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Honda or Yamaha?

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I can't vote because it doesn't seem clear cut. It maybe obvious to some with Lorenzo's yam looking to planted, yet Spies bike chatters like .....

Stoners honda has issues yet looks good on some tracks. Danis looks ok. It's swings and rounder bouts i reckon.



Bang on Rog,six of one,half doz of other,...so they say.
 
Well - one answer is, (after what we've seen this season) NOT The Pieman's Yamaha.
 
4 years is a long time in GP racing.
Opinions are varied. I think 4 yrs is not long at all especially when u consider the amount of experience the comp has invested in the sport. Not saying the Ducati was a great bike but they had a few results in those years. I know there are lots of factors that might have played into their benefit. That was only the 2nd year of the MotoGP class (4strokes) and the 1st yr there were no 500's.
 
5 years is the entire time that the 990s went from being a concept to the end of their racing lifetime.



I don't know if you just want to argue for the sake of it, but believe me, in technology terms, 4 years is a looooong time.



These teams don't come fresh-faced in 2002/2003 and have to learn from scratch. They have decades of bike-building and tuning and racing expertise to call on.



Look at the ART, as an example. Barely more than a basic Superbike 9 races ago, lapping inside 2 seconds of the lap-record-breaking Honda last weekend.



Look at the Ducati - in less than a year they completely redesigned the bike from an 990 to an 800 and won a championship.



Sorry mate, but arguing that 4 years isn't a long time in racing terms is just plain wrong.
 
5 years is the entire time that the 990s went from being a concept to the end of their racing lifetime.



I don't know if you just want to argue for the sake of it, but believe me, in technology terms, 4 years is a looooong time.



These teams don't come fresh-faced in 2002/2003 and have to learn from scratch. They have decades of bike-building and tuning and racing expertise to call on.



Look at the ART, as an example. Barely more than a basic Superbike 9 races ago, lapping inside 2 seconds of the lap-record-breaking Honda last weekend.



Look at the Ducati - in less than a year they completely redesigned the bike from an 990 to an 800 and won a championship.



Sorry mate, but arguing that 4 years isn't a long time in racing terms is just plain wrong.
decades of racing in a prototype series? I think 4 yrs is not long "when compared to the other manufactures who have been in the series for decades" . Me disagreeing with you is arguing?? Why is it not arguing that you disagreed? What we are talking about is an opinion. 100% objectable is it not? I'm entitled to state my opinion without arguing. Isnt that what this is about?
 
You say the art is lapping within 2 seconds of the Honda? Yeah, on a single lap it does. It's impressive no doubt but How many seconds behind was it in the race? 67 seconds or so? Close to 3 sec a lap. Right?
 
You're right - 4 years in GP is no time at all. I mean, they are still pretty much exactly the same bikes as they were riding in 1998 with the same technology and performance.



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And yeah, not an argument - an opinion. Yours is incorrect.
 
Well - one answer is, (after what we've seen this season) NOT The Pieman's Yamaha.



Indeed.

- broken saddle sub-frame in Qatar.

[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]- broken swingarm at laguna Seca[/font]

[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]- engine explosion at Indianapolis[/font]



on top of:

[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]- self-destroyed rear tire at Assen[/font]

[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]- defective helmet visor once[/font]

[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]- 2 episodes of food poisoning[/font]



[font=Arial, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif]I never believe in conspiracies, but this is certainly a lot of bad luck on supposedly the best factory bike. [/font]
 
I've got to wonder if that food poisoning was a bad .... sandwich prepared at the Yamaha hospitality tent. 'Hey Ben, u look hungry, have this, its good for ya.'
 

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