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Rins would be the expected championship winner if he stays. Although, that doesn't seem to be working out for Espargaro in Moto2. Miller on a KTM may be able to play the Redding role.

.... you Mavrick

Rins rims.

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.... you Mavrick

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Why?


 


Rins seems to have taken over from Salom as the guy who has his head stitched on just right. I'm no longer predicting a Salom win in the championship. Given current form, I think it's very close.

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Why?


 


Rins seems to have taken over from Salom as the guy who has his head stitched on just right. I'm no longer predicting a Salom win in the championship. Given current form, I think it's very close.

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Him throwing a hissy fit last season and giving up. Embarrassing.


 


And yeah, Rins is riding very smart.

In hindsight, Vinales' hissy fit has some justification. His manager nearly killed his whole career. Now he's on a KTM, he's challenging for the championship.


 


Maria Herrera was very disappointing. I was really looking forward to seeing her in Moto3. As a wildcard, I wasn't expecting much and would have been impressed by, say, qualifying in the teens as Ana Carrasco did. But qualifying in 31st, and crashing out on the first lap .... Hopefully we'll see a better race next time. As I have a strong tendency to support the underdog, I'd really like to see a female racer do well, as Maria has in the CEV.

AnnoyingTwit

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In hindsight, Vinales' hissy fit has some justification. His manager nearly killed his whole career. Now he's on a KTM, he's challenging for the championship.


 


Maria Herrera was very disappointing. I was really looking forward to seeing her in Moto3. As a wildcard, I wasn't expecting much and would have been impressed by, say, qualifying in the teens as Ana Carrasco did. But qualifying in 31st, and crashing out on the first lap .... Hopefully we'll see a better race next time. As I have a strong tendency to support the underdog, I'd really like to see a female racer do well, as Maria has in the CEV.

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yeah but you know I think it was just a little bit too much pressure on her. bit like Marini last time around in misano. would be cool if she could land a semi-decent ride next year in the WC, that should give a clearer impression of her potential.

CEV is .... and artificially elevated with ........ prestige, thanks Mary for proving my point.

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CEV is .... and artificially elevated with ........ prestige, thanks Mary for proving my point.

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And what point did Beaubier's results from a full season on a KTM prove to you?

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And what point did Beaubier's results from a full season on a KTM prove to you?

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That he was .....  Look, you make a good point sir.  but...


...and unlike that other euro RC kid, wasnt kept on to develop until he did. I bet Mary like her other compatriots gets multiple multiple chances until they force feed them to us.


Moral: 'most' these kids have talent, focus, and desire, however the opportunities to prove it are skewed.



Im laughing right now because here ive been harping this .... on the heels of the news American J Herrin is headed to moto2. Truth be told Herrin is probably our 6-7th best rider and I fear will do our AMA prestige a disservice. The kid has talent but seriously lacks focus and determination. He is more worried about his GF Tisha than putting in the hard work required to complete with Moto2 sharks. His recent AMA title was a gift, rather soft given Hayes was penalized almost vindictively 3 time for supposed jump starts (oh dont think for a minute they're beyond it, just as Mladin), not to mention two mechanical DNFs to start the season with zip points. I seriously doubt Herrin will amount to anything. So please dont consider his ... a good representative of the AMA. Hes a kid with a silver spoon lacking guts.

Jum,

In some ways my bagging of Sep riders reinforces your point re: Euros/CEV/RBR. Yeah, they're all soft for not semi-bankrupting their parents to live away from their friends, school and family. At 15.

While locals get to attend school, get their heads together/encouraged with the support of their peers. Sleep in their own bedrooms.

Years ago Matt Oxley wrote about how it was a little perverse that the likes of Stephan Bianco (Youngest 125 Entrant at the time) were risking their lives for corporate sponsors. He seems to have gone quiet on that score. I stilI have misgivings. At 15, who is writing your contract?

I love the Stoner tale, but he's an exception. Ant West was the moneybags of the local proddy scene.

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Jum,

In some ways my bagging of Sep riders reinforces your point re: Euros/CEV/RBR. Yeah, they're all soft for not semi-bankrupting their parents to live away from their friends, school and family. At 15.

While locals get to attend school, get their heads together/encouraged with the support of their peers. Sleep in their own bedrooms.

Years ago Matt Oxley wrote about how it was a little perverse that the likes of Stephan Bianco (Youngest 125 Entrant at the time) were risking their lives for corporate sponsors. He seems to have gone quiet on that score. I stilI have misgivings. At 15, who is writing your contract?

I love the Stoner tale, but he's an exception. Ant West was the moneybags of the local proddy scene.

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Excellent post.  I'm gonna steal the entire thing for my next essay (which I will attempt to write without sounding like such an .......--big ask).  Let me summarize a conversation I had just this week with my bud's kid  about racing (actually took my bike to his dad to get some work done).  I asked him how he was doing, as I hadn't been able to go to the track lately (I used to spend a bit there circa BK, Before Kids).  He said he hasn't been racing much lately.  Oh, really?  Whats up, I asked.  He needed to save up for prom (which btw has also become such a ........ event to fleece kids, but oh well, one rant at a time).  He basically said he couldn't be spending more or asking his parents to throw money at his "hobby" of racing (he called it a hobby though he is fairly decent, much faster than most adult "expert" trackdayers, he has won a few races at his level, albeit a small league).  I was a bit humbled because he is a teenager (16), and most teenagers are unaware about what parents do for them in terms of expenditures.  His dad works on my bikes as a side gig but he normally works construction.  He was also into racing, and did it at a limited level, he was decent enough to run a few AMA races as "grid filler".  Anyway, I've had this conversation before with a few other kids and their parents, and the ones that were making it happen had either parents who were semi-independently wealthy or well-off enough to foot the bill or parents who were putting it all on the line for the long shot, in a sport that requires lots of loot  (unlike say soccer which only requires a ball and shoes).  One particular family I know, the kid crashed, broke a few bones, which wasn't a big deal, but he actually refused the ambulance ride to the hospital because that would have been a few thousand bucks, no BS.  His Dad drove him to the hospital for treatment after they deemed together it wasn't life threatening.  I bet some would call this bad parenting.  Maybe, up for debate I suppose.  He explained later that saved them 8000 bucks.  Crazy right? Well it turned out because the dad decided to work part-time he lost his medical benefits.  So they had to go on a piece-meal medical insurance plan (out of pocket).  It covered most of the repairs to the broken bones but .... like ambulance rides were not entirely covered.  Btw, I totally believed him because in 2000 I crashed my bike riding the canyon, I got an ambulance ride (45 mins from the nearest hospital), I got a bill for 12K, which was covered because I had a good job. I honestly don't think I could have had the presence of mind to forego an ambulance if my kid had crashed at the track, that just seemed crazy to me.  But some parents are actually making such decisions like this that we never hear about.  Now add to this the possibility that they could suffer a fatal crash, like young Red Bull  RCup racer Peter Lenz,13  (who most of the kid racers in my area still wear a patch for on their leathers).  I personally couldn't do it.

Jack Miller doing well... Honda turned up the FTR wick??

Miller does his best work in mixed conditions like that. Could be the one to watch if the race is in sketchy weather.

Jack Miller = Bravery > outright skill.


 


Which isn't to bag him - he will come right. He's shown he has the ability to ride with the throttle pinned. That's half the battle right there.

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2012: Moto3: Alex Marquez; Moto2: Jordi Torres


2011: 125GP: Alex Rins; Moto2: Jordi Torres


2010: 125GP: Maverick Vinales; Moto2: Carmelo Gomez


2009: 125GP: Alberto Moncayo; Supersport: Kev Coghlan


2008: 125GP: Efren Vasquez; Supersport: Angel Campillo


2007: 125GP: Stefan Bradl; Supersport: Paul Gowland


2006: 125GP: Pol Espargaro; Supersport: David Salom


2005: 125GP: 2nd Bradley Smith; Supersport: Arturo Ibanez


2004: 125GP: Aleix Espargaro; Supersport: Martin Cardenas


2003: 125GP: Alvaro Bautista; Supersport: Ivan Silva


2002: 125GP: Hector Barbera; 250GP: Hector Faubel


2001: 125GP: 2nd Casey Stoner; 250GP: Alex Debon


 


Looks like one of the, if not the, most important race series on the planet if you intend heading to FIM GP.

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Jack Miller = Bravery > outright skill.

 

Which isn't to bag him - he will come right. He's shown he has the ability to ride with the throttle pinned. That's half the battle right there.

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Spot on. Give him a bike with equal straight line speed, he'll go a long way towards a championship. I think he's getting the equipment next year

I hope so, he's got a lot of bottle. Rain is the great leveller, where machine advantages are evened out. He does well in the rain, just like the other aussie, whassisname on the Suzuki, did in MotoGP. And nearly all Ducati/Spies results since Casey quit were in dodgy weather


 


 


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I hope so, he's got a lot of bottle. Rain is the great leveller, where machine advantages are evened out. He does well in the rain, just like the other aussie, whassisname on the Suzuki, did in MotoGP. And nearly all Ducati/Spies results since Casey quit were in dodgy weather

 

 

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I remember Jack being interviewed by Beattie on the grid at PI. Wearing a manky beanie and mentioning that his qualifying was "....". He's done well for himself this year, making pretty boy Sissis look a bit average.

Damn pity that Fahmi is not in the race.


 


Championship leader Salom on pole while his rivals trail behind. Compare that to the moto2 qualifying.


 


When was that last tiime there was a Honda on the front row of the grid?  Edit: A Honda LEADING(!)