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Rossi has a tiny "skip out" of the back and the Boppers are claiming it was a slide that would have equalled an orbit around the sun.

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Post away with the snapshots of such skip outs ........ but that video is indisputable
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a person that claims to be a GP fan for 40 years and cant tell the diff between a "step out" from a wicked smokin tire slide.. but when Stacey Stoner gets it side ways his Stoneretes think hes the best thing since sliced bread with extra vegemite.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 17 2010, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Come for a ride with me Barry, I'd love to learn how to control a slide under your technical tutorship - oh you can't, you're 11,000 miles away...how convenient.

Look, when I slide I slide wth STYLE

ELSBARRY3.jpg


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......... and by that I mean .......... check out the "gear" ...
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Edit: I just noticed this Gem Arab
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 17 2010, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sliding a bike into a corner is usually accomplished via the back brake.

That goes down in the "Book of Stupid" alongside Babels famous Gyro theories
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We aren't talking " kids skids" on their pushies here, You have absolutely no idea
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It would be useless me trying to "tutor" you Arab. You are a Pomm aren't you?, and it is usually so difficult to extract the couch from a Pomm's arse, that there is no time left for riding
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Actually I'm only joking, I actually feel for you guys, we are lucky here with a modicum of "space" to ride still, I know its hard for you guys and I think its a big reason why there aren't many Brit. riders at the top these days
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 17 2010, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>when Stacey Stoner gets it side ways his Stoneretes think hes the best thing since sliced bread with extra vegemite.

It is isn't it
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I apologize on behalf of all Australians for Barry' the great'. Most of us are genuine motorcycle racing fans and not single minded stoner cocksuckers....Barry your posts are highly embarassing and bring into question the intellectual ability of human beings as a species
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 16 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can see why you think that
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....... stoner elitist. Do you have some kind of Alzheimer's that made you forget everything about motogp except stoner?
 
Just as a fair-minded person would agree that powersliding a two-stroke was more difficult to slide than a four stroke, and that there have been many skillful proponents over the past decades, the same person should agree that Stoners slides at around 240kph at Phillip Island WERE quite special and that Casey is the most recognizable slider currently racing 800s.

It is also evidence that refutes the claims that Casey has had more traction control on the Ducati than his opposition on other machinery have.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 16 2010, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Edit: I just noticed this Gem Arab
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That goes down in the "Book of Stupid" alongside Babels famous Gyro theories
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We aren't talking " kids skids" on their pushies here, You have absolutely no idea
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It would be useless me trying to "tutor" you Arab. You are a Pomm aren't you?, and it is usually so difficult to extract the couch from a Pomm's arse, that there is no time left for riding
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Actually I'm only joking, I actually feel for you guys, we are lucky here with a modicum of "space" to ride still, I know its hard for you guys and I think its a big reason why there aren't many Brit. riders at the top these days
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Great...can we see some footage of you backing in your 749 now? As you yourself said:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 16 2010, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Post away with the snapshots of such skip outs ........ but that video is indisputable
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Taken out of context you're right it does sound like an extract from the "book of stupid" - but as you are quite aware, I am referring to a road bike. If you meant that I was stating the obvious, I apologise - going by your post, you were suggesting that sliding into a corner was largely achieved by locking the rear on the downshift - purely through engine braking. Downshift induced slides, much like slides off the throttle are not commonplace amongst road riders, and are usually accomplished using the back brake as opposed to the downshift which as you were initially so eager to inform us, as a road rider, you can execute in your sleep on your 749 - (or more precisely, in your dreams).

In racing, Nicky opts for the much larger 255mm rear disc size, compared to say the 200mm option favoured by Dani. Why could that be Barry?

I would love to be 'tutored' by you Barry. Name your fee..I'd like nothing more to hand over the keys to my bike so you could show me how to peel off that perfect slide. You'd struggle to peel a satsuma mate.

. I can't really argue with you when it comes to the 'Book of Stupid' being as you authored it Barry. Not only is it your finest work - but the excerpts which you have seen fit to serialise on here in the form of your posts are occasionally highly amusing - (albeit as Talpa say's, painfully embarrassing). Could I have a limited edition signed copy shipped over?

The notion that Vale is incapable of sliding a bike is almost as ludicrous as your last paragraph.

Aren't so many British riders at the top these days????
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There's a little series called World Superbike commencing in your neck of the woods in the next few days - why not have a look, you might be quite surprised. The lack of British riders in GP on the other hand, is due to the paucity of personal sponsorship and the relative indifference toward bike racing as a sport in this country. This is why Dorna actively charged Alberto Puig with the task of recruiting British raw talent for the Moto GP Academy.

At 61m people and counting you are correct this country is chronically overcrowded and it does feel very claustrophobic in comparison to Oz - you live in a very expansive and beautiful country. Over here, it is not all paved with concrete yet, and yes it is still possible to ride off road here as your own boy Casey discovered when he came over in '01 with the sole purpose of furthering his career
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The one thing I won't dispute with you is the fact you do indeed look a complete ... by the way - and although that would follow, I still doubt that's you in the picture.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 16 2010, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Look, when I slide I slide wth STYLE

ELSBARRY3.jpg

How long did you have to hold the bike in that position for your mate taking the picture?
 
C,mon Arab, can,t you see that the background is blurry
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You,re a lean old bugger, Barry. I always imagined you as short and chunky with a beer in your hand.....................
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Feb 18 2010, 07:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Taken out of context you're right it does sound like an extract from the "book of stupid" - but as you are quite aware, I am referring to a road bike. If you meant that I was stating the obvious, I apologise - going by your post, you were suggesting that sliding into a corner was largely achieved by locking the rear on the downshift - purely through engine braking.


You have absolutely no idea
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Road or dirt most slides are induced by weight distribution, and throttle control.

What a couch potato
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Jabbing the brake or downshifting to induce a slide
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pfft ........ You go and try that then, and video it for us whlst your at it
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Good stuff barry/arra/buny/curve/talpa/austin/sacky etc...
btw Barry you fell for the old photobucket mistake.great piccy though.lol
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 18 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>btw Barry you fell for the old photobucket mistake.great piccy though.lol

meh, I don't mind
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Feb 18 2010, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You,re a lean old bugger, Barry. I always imagined you as short and chunky with a beer in your hand.....................

Yeah I'm pretty old but the kids/grandkids ensure I stay fit
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And as you can see I still ride quite a bit ....... no obsessively
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Well I more think they wear out any chance of fat ever building up on me
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 17 2010, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have absolutely no idea
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Road or dirt most slides are induced by weight distribution, and throttle control.

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Jabbing the brake or downshifting to induce a slide
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pfft ........ You go and try that then, and video it for us whlst your at it
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Flat tracking - yes, most slides are induced by weight distribution and throttle control - but you were initially talking about achieving this slowing into corners you ..... - go back and read your own post in which you then went on to talk about the advent of the slipper clutch (which you seem to believe was at Rossi's behest because of his supposed inability to control a slide). You evidently have this rambling erratic childlike mind that is utterly unable to follow the thread of an argument. You randomly inject obscure childlike responses which veer off at ever increasing tangents. Your protracted gyro dispute with Mick, Chockmoose, Al and Babel was the prime example of this. In fact practically everyone active on the forum at the time tried to bring you back on track, but your debating and discourse derails every time.

No Barry most slides we see today in road racing into a corner are enabled by the back brake - the engine braking plays a very minor if any part depending on the adjustment of the slipper clutch. I SAY AGAIN IN SIMPLE TERMS - WATCH FOOTAGE OF CRAIG JONES an example par excellence of backing in under the rear brake. Yes on the dirt weight distribution and throttle control are crucial, I don't disagree, but also the rear brake is intrinsic to flat tracking. Those delightful powerslides on the 500's by Mick and McCoy amongst others were all about weight distribution and throttle control - the back brake was irrelevant - but you were originally talking about sliding a 749 and a 1098 on the entry to a corner ie. backing it in and not off road riding/dirt riding at all, and that is what I responded to...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Feb 16 2010, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Matter of fact I have done them with ease on a 749S and Duc.just slowing into corners, and the 1098/1198 is even better than that for it.
Presumably you cite the 1098 as being more effective due to the higher engine braking. Clearly then you were referring to the downshift - although I concede, throttle control and body position are still of relevance...or could it be you yourself meant the back brake. Enlighten us...what is the Barry Machine methodology behind sliding a bike when slowing into a corner if it doesn't involve either the rear brake, or engine braking? Purely body position and throttle control???
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Tell us Barry, after all you do it with ease on your 749.

I however have never claimed to be the king of slide unlike yourself - go back and read my original post again in which I commented on the fact that this is mainly the preserve of the road racer. You do not '... the back brake' to produce a slide - where did I say that? and into corners, yes I do slide the rear under progressive use of the back brake - but very rarely have I managed this on the downshift. I made all that clear. As I said quite unequivocally - if I was a competent exponent of the slide in my road riding, then yes I would damn well video it and post it on here for all to see. In common with most amateur riders I am not - and neither I suspect are you, and that is the point I am making.

Why don't you actually absorb what people post on here instead of humiliating yourself with your puerile and kneejerk replies?
 

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