I haven't said and I have read no one else saying the tyre wear was normal. The track conditions were not normal nor were they acceptable. Some riders including Hayden did not ride to the conditions to manage the whole race distance. This is not new in MotoGP or in any motorsport. What is new is a very experienced track operator screwed up.
Jum you have not given a conclusive opinion as to why you think some riders tyres did not make the distance. At this stage it appears you are siding with the lunatics and suggesting a conspiracy. As someone who values your opinion I seriously hope you are not hitching your credibility to that wagon train.
Well brotha, I‘ve read your response to Talps, did you read my reply to him, it was extensive buddy, as I already addressed the “conspiracy” suggestion. So again, no, not conspiracy, but the difference in tire wear by the two extremes of the spectrum were astonishing enough to make one wonder about the spec tire choices and compounds brought out to this event by Bstones. Do you see the difference in what I’m saying?
An yes, you seem like you are saying it was normal tire management, despite you describing it as "track management".
Terrible track conditions? Friend, was there some weather condition that I didn’t detect on the tele? Or are you talking about the new pavement? The new pavement is something that did NOT suddenly spring on the series was it? It looks to me that Bstone didn’t do their homework and bring out an acceptable tire, and the wear was certainly abnormal. You are certainly chalking it up to normal mismanagement of tire wear, though you are casing it as mismanagement of “track conditions”. The wear was so bad that there is no other way to describe the dichotomy experienced by riders as nothing short as shocking. We had rider retirement’s dude!
I saw those that didn't ride to the conditions and pushed too hard on the front early in the race fell to the terrible track conditions. Those that didn't finished the race strong. There was no this bike is better than that (except obviously Ducati who are struggling not just this weekend) it came down to riders and set up's.
Using Hayden and Capirossi as holders of significant racecraft is just laughable. As much as I like Hayden he has not shown an ability to have a better back end of the race to the front end in 5 years. Capirossi is past it plain and simple and no amount of racecraft will overcome being slow.
Rider retirements and severe drop back by multiple riders is pause for thought. That already should be a sign that something wasn’t right. I certainly do not think it was a management issue (regardless of how you may pose it, blaming the track). And trying to support your idea that it was merely a “management issue” by describing Hayden and Capi’s racecraft as “laughable” doesn’t help your argument, as nothing could be further from the truth. And to solely blame Hayden’s fades on tires equating it to “racecraft” (as you say he’s had as bad back end for 5 years) may mean you haven’t fully explored the fuel issue that Kropo addressed on his site a while back. Sure, Nicky has been known to fade, I agree this has been observed, but that has been sometimes tires and sometimes fuel. The thing is magnitude here, certainly ‘race fade’ is NOT drop like a stone in such dramatic fashion as we saw at Indy. This was extraordinary! And I’ll add, “past it” old man Capi’s confidence has been destroyed, but he still ahead of his younger teammate in point (one that actually took Loris out and injured his hand in the process.) Put Capi on a Tech3 tomorrow, and he’s be mid-pack within three races me thinks.
This was a case of exceptional tire wear, even though he chose the “hard” tires. Bridgestone did not bring a soft of medium, to be clear they had a “hard” and “harder” compound. Hayden has been able to manage tires under worse conditions, when there was actual weather involved, its how he notched his only podium this year, while others were crashing instead of pitting.
I do get our kneejerk reaction to question Talps motives, I get that brother, and your responses were right on cue, however, I disagree with some assessments in your reply, as the dichotomy experienced by what appeared to be two dramatically opposing tire wear situations should be enough to make you and me pause. This was not normal or a matter of just rider tire management (or track condition management, as you say). It was a dry track all weekend. The pavement wasn’t something that suddenly appeared. The riders have visited repaved tracks and new tracks before. I mean, dude, there were tire retirement(s) man. When do we see this kind of stuff over a dry weekend? Rare to never. I don’t believe for one minute this was normal rider mismanagement of tires because the dichotomy of the two extremes was an excessive outlier. In many cases, outliers are suspect, and Talps has used this opportunity to suggest a bit of conspiracy perhaps, as he seemed to ‘suggest it’ though NOT outright committed to saying Bstone handed out two spec of tires? Notwithstanding, the outlier was real, and to say it was tire wear status quo is to ignore the dramatic bricklike spiral of Simo, Hayden, Capi, & Abraham, and to a lesser degree, Lorenzo and Rossi.
Ducati hasn’t been the only ones to suffer from abnormal tire wear, as Tech3 has also had severe problems, but it hasn’t been as bad as seen at Indy. This is not about Honda or Stoner, as it points to Bstone. Keep in mind, I have been skeptical myself. If you or anybody else thinks this was normal, point me to another occasions when we saw such a dichotomy of tires wear during a dry event. I know of one right off hand, Laguna Seca, Michelin vs Bstones. However, since the single tire supplier, I cannot think of a race where we saw multiple tire retirements forcing pits (3) and dramatic dropping (2) including substantial to moderate ‘fade’ (1). What Lorenzo experienced is more classical fade. That's how I saw it brotha.
