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Me too. Like Nick Nac said 'No sensible stuff said here"...meaning 'Lalalala, you're not saying what I want to hear"
How will Marc Marquez do in 2024?
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Just when we thought race misdirection couldn't get any worse. You couldn't direct the sun to rise in the morning.
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This is directing MotoGP races mate, not sucking Rossi's ..... He has someone for that job already, his name is Ucchio Salucci.
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It's only round 1, but I had to revisit this thread in light of my signature.
Top GP23, and beat 2 GP24's.
I couldnt find crash statistics for 2024 so far, but he has only had 1 lowside.
Here's a truth:
| 3 | Jorge Martin | Prima Pramac | Ducati | 1.933 |
| 4 | Marc Marquez | Gresini | Ducati | 3.429 |
| 5 | Enea Bastianini | Ducati Lenovo | Ducati | 5.153 |
| 6 | Alex Marquez | Gresini | Ducati | 6.791 |
| 7 | Fabio Di Giannantonio | Pertamina Enduro VR46 | Ducati | 9.161 |
| 8 | Aleix Espargaro | Aprilia Racing | Aprilia | 11.242 |
| 9 | Pedro Acosta | Red Bull GASGAS Tech3 | KTM | 11.595 |
| 10 | Maverick Vinales | Aprilia Racing | Aprilia | 13.197 |
| 11 | Fabio Quartararo | Monster Energy Yamaha | Yamaha | 17.701 |
| 12 | Johann Zarco | LCR Honda CASTROL | Honda | 18.075 |
| 13 | Joan Mir | Repsol Honda | Honda | 18.437 |
| 14 | Marco Bezzecchi | Pertamina Enduro VR46 | Ducati | 19.194 |
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Where I am.
Marc's about where I would have expected him to be. He will no doubt improve and make things really interesting.
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Exactly. But when you point this out to valeban clowns online they say "You are stupid if you cannot see the difference!"
I always reply "I AM stupid, so educate me on how the two incidents were different?
Crickets.....every, single, time.
So Marc has said after he passed Acosta, it was go time but he ran out of front tire. Can't help but think good things are coming his way.
I’m still waiting before I get too excited. Front tyre issues are something that could plague him given that his advantage over everyone was his ability with the front of the bike.
Me thinks if Marc doesn't win the championship this year or next year he won't win another one.
MotoGP careers aren't that long. The last time a rider over 30 won the world championship was Doohan in 1998.
MotoGP careers aren't that long. The last time a rider over 30 won the world championship was Doohan in 1998.
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I was hoping that someone would knock Ago off the all time record and when Doohan retired with injury it was up to Rossi who didn't get there which left Marc as the next candidate and now it looks like the run is too late
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Well this is the real storyline to GP that is bigger than anything else.
I don't know if we will ever see him ride on the limit the way he did at Jerez 2020 before that crash.
I would say if there's any one rider equipped to win at this age or older, it's Marc. I think Valentino might have if he didn't go to Ducati and stayed at Yamaha.
I tend to agree. If he shows he still has it this year but is beaten because the GP24s are better bikes then he should be able to get on a bike capable of winning the title next year. If he doesn’t do it that season then he probably won’t as you say. Doohan was somewhat similar in that he lost 2 seasons of his prime to injury, but managed a 5th title at the age of 33 iirc before another injury finished his career so 4 titles af the age of 30 or more. Agostini’s last title on a Yamaha was I believe when he was 33 as well.
I don’t mind Ago having the record but it doesn’t mean he was better than Rossi or MM imo.
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"I don’t mind Ago having the record but it doesn’t mean he was better than Rossi or MM imo."
Only way, would be to put them all the MV, and see who is who.
Only way, would be to put them all the MV, and see who is who.
I don't see this ever happening. Even without the injuries, Marc winning every championship from 2020-27 (that'd be 12 in a row) is quite a stretch.
In Giacomo's days riders competed in several classes in the same year.
Injury or not, I also don't think Marc is the Alonso/Rossi/Harvick/Kasai kind of guy who just keep going forever.
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I'd only count the 500cc/MotoGP world championships however I do agree that the 12 is also a valid measurement.
Much more high risk riding style apart from anything else, hence the last 4 seasons. The actual crash which caused all the problems resulted from him trying to prove something to FQ when the result of the race was already settled, something I couldn’t see Rossi in his pomp doing. I don’t think the latter years of Rossi’s career elevated his stature in the sport overly though, had he retired after the 7th premier class title his status would have been unchallenged,, even by people like me who don’t overly admire him as things now stand.
I doubt the overall title wins in all classes was ever in prospect for Rossi or an aim of his, but he desperately wanted at least the 8th title to match Agostini whose 8th title on a Yamaha at age 33 with the Japanese back in the sport pretty much crowned his career and was his greatest title win
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I love seeing the unexpected or records being broken. Marquez has loads of talent and could well pull off another championship, even though it's a big ask considering his age and the current competition. Even though, IMO, his days of going all hell for leather are done, he could still pull off another championship.
Even while recovering from his injuries Marc was still pushing the Honda beyond it capabilities in a vain effort to mould it into a winning bike. Time and time again he risked life and limb in his determination to force success and I believe he only threw his cards in with the bike and just rode within its limits around the time he thought of moving on. He’s on a title winning bike now and although I was slightly disappointed with his fourth place in Qatar ( had him down for passing Martin for 3rd) I am convinced there is a lot more to come from him yet. He is no age at 31 so that won’t hold him back. The only thing that can affect his comeback is his mental state regarding the injuries but as I’ve said he was still pushing the Honda whilst recuperating so you’ve got to give him the benefit of the doubt. When alls said and done he’s still the only alien on that grid!
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