lorenzo scared of bike

wow - a rider speaks out about FEAR

i think this is kind of brave to talk about fears, because all riders always try to be cool and relaxed

seems like its just as we suspected..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo believes he started the campaign pushing extremely hard and has paid the price for that approach. He says he needs to take a more conservative approach to the rest of the season.

some rebuilding ahead methinks, i wonder how many laps it will take to get back to form..

I read it just now.Thanks for the link.
He speaks alot about how he is showing others how he rides,like the most important thing is to prove
to everyone else that he is fast.And not to him self first.
I thought all riders tried to prove to them selves first.He doesn't sound like he's got a lot of confidence now compared to the start of the season,and maybe even fears to be replaced.

Anyway,who wouldn't doubt his confidence with all those crashes!
I hope,and i think he will get some of the confidence back.

Interesting. It would be a shame if he didn't get back to form. It's totally understandable that he would enter the Moto GP fray feeling a bit overconfident. After all he pretty much decimated the field in '07 year in F2. It's kinda ironic given how much talk there was about the need to ride the 800s like a 250 and so many people bad-mouthing Hayden for only having superbike chops. Lorenzo isn't a particularly likeable guy but I still think he's a more talented rider than Hayden. Hopefully he just needs to re-think his approach to the 800s.

What an interesting candid insight into the mind of a high profile racer. It shows the thought processes required to maintain that all important confidence and just how the slightest doubt can lead to the dreaded fear which can end a career as quick as any other failing.

This really does indicate that Jorge is at a possible turning point in his career as if he allows the fear to grip and grow inside, he will only be a greater danger to himself and others on track. How he recovers from these setbacks will determine whether he has that little bit extra that is required to make someone a true great of the sport and a person who will win championships. I believe that he has this innate ability and feel that we will see him back next year as a far better racer that anything we have seen this year.

The curiosity of this for me is that it is evidence of the need for experience within a team. With Fiat Yamaha we have VR on the Bridgestones whereas Jorge is on Michelin so there cannot be any learnings between the riders. Could this have led to some of Jorge's issues/experiences, we can only surmise and this is not to blame VR but to ponder whether this highlights anything.

Mind you, doesn't it throw a bit of a 'curve ball' at the comments attributed to Jorge and others from earlier in the year which were picked up by many regarding how 'easy' these bikes are to ride with the electronics. Obviously (and this is not intended to sound detrimental to Jorge), he underestimated or 'spoke to soon' and possibly became a little 'cocky', but has surely learnt and hopefully this will not occur again.

But and in all honesty, the sport needs a fit and healthy Jorge back as he is one talented rider capabale of taking it to the more experienced riders (besides, I have enjoyed watching hime earlier in the year).





Garry

Shows he's only human doesn't it. He needs some hypnosis I reckon, erase all memory of crashes. I hope he gets his head together, look how Stoner did, though without the injuries, just goes to show all the diferent components that go into making an awsome rider, head .... has come to Melandri and Lorenzo both. I hope they both get out of the rut and show us all what we know they are capable of. Go Jorge, he is a WC in waiting if he sorts this out.

XX Liz

The head injury is what did it. The broken bones I think hardly worried him. Severe concussion/the near approach to permanent neurological damage stops most people no matter how brave in most sports, and only the very foolhardy would ignore it. I don't think vale or casey have ever really had this, whether through skill (obviously a contributor at least in vale's case), luck or whatever. Jorge may also have heard too many opinions before the season about how the bikes now ride themselves.

I was not a fan before this season, but I am now and really wish him well. As I and others have said previously, the argument that the 800cc formula was necessary to improve safety is looking threadbare. Maybe they should look at reducing profits for a few years and actually make the tracks safer, then they can cut back the electronics etc which may make things safer up to a point but then seem to bite as hard or harder when their limits are exceeded with less warning to the riders.

damn. can't say i liked him all that much in the 250 class. seemed a bit overcocky. came into the 800's and i was impressed to say the least. he definitely has a lot of talent. seems like he is more down to earth than i first thought, and hope he gets back to form asap. riders like him definitely belong in GP.

It is the lollipop!

He's probably tougher than everyone thinks. The human ability to come back from near disaster is pretty damned phenomenal. Look at the horrendous injuries that Kenny SR. experienced, including a broken back and very serious head injuries. Riders with his brand of determination - tend to be very good at shelving trauma and moving on.

I'm quite fond of Jorge.
He needs to switch to Bridgestones while he has Valentino as a mentor, and soften his rear a notch.

Riding scared is that last thing you wanna do when your racing. When I started I was told if your scared out there don't ride at all. You know see what affect that had on Lorenzo.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Noodlerizer @ Jul 30 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Riding scared is that last thing you wanna do when your racing. When I started I was told if your scared out there don't ride at all. You know see what affect that had on Lorenzo.

He either has a lot of guts to admit that he is afraid and has the self confidence to over come it, or he has already condemned himself to being a mid pack rider for the rest of his career.This is a perfect example of gaining to much to fast and getting a false sense of security.As Rossi picked up pace as he learned the new tires,Jorge tried to follow and has gotten in over his head.He was already on the edge but didnt quite realize it.As he took the next step to stick with Rossi,he crossed the edge and this is the result.

This was always realisticly gonna be jorge's learning year, but as mentioned earlier all the talk of how easy these bikes were to ride, coupled with a " can do no wrong" self attitude from 250's were bound to add up to disaster for the poor guy.
Since seeing him in 125's I bet with a mate he would be 2009 world champ. I think if he treats 08 as the learning year it should be and regains the confidence then I cant see why this cant happen for him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 30 2008, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He either has a lot of guts to admit that he is afraid and has the self confidence to over come it, or he has already condemned himself to being a mid pack rider for the rest of his career.This is a perfect example of gaining to much to fast and getting a false sense of security.As Rossi picked up pace as he learned the new tires,Jorge tried to follow and has gotten in over his head.He was already on the edge but didnt quite realize it.As he took the next step to stick with Rossi,he crossed the edge and this is the result.
As much as I hate to admit to it Jorge will most likely be champion someday. If he dropped the ego and the "I'm more popular than Valentino", crap I would like him and respect him. He is good and a tough kid. Hard not to like him but he drinks almost from the same kool aid pedrosa does.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 30 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well i met him briefly at laguna, he actually walked over to shake my hand and say hi, he also took the stage during toselands crash performance and i came to the conclusion that weekend that he wass a down to earth nice bloke. i saw no ego what so ever.


He must have read the forum Rog, and heard you were on the way!!

I think getting his confidence back will be harder than winning a world championship at this point. I've really learned to respect Jorge though, & I hope he can do it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Jul 30 2008, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This was always realisticly gonna be jorge's learning year, but as mentioned earlier all the talk of how easy these bikes were to ride, coupled with a " can do no wrong" self attitude from 250's were bound to add up to disaster for the poor guy.
Since seeing him in 125's I bet with a mate he would be 2009 world champ. I think if he treats 08 as the learning year it should be and regains the confidence then I cant see why this cant happen for him.

I believe that Dovi was the one cracking on about how the bikes were amazingly easy to ride and he seems to not have the same problem as Jorgay. Is it because his bike has that much less horsepower? Or does he not have the " can do no wrong" self attitude from 250's that you speak of? I think that Dovi will be WC before Jorgay if he can get teh support that he deserves.

Rest up Whorhay, you will be champ one day. I am a fan.