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Mat Mladin

Thats true, remember Shakey left GP because he'd rather be at the top in a lower series than at the bottom in a higher series, kinda makes sense. No point going unless you got the bike to back you up.
 
Mladin is a different person if you meet him in person. I always thought he was a top knotch racer, but not the nicest guy around. I was having a conversation with one of the Honda mechanics at Starbucks the day before the last superbike 200 at daytona. I asked who he thought was going to win the championship. He pointed to a guy sitting on a bench reading a magazine and said "that man over there might have something to say about it". There was Mat in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I started a conversation with him and he was actually really cool but still very straight forward. I had a pit pass the next day and watched the race. After he won the race I was walking past the Suzuki pits and he looked over at me and called me over to say hello. I think he doesnt particularly like reporters, but to me who he doesnt know from adam he was cool. As I see it most of the people here are basing their opinion of the man on what someone else has written. As far as the statement that he is a good rider I would suggest you line up his competition and draw a comparison. How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Who is the winningest superbike racer in AMA history? He has soundly beaten Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else. He is an outstanding rider who happens to make more money than most Motogp riders. Why would he leave. This new season I think he will win another championship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Jan 1 2007, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mladin is a different person if you meet him in person. I always thought he was a top knotch racer, but not the nicest guy around. I was having a conversation with one of the Honda mechanics at Starbucks the day before the last superbike 200 at daytona. I asked who he thought was going to win the championship. He pointed to a guy sitting on a bench reading a magazine and said "that man over there might have something to say about it". There was Mat in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I started a conversation with him and he was actually really cool but still very straight forward. I had a pit pass the next day and watched the race. After he won the race I was walking past the Suzuki pits and he looked over at me and called me over to say hello. I think he doesnt particularly like reporters, but to me who he doesnt know from adam he was cool. As I see it most of the people here are basing their opinion of the man on what someone else has written. As far as the statement that he is a good rider I would suggest you line up his competition and draw a comparison. How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Who is the winningest superbike racer in AMA history? He has soundly beaten Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else. He is an outstanding rider who happens to make more money than most Motogp riders. Why would he leave. This new season I think he will win another championship.
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We have a real Mladin fan! Welcome to the site, mate. Make yourself at home.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Jan 1 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mladin is a different person if you meet him in person. I always thought he was a top knotch racer, but not the nicest guy around. I was having a conversation with one of the Honda mechanics at Starbucks the day before the last superbike 200 at daytona. I asked who he thought was going to win the championship. He pointed to a guy sitting on a bench reading a magazine and said "that man over there might have something to say about it". There was Mat in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I started a conversation with him and he was actually really cool but still very straight forward. I had a pit pass the next day and watched the race. After he won the race I was walking past the Suzuki pits and he looked over at me and called me over to say hello. I think he doesnt particularly like reporters, but to me who he doesnt know from adam he was cool. As I see it most of the people here are basing their opinion of the man on what someone else has written. As far as the statement that he is a good rider I would suggest you line up his competition and draw a comparison. How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Who is the winningest superbike racer in AMA history? He has soundly beaten Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else. He is an outstanding rider who happens to make more money than most Motogp riders. Why would he leave. This new season I think he will win another championship.
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Wow! A Mladin fan, a rare ting indeed.

How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Not many I presume as they moved on into higher levels in motorsport to test themselves? e.g Nicky Hayden.

"Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else." not exactly the best racers there have ever been, not taking anything away from them, but they are small fry on the big stage.

It's nice to see he's a nice guy, I've never judged him on how he is as person, I want to see his riding do the talking, which he has proved with 6 AMA championships, bt how will he be rememberered?

Mladin? That guy who won a lot of DOMESTIC championships and never stepped up to the world stage, and when he did he compained of fatigue in the 1 WSBK race he took part in?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jan 1 2007, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow! A Mladin fan, a rare ting indeed.

How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Not many I presume as they moved on into higher levels in motorsport to test themselves? e.g Nicky Hayden.

"Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else." not exactly the best racers there have ever been, not taking anything away from them, but they are small fry on the big stage.

It's nice to see he's a nice guy, I've never judged him on how he is as person, I want to see his riding do the talking, which he has proved with 6 AMA championships, bt how will he be rememberered?

Mladin? That guy who won a lot of DOMESTIC championships and never stepped up to the world stage, and when he did he compained of fatigue in the 1 WSBK race he took part in?

I am not saying he is the best ever, I am saying that he does deserve more credit than he gets. Mat tried 500cc GP racing and it did not work out. Maybe if he tried again it would be different, maybe not. Look at Bayliss and his triumphant return at the last race this season in motogp. He spanked everyone. The same guy who was pretty much run out of motogp due to lack of results. We also must make note of the fact that success at the world stage has a lot to do with riding skill and racecraft, but also the ride you land on. I do not blame him for not running to Motogp for less money and an inferior bike. As far as competition quality I think you are underestimating the talent in the AMA. There are a lot of very talented riders here especially Miguel Duhamel.

I just find it refreshing that in this world of cookie cutter corporate puppets that always say what they are told to say, not what they think, that Mat Mladin has managed to become the most successful AMA Superbike rider in history while speaking his mind and giving all of his detractors fits. Thats why I openly admit to being a Mladin fan.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Dec 31 2006, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We have a real Mladin fan! Welcome to the site, mate. Make yourself at home.

Thank you very much, you are too kind sir. Cheers!
 
Yeah I think Mladin is an aqquired taste. I think a lot of people get put off by the fact that you dont get any sugar coating with Mat.
 
He certainly is an acquired taste Richo.

Mladin gets a pretty bad rap in the states as far as I'm concerned because he doesn't care about being liked while you have guys in the series like the Bostroms and Haydens that are PR machines. Always smiling, always signing autographs and always keeping it clean with the competition and media. Those guys are great, I really enjoy those clans but Mladin is the exact opposite. He'll sit there and tell the media or anyone who will listen that his team is the best, period and that anyone who is making excuses is doing just that. He talks a lot but he's backed it up better than anyone in any domestic series, dare I say ever?

Put that all aside, the numbers speak for themselves. He's dominated AMA Superbikes since 1999. I think Hayden's championship in 2002 had a lot to do with his team and package, it was tough to beat the RC51 that year in any series, especially on a 750cc inline four. I'm still out on Spies, we'll see if he's the real deal. I'm very confident that if Mladin were to go back to GPs he would run up front. No doubt in my mind. He regularly beat/ran with Hayden in the states and I can't see why that wouldn't continue on another stage. Don't forget, he smoked the WSB boys at the Phillip Island test last January after not riding the track since 2000. He's got the stuff.

The one reason why I accept/like Mladin is because he works his ... off and doesn't make excuses. Take 2006 for example, he got smoked in the first half of the season and simply said Ben was beating him and that was that. What does he do? Trains harder and makes a stellar charge for the title in the second half of the season. He's a respectable guy.
 
"I'm very confident that if Mladin were to go back to GPs he would run up front. No doubt in my mind."

Ooost, although i agree with most of the things that you have said about Mat. but i think this is more than a little bit unrealistic. He may have been able to run with hayden 4 years ago, but hayden has improved considerably from a ntional champ to a world champ, and i am relatively confident that if Mat came over now he'd be fighting for top 10's.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Jan 1 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Mladin is a different person if you meet him in person. I always thought he was a top knotch racer, but not the nicest guy around. I was having a conversation with one of the Honda mechanics at Starbucks the day before the last superbike 200 at daytona. I asked who he thought was going to win the championship. He pointed to a guy sitting on a bench reading a magazine and said "that man over there might have something to say about it". There was Mat in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I started a conversation with him and he was actually really cool but still very straight forward. I had a pit pass the next day and watched the race. After he won the race I was walking past the Suzuki pits and he looked over at me and called me over to say hello. I think he doesnt particularly like reporters, but to me who he doesnt know from adam he was cool. As I see it most of the people here are basing their opinion of the man on what someone else has written. As far as the statement that he is a good rider I would suggest you line up his competition and draw a comparison. How many riders have won 6 AMA championships? Who is the winningest superbike racer in AMA history? He has soundly beaten Miguel, The Bostroms, Hodgson, and everyone else. He is an outstanding rider who happens to make more money than most Motogp riders. Why would he leave. This new season I think he will win another championship.
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Go AWAY MAT! you ain't fooling nobody
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Jan 3 2007, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Go AWAY MAT! you ain't fooling nobody
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If ogunsky was Mladin in disguise, he wouldn't have been so nice to us
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Jan 2 2007, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Go AWAY MAT! you ain't fooling nobody
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What's up Mofo, Man you take way too long between posts. You need to hang out here more often on the site man. The balance is way off. We need more of you and less of them.
 
A lot about what you guys are saying about Mladin is true. One thing you may be forgetting though is that the AMA paddock is not the easiest place in the world to be in. There is some top notch competition in the U.S. If you ever get to know Mat, you would realize that he is very blunt and honest. Not only to who ever it is that he is talking to, but also to himself. If you were to ask him if he could compete on a level with Rossi or Hayden (Hayden now, not 3 or 2 years ago) he would say probably not. The guy is a point and shoot racer, no two ways about it and he will most likely stay that way. I have heard recently that his style is changing, but that is neither here nor there. Now if he were on a superbike against guys like Bayliss, Haga, and Corser he would be up front every weekend. He is one of the best superbike racers the world has ever seen.

Also, people think that he is an ... because of the way he thinks about time. He allows time for autographs and friendly conversation but when he is at lunch, family, or work time fans and reporters need to stay away because he is doing somthing else. He views it like "I don't come and bother you at work or when you are with your family, so please dont bother me."

For reference, I am not a Mladin fan. Just one of the few who understands how he thinks.
 
Nice one, i would like to see mat try his hand at wsbk, it would be very interesting to say the least.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagle088 @ Jan 17 2007, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so please dont bother me."

For reference, I am not a Mladin fan. Just one of the few who understands how he thinks.
Fair enough. But if you notice, his riding ability is not really what's in question, it has been his reluctance to move to an international series that is at issue. One could argue that the international series of WSBK and MotoGP is not the pinnacle of racing, I would somewhat agree, but I think the world generally accepts the international series to be the top levels of racing. For his reluctance to move out of the AMA, there is something to say for it, and I think it’s in part that he has coward out (my opinion). He is the current king of AMA, and it is much comfortable. But us, the lowly spectator, want to see a guy challenge himself at all levels, even the ones we perceive to be the highest ones.

As far as his personality. Well he isn't gonna win any contests. But I can appreciate a straight shooter. However, Mat not only comes off as a straight shooter, but a bit of arrogance in the process. Look at Kevin Schwartz, a very straight and honest opinion/assessment he will give you, but not a shred of arrogance. And that is, I think, the difference for how people perceive Mat. Of course, nobody should bother any celebrity while at leisure. But when the sign is posted: autograph session. Well that seems its part of the job. And yes, sometimes he’s not that friendly when the sign is posted. But you may not care, ok, so what. It’s his racing that we come to see, right. Well yes, for most, but some of us like the whole package. After all, there are other racers just as fast (i.e. Ben Spies, Eric Bostrom, Miguel DuHamel, Jake Zemke, etc. and yes, we come to watch them race too, but oh, what a joy when you get to meet them up close while the autograph session sign is posted.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Jan 18 2007, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For his reluctance to move out of the AMA, there is something to say for it, and I think it’s in part that he has coward out (my opinion). He is the current king of AMA, and it is much comfortable. But us, the lowly spectator, want to see a guy challenge himself at all levels, even the ones we perceive to be the highest ones.

I think with the wages and lifestyle, it's very easy to become accustomed to life in the AMA paddock, because I think you could say almost exactly the same thing about Ben Spies.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jan 18 2007, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think with the wages and lifestyle, it's very easy to become accustomed to life in the AMA paddock, because I think you could say almost exactly the same thing about Ben Spies.
In Ben's defense he has a fear of flying and, same goes for Mat, who doesn't love money?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Jan 17 2007, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fair enough. But if you notice, his riding ability is not really what's in question, it has been his reluctance to move to an international series that is at issue. One could argue that the international series of WSBK and MotoGP is not the pinnacle of racing, I would somewhat agree, but I think the world generally accepts the international series to be the top levels of racing. For his reluctance to move out of the AMA, there is something to say for it, and I think it’s in part that he has coward out (my opinion). He is the current king of AMA, and it is much comfortable. But us, the lowly spectator, want to see a guy challenge himself at all levels, even the ones we perceive to be the highest ones.

As far as his personality. Well he isn't gonna win any contests. But I can appreciate a straight shooter. However, Mat not only comes off as a straight shooter, but a bit of arrogance in the process. Look at Kevin Schwartz, a very straight and honest opinion/assessment he will give you, but not a shred of arrogance. And that is, I think, the difference for how people perceive Mat. Of course, nobody should bother any celebrity while at leisure. But when the sign is posted: autograph session. Well that seems its part of the job. And yes, sometimes he’s not that friendly when the sign is posted. But you may not care, ok, so what. It’s his racing that we come to see, right. Well yes, for most, but some of us like the whole package. After all, there are other racers just as fast (i.e. Ben Spies, Eric Bostrom, Miguel DuHamel, Jake Zemke, etc. and yes, we come to watch them race too, but oh, what a joy when you get to meet them up close while the autograph session sign is posted.


The tittle of the topic just said Mat Mladin, I only read a few posts and then posted a reply. Sorry if I was a bit off topic. And yes, who does not like money? Think about this also, he has a 3 year old baby girl and a comfortable life in the states and Australia. He is trying to settle down and be a father. I dont think he wants the added pressure of learning a new series and tracks, plus transport schedual. Not to mention all the attention, that he already does not want, on him all the time. In the U.S. no one knows him accept race fans, which is a very small portion of the population. There are some other reasons besides money I am sure. Any of you remember when the AMA series would run with the WSBK guys during the american WSBK round? Mladin was always up front then, and I dont think much would have changed now.
 
I guess we all agree, that the man can ride the .... out of a superbike.But his attitude "according" to "race-bike magazine publictions" is .....Me personally i could careless about his attitude.As long as he goes out and performs(whether he wins or loses) and provides exciting racing,who cares about his attitude? I think ppl. get too caught up on this good-guy/bad guy thing.
Two yrs. ago I thought he should have attempted to move on to Motogp.But i think he mite just be past his prime now to be successful in MOTOGP.It'll take him at least one full yr. on the bike to get comfortable and familiarize himself with the tracks(i know he smokem them in phillps isl. JAN.06)But even then, i dont see him becoming WORLD CHAMP.I could be wrong.But i think the GP riders are lot more relentless and skilled and the tracks are also more technical.I think its just so hard to say how he would contend since he really hasnt had anyone push him hard,til this yr.
 

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