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Texas
Depends where you start viewing the incident mike. It all started on the blind uphill approach to the corkscrew. Stoner and rossi actually swapped paint there too. Rossi being the first into the first apex. Im not sure why were talking about this , i think we have both strayed away from the original point and defiantly the thread topic
Joined Jul 2006
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Texas
Depends where you start viewing the incident mike. It all started on the blind uphill approach to the corkscrew. Stoner and rossi actually swapped paint there too. Rossi being the first into the first apex. Im not sure why were talking about this , i think we have both strayed away from the original point and defiantly the thread topic
Definitely very far from the topic; lorenzo will likely win indy, not valentino or casey unfortunately in my view.
Valentino squeezed casey fairly severely to the inside initially a corner or two before when casey was definitely in front though. Valentino was also the one who of necessity was in duff-up mode for which I would not necessarily criticise him; my point is the differential reaction to (racing) incidents dependng on the protagonist rather than the incidents themselves.
Joined Jul 2006
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Texas
check the paint swap at 45 sec. that's the approach pushing rossi off his line. this is where the chain of events happened and why i think casey was a prick for moaning.
Now check at 48 secs and see who is at the first apex in front and the gap between them. casey had plenty of opportunity to sit back and watch rossi crash. He didn't, he went for it there and then and it cost him. I believe he was angry at himself but as we all know he will always pass the blame.
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As for Lorenzo at indy, i think your right about him winning although spies was 2 tenths faster. can he keep this speed through race distance ?? unlikely. i got a feeling engines may start to play a part now. an engine blow could upset a lot of things for a lot of people. Lorenzo must be on his last engine by know ??
Joined Jul 2006
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Texas
Rossi up for another disaster race. I hope he can save something out of this situation.
I dont have any doubt that Spies will join the aliens, and that's the biggest or one of the biggest positive points of this year. I hope he will score some more podiums, and find more conffidence for the next year.
3 hours to go, give us an exciting race.
I dont have any doubt that Spies will join the aliens, and that's the biggest or one of the biggest positive points of this year. I hope he will score some more podiums, and find more conffidence for the next year.
3 hours to go, give us an exciting race.
I see you have started a race thread, which would seem to be an excellent idea.
We appear to be talking at cross purposes. You have been following premier class racing for a similar length of time to me
( doubtless with greater knowledge), and I am surprised if you have any problem with paint swapping; I certainly don't. My point is that casey stoner believes valentino is allowed greater tolerance in this aspect than he is; this is not a supposition but something he has clearly expressed, not least post-laguna seca 2008. It is not necessarily constructive for him to have this view, and certainly not constructive for him to express it, but I can understand why he feels this way.
I read the first couple of sentences only because i could see where you were going with this, but suffice to say.......its not about one or another. I just find it amazing the sheer amount of people willing to defend a move like what we witnessed yesterday, and then try and jump down other peoples throats for "only seeing the good" in rossi.
Just hypocrasy at its finest.
People can support who they like, no matter what next mans opinions of that person may be, however when all you see is people blasting rossi fans for this very same kind behaviour(blind support of valentino through thick and thin) it just makes you laugh with the sheer irony.
Reasons for liking valentino...
simple....i have never seen another rider like him on the track, and he always makes time to smile and bring a positive vibe to the proceedings, nothing to do with all his bs antics and celebrations etc, i also never claimed him to be an angel off the track.
Reason i dislike stoner....
All i hear is excuses, moaning, petulant stunts like that yesterday, and general negativity towards everything when he doesnt do well. As a racer he can be awsome mind you.
If that makes me a bopper then get me the paperwork and i'll sign it and become an official member.
That dont take away the hypocrasy or irony mind.
And beside all this what does bringing stoner up on acting a .... yesterday, have anything to do with bopperism? or rossi? Sorry if my ltd knowledge doesnt fully get what bopperism is, but maybe because thats because the lines are so blurred.
Funny stuff
the press esp the Italian are after blood even before today...smells a rat !!Rossi getting a Alien Autopsy
tell that to the corner workers with dirt rake duty!!!
I did say crash into anyone; to my knowledge rather than him crashing into pre-existing rakers of dirt any such dirt-rakers have have been called into action subsequent to him crashing. In fact at laguna seca 2008 when he did eventually put the bike into the sand/ dirt he elected to do so rather than crash into your boy.
I do agree that he appears, metaphorically at least, to have prompted a rather considerable amount of dirt-raking.
It might help your argument if you had sufficient familiarity with the concept to actually spell hypocrisy correctly, in which case you might not have pretended to be a wide -eyed neophyte unfamiliar with previous discourse on the forum and hence bewlldered by the attitude towards a certain element among rossi fandom.
Rossi just went down.. he's ok, another slow front end off.
Another Rossi crash!!!!WTF is going on, he normally have 2 or 3 crashes all season.
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