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Looking at the video, it is clear that Rossi was hit by Marquez multiple times. Why is this not brought to attention?

Also looking at the video it is clear that Rossi's foot coming off the peg was only a reflex reaction, after Marquez first hit Rossi. Why is this nit brought to attention?

Is both Honda and Yamaha deliberately wanting to stop Rossi from winning another championship just because he is the oldest????
 
You just sign up to tell us that! Please go back to crash dot net. We already have enough rossi trolls here already.
 
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What Rossi did was wrong. Every single second of that altercation was intentional on VR's part, and it seems that he's forgotten who the real rival is this season.

If he does win it, he'll damn well deserve it with what he's left himself to do at Valencia. If he doesn't, you can't say anything other than he's brought it on himself.

From a VR fan.
 
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I wouldn't be at all surprised that if Rossi manages to get up to 4th in the race and Marquez is 2nd, Lorenzo 3rd,a mistake will happen which allows Lorenzo through.
 
MM was in the race today with the sole purpose of disturbing VR, and making sure he does not finish higher than JL.
Rossi run wide on purpose, in protest of MM un-sporty manners and intentions. There was no kick – MM run into VR which in turn fended him off. As said here before, MM made deliberate contact with VR on several occasions in this race before the incident.
I think that Jarvis summarizes it the best in his motogp.com comments.
As a Rossi fan, I don’t care about the championship. As a fantasy, I hope VR stays on in coming years with the sole purpose of disturbing each and every race of MM, making sure that he never wins a championship again.
 
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MM was in the race today with the sole purpose of disturbing VR, and making sure he does not finish higher than JL.
Rossi run wide on purpose, in protest of MM un-sporty manners and intentions. There was no kick – MM run into VR which in turn fended him off. As said here before, MM made deliberate contact with VR on several occasions in this race before the incident.
I think that Jarvis summarizes it the best in his motogp.com comments.
As a Rossi fan, I don’t care about the championship. As a fantasy, I hope VR stays on in coming years with the sole purpose of disturbing each and every race of MM, making sure that he never wins a championship again.

Lol without Marc's problems he has at the start of the year and with Marc improving still he doesn't have the pace to stop Marc winning a championship
 
Lol without Marc's problems he has at the start of the year and with Marc improving still he doesn't have the pace to stop Marc winning a championship

If that is the one thing he is on the grid for, I am sure he can cause just that.
 
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Yes, what Vale did was stupid. But yea, Marc was making a lot of contact with Vale. I was saying that long before the incident.
 
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Come on guys. I'm tired of this kicked him off the bike crap. How much force can you really generate in a 2 inch kick while riding a bike? Not enough to knock a man off a bike. It's not a good argument. Marc tried to torpedo vr multiple times and vr handled it.
Marc went out wide and slowed too. Just to screw with vr. Vr looked over at him like what the hell are you doing? Marc leaned in on him and ended up the ground.
I don't even agree Rossi did anything stupid.
Rossi has pulled lots of hard moves in the past. Ya. But while going for wins with the intention of passing and winning.
If Marc did have front end grip issues he had no business throwing it in multiple times on the championship leader especially if he's not in the hunt.
I hope ianonne finds some speed and puts some "legal moves" on Jlo all race long in Valencia.
 
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Also looked like Yamaha was sabotaging Rossi's bike all along - the only way he could be competitive was if his qualifying was poor - otherwise his bike would be sabotaged!
 
Come on guys. I'm tired of this kicked him off the bike crap. How much force can you really generate in a 2 inch kick while riding a bike? Not enough to knock a man off a bike. It's not a good argument. Marc tried to torpedo vr multiple times and vr handled it.
Marc went out wide and slowed too. Just to screw with vr. Vr looked over at him like what the hell are you doing? Marc leaned in on him and ended up the ground.
I don't even agree Rossi did anything stupid.
Rossi has pulled lots of hard moves in the past. Ya. But while going for wins with the intention of passing and winning.
If Marc did have front end grip issues he had no business throwing it in multiple times on the championship leader especially if he's not in the hunt.
I hope ianonne finds some speed and puts some "legal moves" on Jlo all race long in Valencia.

How much force? Lots if you hit the side of the fairing.
Surprisingly little if you hit a handlebar tip.
 
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How much force? Lots if you hit the side of the fairing.
Surprisingly little if you hit a handlebar tip.

Even less if your leaning your handle into his foot I suppose.
But no. Squatting on a sport bike. No force to speak of. Not buying it. Lean your handle into someone foot and they lift their foot. Maybe. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
 
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Ok, I'm declaring a new rule for myself here. Way too many new members. Anyone without at least 50 posts I must ignore. Since we know three things for sure;

1. 99% of the new members will be Boppers
2. 100% will never come back when Rossi loses at Valencia
3. Boppers can't take the heat on this forum

No reason to invest in them or wade through their Bopper propaganda. I've got to do this.
 
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Ok, I'm declaring a new rule for myself here. Way too many new members. Anyone without at least 50 posts I must ignore. Since we know three things for sure;

1. 99% of the new members will be Boppers
2. 100% will never come back when Rossi loses at Valencia
3. Boppers can't take the heat on this forum

No reason to invest in them or wade through their Bopper propaganda. I've got to do this.

Haha - welcome to the forum newcomers
 
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Even less if your leaning your handle into his foot I suppose.

But no. Squatting on a sport bike. No force to speak of. Not buying it. Lean your handle into someone foot and they lift their foot. Maybe. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


Watch the slow motion video. Rossi gives MM his wtf look, then his wtf are you doing look and MM answers: riding through you arsehole get out a my ....... way. Then MM's helmet hits Rossi's leg, then they move apart, and as MM starts to move backwards relative to Rossi, Rossi's leg moves backwards and, after that movement has started, MM's handlebars turn in suddenly and he goes down.
If Rossi's leg was snagged by MM's handlebars then, as it became un-snagged, like if he was pulling his leg back into position, then the handlebars would have rotated outwards, not inwards.

You're saying you can't kick a guy off a bike and that's your big sticking point. Then someone is pointing out that you can if you kick their handlebars and then your saying: what? Sounds like blah blah ....... blah...

Anyway... MOTOGP is a tv show. If it wasn't a tv show it would not exist. Coz there's just not enough people in the world, with disposable income... or purchasing decision-making power... who wake up every morning and think: "wow, I wonder who can ride a motorcycle faster than anybody else..." And there's a ....-load of tv shows competing for advertising money, so it has to be a ....... good tv show. Now, take a look at the scintillating after-race press conference that Rossi didn't show up for. DP and JG were like a ....... personality free zone. Imagine if that was the future of motogp. Who would ....... watch that every other week?? Who would give a flying .... which one of those guys was winning?

So, maybe the decision go easy on Rossi was a very pragmatic one. Maybe it was a production decision. Fine with me. Coz it's great tv and I want to keep watching it.

Now, if MM did this or did that and it's within the rules then... shut the .... up. If he did break some rules punish him. If the production team feel that his actions were not good for business, even though he didn't break any rules... change the ....... rules. Or at least clarify them so that they can be applied objectively.

Is it clear in the rules that a rider can't take a wide line or break-check somebody to block them and upset their rhythm? Or that they have to maintain momentum? I doubt it. If they want to pull over and have a piss or smoke a cigaret, why not? What's the ....... problem? It wasn't dangerous.

I don't think they penalised VR for his obstructive line. I suggest it was because it looked too much like he kicked MM's handlebars and self preservation kicked in, taking into consideration the wrath (and the famous volatility) of the local population in the up-coming finale. They have reasonable tradition for throwing bombs there.

Morality in sport is the same as morality anywhere, it's an adaptation in the social evolution process. It's a positive adaptation coz it allows people to live in large groups without the whole thing exploding, but it's not a real thing, like the law of gravity. It was probably made up by stone age girls playing tiggy (maybe you call it tag, but I like tiggy coz it sounds petty)...

But, anyway, if you chose to conform to morality, then you get a measure of protection in return, if you chose to step outside of it, then you have to accept the risk. And maybe guys like MM and VR can do that coz they have the talent to survive without that protection. Also fine with me.
 
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Even less if your leaning your handle into his foot I suppose.
But no. Squatting on a sport bike. No force to speak of. Not buying it. Lean your handle into someone foot and they lift their foot. Maybe. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Can you rephrase that. Particularly the bit about squatting and no force??
 

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