.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 8 2010, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow...never heard of that, I thought warmers had a coil that snaked through the middle? How did he stay on in the first series of lefts at all in this case?

Stoner was going all out at it from the beginning of the warm up lap too, so he stayed back and let all Riders go to do this. So same question here: “How did he stay on in the first series of lefts at all in this case?”

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 8 2010, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep going, your stories are as laughable as "Rossi did an amazing pass at the corkscrew" ( when in fact it was one of the worst bit of riding and sportsmanship for many a year in GP's. )

Thick as two bricks

‘Amizing’ is the part that after being elbowed around 500 meters before and at more less 250 km/hr, Rossi was still trying to get back in the perfect line coming into one of the toughest turns in any MotoGP track.

Stonerboppers unite

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I like Stoner but that strategy of his is not sporting, making other riders wait while he forms up , their tyres & brakes are cooling , there should be a rule that riders must do the warm up lap in grid order.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dannozx10r @ Feb 8 2010, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like Stoner but that strategy of his is not sporting, making other riders wait while he forms up , their tyres & brakes are cooling , there should be a rule that riders must do the warm up lap in grid order.

LMAO, they tried that over here in the states with rolling starts

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Feb 8 2010, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>LMAO, they tried that over here in the states with rolling starts
Naaa, it's done in f1, would be simple enough to implement, & it would make sure Casey never fell off on the warm up lap again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 9 2010, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stonerboppers unite

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Its a portrait!! Bunyip on the left, Barry 'The Great' in the middle, and TP on the right!

Barry's new name, 'The Great' as in the greatest sucker of Stoner's .... that exists. It is rumored that Adriana is seeking a restraining order against Bazza!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dannozx10r @ Feb 8 2010, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like Stoner but that strategy of his is not sporting, making other riders wait while he forms up , their tyres & brakes are cooling , there should be a rule that riders must do the warm up lap in grid order.
It is obviously not illegal, or he would have been stopped from doing it. As for the rest, I would be inclined to agree with you, except I have never heard that any other team or rider has objected to it. Certainly no-one has attempted to emulate it, presumably because of the risk involved which stoner has now demonstrated.

Compared with pushing hard on cold tyres in the early laps of the actual race which has occasionally led to mistakes even from the very greatest at least it has the virtue of a mistake only taking him out and not competitors.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 8 2010, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't remember any tyre warmer issue being reported at the time, nor can I find any reference to one. Either of you guys have a source for this?

is200 knows Casey personally. So I assume it came directly from Stoners mouth. Of course what would Stoner know about it in comparison to the likes of the hard core boppers on here. We all know if it wasn't reported it can't be true! Funny though if it is reported and doesn't fit the bopper faith it is not true either!

As far as Stoner turning up to the grid late? Well when you watch what actually happens rather than what suits the bopper faith then you will see that Stoner doesn't turn up late he just starts slow and finishes hard and at the same time as everyone else. In direct comparison to others who start hard and finish slow.

It is suggested that they must maintain grid order. Well this would effect the object of the bopper faith as the 'Lord' likes to be first on the warm up lap so he can get to the line and pick his arse again before the start.

Why didn't Stoner fall on the first few lefts? Well for the very reason you whinging ....... whinge all the time, ready for it???? He starts off slow and builds pace!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 8 2010, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>‘Amizing’ is the part that after being elbowed around 500 meters before and at more less 250 km/hr, Rossi was still trying to get back in the perfect line coming into one of the toughest turns in any MotoGP track.
You mean that line through the dirt is now the perfect line?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 9 2010, 08:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is200 knows Casey personally. So I assume it came directly from Stoners mouth. Of course what would Stoner know about it in comparison to the likes of the hard core boppers on here. We all know if it wasn't reported it can't be true! Funny though if it is reported and doesn't fit the bopper faith it is not true either!

Proof Please, or are we just suppose to believe you........that's a hard core claim based on very little.....but hey whats new- your a Stoner Bopper.


IMO the CS warm up lap tactic is directly related to the Ducati's fuel consumption issues. I would imagine that CS's bike would be operating on a knife-edge on race day.

The Ducks fuel consumption issues stem back to 07, where they were accused of filling a catch tank with an extra few litres of fuel in the first 6 or so rounds of that year. The official Dorna inquiry found them not guilty even though it seems impossible to prove either way after the fact.....

I'm in agreement that CS's warm-up lap antics are an unfair tactic in this 800cc era. 2 or 3 seconds advantage in the opening lap is a massive gap to chase down, it should be policed with a time limit to arrive ready at the grid position for the field.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 9 2010, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You mean that line through the dirt is now the perfect line?

This is racing Michael....this is racing......having just watched some of the Isle of Man TT and the Norwest 200, the Rossi move at the corkscrew 08 is a storm in a tea cup.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Feb 8 2010, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is200 knows Casey personally. So I assume it came directly from Stoners mouth. Of course what would Stoner know about it in comparison to the likes of the hard core boppers on here. We all know if it wasn't reported it can't be true! Funny though if it is reported and doesn't fit the bopper faith it is not true either!

As far as Stoner turning up to the grid late? Well when you watch what actually happens rather than what suits the bopper faith then you will see that Stoner doesn't turn up late he just starts slow and finishes hard and at the same time as everyone else. In direct comparison to others who start hard and finish slow.

It is suggested that they must maintain grid order. Well this would effect the object of the bopper faith as the 'Lord' likes to be first on the warm up lap so he can get to the line and pick his arse again before the start.

Why didn't Stoner fall on the first few lefts? Well for the very reason you whinging ....... whinge all the time, ready for it???? He starts off slow and builds pace!
I agree with you except that yamaka asked a reasonable question and is not a stoner basher.

If the rossi(fumi)istas choose to dis-believe is2000's connection with stoner that's fine, but I personally find the perspective from his occasional posts interesting and would like him to continue.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Feb 8 2010, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is racing Michael....this is racing......having just watched some of the Isle of Man TT and the Norwest 200, the Rossi move at the corkscrew 08 is a storm in a tea cup.
I don't think we need to go there again for the umpteenth time but was replying to V in kind; the emoticons are not working on the computer I am using just now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 8 2010, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sepang post party