moto3

First,as far as I know,Moto3 bike on the MCN website,its good looking as in a `Cagiva` LINKY THING way.http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/273895/images/ioda-moto3-bike.jpg



aint done that right........help please,ta in advance.

LOOKS Tiny wonder what it sounds like a lawnmower ?

Its got a TM engine pushing 40hp,but they say theres more to come.Its one beautiful machine though,must be that red colour.

maybe moto3 will finally push manufacturers to make a legit 250 for the road/track

Good last race, Marquez was sensible and did everything right for a well earned world title!! Great for Smith to leave 125 on a win, break the unbeaten Spanish record and get a win for GB in what has been a quiet year

Pretty boring race...but like Tom said it was just because Marquez needed to relax and take the championship. Congratulations to him! A well deserved championship.

Why is the news silent on what Marquez's plans are for next year? Just assume another year in 125?

eltoro said:

Why is the news silent on what Marquez's plans are for next year? Just assume another year in 125?

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I heard he was moving up. Can't remember the team but i think the deal is that Ajo might be taking over a slot allocated for another team because they can only field one rider. Having said that i'm not sure at all, and i think its a Dorna Political issue as usual because with moto2 over subscribed and 125 thinning out badly, they want to keep top teams and top riders in the 125cc class if they can.

eltoro said:

Why is the news silent on what Marquez's plans are for next year? Just assume another year in 125?

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http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/vazquez+and+zarco+with+Ajo+motorsport+in+2011



There you go, he's moving up

Danny Kent has got the RedBull Ajo Derbi ride for next year!! That is the championship winning bike

van Motomatters.com,



Failed Dutch TV Deal Brings Molenaar 125cc Team To Brink Of Withdrawal



Sponsorship at all levels of motorcycle racing is a difficult proposition, as witnessed by the fact that the factory Yamaha team, home of the reigning MotoGP world champion, is yet to announce a title sponsorship deal, despite the tens of millions of fans that watch each race live on TV. How much more difficult then is it to find funding for the support classes, where a competitive 125cc entry may cost between 1 and 2 million euros a year, and TV coverage is far more restricted geographically?



If you are the Molenaar Racing team, the answer to that question is "nearly impossible". The Molenaar team, which fielded Randy Krummenacher and Luis Salom last season, and is schedule to run Jasper Iwema alongside Salom in 2011, is on the verge of withdrawing from the 2011 season, after several key sponsors pulled out during the past couple of weeks. The reason the sponsors gave for pulling of the project was simple: for the second year running, it looks like the Netherlands - the Molenaar team's home country - will be without TV coverage, as the hoped-for deal between Dorna and the satellite channel Sport 1 (no relation of the German-language sports channel of the same name) has failed to materialize. The withdrawal of Molenaar's sponsors leaves the team short some 350,000 euros for the entire season, meaning the team would just about make it to their home round at Assen, and then forced to pull out if no sponsorship was forthcoming.



This is the second year in a row that a TV deal for Holland has fallen through: last year, Dorna had agreed a contract with another cable channel, Car Channel, which was cancelled at the last moment after Car Channel failed to fulfill its financial obligations. The deal with Sport 1 looked much more promising - the channel has a solid financial foundation, and an extremely reliable reputation - but the deal finally foundered on the same rock that killed off the deal with the previous rights hold, RTL: Cost. Dorna is reported to want some 300,000 euros for the TV rights for the Netherlands, but neither Sport 1 or any of the other candidates believed they could recoup such an investment from the deal, especially as the obligation to fund full, free-to-air coverage of Holland's home MotoGP round (costing around another 300,000 euros) comes on top of the fee for the TV rights from Dorna.



Dorna faces a problem selling TV rights in countries such as the Netherlands: the country has a cable TV coverage of some 97%, and just about every single cable subscriber receives 20+ non-Dutch TV channels at no extra cost. Among those channels is the BBC, and given the near ubiquitous ability of Dutch people to understand English, and the fact that the BBC coverage has no breaks for adverts, competing for Dutch MotoGP fans against the BBC is a very tough sell. Both commercial channels needing to run adverts during the 45-minute MotoGP race, and pay-per-view channels charging an extra subscription fee to watch MotoGP races have a difficult time competing against the BBC, especially given the extensive coverage and high production values the British broadcaster puts into its MotoGP coverage.



The one thing missing from the BBC coverage is coverage of the support classes. The 125cc and Moto2 races are hidden away under the red button, and special access via the digital TV services is not available outside the UK. This means that while the stumbling block for most MotoGP TV deals in the Netherlands is the cost of competing against the BBC, Dorna still loses out if they do not secure a separate TV deal for Holland. While MotoGP's commercial rights holder need not worry about losing much audience for the premier class in Holland without a Dutch TV deal - Dutch fans can watch the races on the BBC, after all - the support classes go completely without coverage in Holland, other than for those fans willing to stump up the 80 or so euros that a season video pass on the MotoGP.com website requires.



And it is in precisely these support classes that the Dutch have an active interest. Dutch riders have competed in the 125cc class - some for the Dutch-based Molenaar team (once home to British rider Danny Webb), some for Spanish and Italian teams - and Dutch engineers, team managers, and a host of support staff have been involved in the series without interruption, almost from the start of the series back in 1949. Jorge Lorenzo's team manager Wilco Zeelenberg is a case in point: the Dutchman was part of a tight group of competitive 250 riders in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and had a large fan following in his home country.



With no TV coverage of the support classes, national media coverage of the Dutch riders in the 125cc classes is vastly reduced. Over the past couple of years, Dutch riders have found it increasingly difficult to raise sponsorship to compete in the series, as the benefits for sponsors in their home market are very limited indeed. Though sponsorship may still be an attractive prospect for Dutch businesses targeting Spanish or Italian customers, their needs are better served by sponsoring a Spanish rider, rather than a rider from their native land.



So the Molenaar team now has until Friday to find 350,000 euros in sponsorship. If they fail, then one of the best-organized and most technically adept teams in the paddock will be forced to pull out. The loss of the Molenaar team will be felt keenly: Hans Spaan, another giant of the 125cc class, will disappear from the paddock, after some 25 years of preparing (and formerly racing) 125cc two-strokes. With the loss of Jasper Iwema, the paddock will lose not just its last Dutch competitor, but also a rider widely expected to regularly break into the top 10 this season. And the loss of Luis Salom means that a rider tipped to compete for podiums in 2011 will be left without a ride. The lack of a TV deal in Holland may end up costing Dorna dearly in the long run.

its .... the credit crunch is bad

and the main motogp field struggles to get 16 bikes on the grid thats crap for viewing and sponsors when points go down to 15th place

so it aint going to help the lower classes that dont get as much coverage.



as regards Dutch tv coverage id get a UK freesat type system the box/receiver and satellite dish set up

point it at astra2 satellite 28.2e and watch BBC Coverage (English)

im not sure about voltage 240v etc but im sure something like freesat/free to air box is available

in Europe iv'e got a german box works ok here



astra2 coverage http://www.ses-astra..._2B_north_M.jpg

a small 60cm/70cm dish is big enough



thats

motogp Quali live( red button) you prob wont get red button coverage via your cable



125.moto2 races live on the (red button) and motogp race live on bbc2 as a rule



or german tv think they got it in 2011 again



if you can get sport1 channel Germany (ex-DSF) They show motogp German lang only

125 moto2 motogp via satellite astra1 19.2e not sure if its available locally via pay tv / cable etc







Q.What TV Services can you get in Holland free or pay ?

Sometimes even the BBC dont show everything though.

I remember last year watching the 125s & halfway through the race they switched to equestian sports.

They left a venue with 120,000 spectators to follow one with maybe 300

in their grandstands.

Investing in cable tv this year, heard the comentators know what their onabout on eurosport too.

anyone know why we pay a tv license fee for tv we dont want?

BBC,s coverage is second rate!!!

What a sad state of affairs. Hope they find a sponsor soon.

Forget the BBC, Grandpa Parish and uncle Buck? No thanks.



Try the Eurosport Player. It has saved me when travelling (those Sunday dinners you just can't get out of) and out and about during a race weekend.

Live in HD too.



Gotta love Toby and Julian.

I like almost everything Dutch, so I hope they can work it out and stay.

Tom said:

Danny Kent has got the RedBull Ajo Derbi ride for next year!! That is the championship winning bike

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My mistake Ajo have expanded their team structure and Kent will not be in a team leading position, or on the best equipment.

Jumkie said:

I like almost everything Dutch, so I hope they can work it out and stay.

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Apparently its over and the team has folded, Iwema at Valencia looking for another ride.



Day 1 of testing today, As you would expect Terrol was at the front, but the others are all a bit shaken up. Interestingly Cortese is now down as riding a Honda, not an Aprilia. Maybe they are pushing for the last 125 title so they can complete the set.



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Pigeon said:

its .... the credit crunch is bad

and the main motogp field struggles to get 16 bikes on the grid thats crap for viewing and sponsors when points go down to 15th place

so it aint going to help the lower classes that dont get as much coverage.



as regards Dutch tv coverage id get a UK freesat type system the box/receiver and satellite dish set up

point it at astra2 satellite 28.2e and watch BBC Coverage (English)

im not sure about voltage 240v etc but im sure something like freesat/free to air box is available

in Europe iv'e got a german box works ok here



astra2 coverage http://www.ses-astra..._2B_north_M.jpg

a small 60cm/70cm dish is big enough



thats

motogp Quali live( red button) you prob wont get red button coverage via your cable



125.moto2 races live on the (red button) and motogp race live on bbc2 as a rule



or german tv think they got it in 2011 again



if you can get sport1 channel Germany (ex-DSF) They show motogp German lang only

125 moto2 motogp via satellite astra1 19.2e not sure if its available locally via pay tv / cable etc







Q.What TV Services can you get in Holland free or pay ?

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Most people here have at least basic cable, which usually includes BBC1 and BBC2 (depends on the region). So we get Cox and Parrish. Oh joy....

Jumkie said:

I like almost everything Dutch, so I hope they can work it out and stay.

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On behalf of the entire population of the Netherlands: we like you too, Jumkie, hehe...

hmm, a bit quiet round here, well here are the results from the 125cc race at Qatar:

position

1 Nicolas TEROL SPA Bankia Aspar Team 125cc Aprilia 151.0 38'28.687

2 Sandro CORTESE GER Intact-Racing Team Germany Aprilia 150.5 +7.710

3 Sergio GADEA SPA Pev-Blusens-SMX-Paris Hilton Aprilia 150.4 +9.147

4 Efren VAZQUEZ SPA Avant-AirAsia-Ajo Derbi 150.4 +9.514

5 Jonas FOLGER GER Red Bull Ajo MotorSport Aprilia 150.4 +9.698

6 Johann ZARCO FRA Avant-AirAsia-Ajo Derbi 150.0 +15.260

7 Alberto MONCAYO SPA Andalucia Banca Civica Aprilia 150.0 +15.352

8 Luis SALOM SPA RW Racing GP Aprilia 150.0 +15.696

9 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Pev-Blusens-SMX-Paris Hilton Aprilia 150.0 +15.910

10 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR Andalucia Banca Civica Aprilia 149.2 +27.396

11 Hector FAUBEL SPA Bankia Aspar Team 125cc Aprilia 148.3 +42.563

12 Jasper IWEMA NED Ongetta-Abbink Metaal Aprilia 148.2 +43.772

13 Danny KENT GBR Red Bull Ajo MotorSport Aprilia 148.2 +44.001

14 Simone GROTZKYJ ITA Phonica Racing Aprilia 148.2 +44.272

15 Louis ROSSI FRA Matteoni Racing Aprilia 147.8 +50.030

16 Danny WEBB GBR Mahindra Racing Mahindra 147.8 +50.424

17 Niklas AJO FIN TT Motion Events Racing Aprilia 147.1 +1'01.545

18 Taylor MACKENZIE GBR Phonica Racing Aprilia 147.0 +1'02.931

19 Zulfahmi KHAIRUDDIN MAL Airasia-Sic-Ajo Derbi 146.9 +1'05.192

20 Luigi MORCIANO ITA Team Italia FMI Aprilia 146.9 +1'05.273

21 Marcel SCHROTTER GER Mahindra Racing Mahindra 146.8 +1'05.396

22 Alessandro TONUCCI ITA Team Italia FMI Aprilia 146.4 +1'12.458

23 Jakub KORNFEIL CZE Ongetta-Centro Seta Aprilia 145.3 +1'30.629

24 Daniel KARTHEININGER GER Caretta Technology Forward Team KTM 145.3 +1'30.792

25 Harry STAFFORD GBR Ongetta-Centro Seta Aprilia 145.3 +1'30.798

26 Giulian PEDONE SWI Phonica Racing Aprilia 143.9 +1'54.387

27 Francesco MAURIELLO ITA WTR-Ten10 Racing Aprilia 143.9 +1'54.548

28 Adrian MARTIN SPA Bankia Aspar Team 125cc Aprilia 113.1 4 Laps

Not Classified

Joan PERELLO SPA Matteoni Racing Aprilia 140.9 9 Laps

Hiroki ONO JPN Caretta Technology Forward Team KTM 147.6 11 Laps

Terrol was incredible this weekend, goes to show what a year of keeping up with Marquez (or trying to) does. I don't think he will have such an advantage all season long but i expect him to win a lot of races this year, i will be majorly surprised if he doesn't win the title. With Ajo and Aspar taking it in turns the last few years it makes sense too. It is easy to under rate Terrol, he lost last years world title by just 14 points, when he opted to sit out of the German GP because he was mindful of his back injury. A mature decision but he would most likely finished on the podium, probably even second. It would have made the last round more interesting, although in my opinion not changed the outcome. Anyway that doesnt matter anymore.



Who will finish 2nd? There is some tallent about, but i get the feeling most riders will be thinking about moto3 already.