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Agree, a third year on the trot would suggest that Bagnaia can potentially join the short list
How will Marc Marquez do in 2024?
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I respect Bagnaia and his achievements, and unlike other VR46 academy products, he doesn't seem to have a constant hateboner for Marc. Obviously he's been the dominating Ducati in a field plagued with competitive Ducatis so that counts for something, but also I can't shake the feeling of wondering if he could be that good without a Ducati between his legs, he gives this Vettel vibe of being in the right machinery in the right time, with the machine tailored towards him. That's not a blemish, you gotta be good enough in the first place to repeat championships regardless of circumstances. The only aspect of his qualities as a rider that lets me down is his tendency to accumulate unprovoked crashes, but it could very well be tied to machinery since the Ducatis crash a lot, overall.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he three-peats given how scary the newer Duc looks. But also he'll have a fiercer competition this year compared to the previous seasons. 2024 is the year to prove he belongs in the elite.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he three-peats given how scary the newer Duc looks. But also he'll have a fiercer competition this year compared to the previous seasons. 2024 is the year to prove he belongs in the elite.
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There is form for ruthlessness among the greats of the sport, Doohan and Rossi himself to name two. Both were perhaps less careless of the safety of other riders than MM at least in his early career, although Rossi on the odd occasion relied on the skill and character of others.Definitely not a Valeban - more neutral and have actually read a biography on him out of interest. Same for Stoner. I'm a big Stoner fan both as a rider and as an individual. But these riders are multifaceted, especially the more successful, and invariably ruthless ones. The Stoner/Rossi rivalry was hence, darned exciting to witness.
Marc is himself, quite ruthless in his own way. But his sheer talent mixed with an element (the enemy of my enemy is my friend influence) makes it unsurprising that he gets so much slack for his questionable antics. With him, I'm just as neutral as I was with Rossi. I see Biaggi as I saw Lorenzo. Mercurial characters, though quite clean on track.
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The greats of the sport all have supreme self belief and confidence and yes are ruthless in their pursuit of a result.
Rossi took it a level further orchestrating the hatred through the Valeban.
Nobody else has done that to that degree.
Doohan was forthright and firm but would not have indulged in that sort of behaviour.
I believe if faced with it he would have done his talking on the track much like Marquez. He would have fueled the fire with it imo.
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Didn't I read somewhere that Doohan hated not topping even the practice sessions? Such was his ruthless desire to assert his dominance.
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If being faster at all times or wherever possible is a mind game I don't mind it as it is called racing. It is a high risk strategy when the bike is not there.
I reckon 22 termed it better as him simply trying to "assert his dominance."
Far prefer that to orchestrating negative sentiment by your fans toward opponents that are faster on the track in an attempt to negate some of that speed.
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Remember that, Doohan wanted to sign a contract where his setting weren't given to the other Honda riders
Is it to simplistic at this level to think that some riders don’t really know how to set the bike up for themselves or do they just need to know that they have the same settings as Doohan,Rossi,MM etc before they have the confidence to push?
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Mick's run of titles was from 1994 - 1998, so started 30 years ago, rather a long time ago in GP bike racing which was somewhat different in those days, they were riding 500 2 strokes without much in the way of electrickery for a start and there was a much higher risk of injury for the riders as Mick Doohan himself and Wayne Rainey can attest, although things were starting to calm down a little by that stage in the 500 GP era.
I am just saying that Mick didn't like the settings he had worked on in practice being given to the other Honda riders for qualifying, which is true. I made no comment as to whether his attitude was reasonable. As I recall the other riders were usually closer to him in qualifying than they had been before obtaining his settings. It didn't help them much in the races though. It was during this time the term alien was first applied to a rider in my time following the sport in earnest, which began in the mid 80s when Kerry Packer started broadcasting the sport live in Australia, by Carlos Checa to Mick Doohan after finishing second to him in a race, opining that this was equivalent to winning as he had beaten all the human riders.
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Davide Tardozzi thinks Marc was holding back in Sepang. I really don't know what to think about where he is in relation to how the bike needs to be ridden. We're going to find out for certain when the lights go out in Qatar in less than 3 weeks now. I do think sandbagging would be something Marc would do as he's one of the most astute riders in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. He's going to be a menace in the braking zones.
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Ducati chief teases that Marc Marquez was holding back in Sepang
Davide Tardozzi believes Marc Marquez's true potential on a Ducati was hidden in Sepang
We shall see, cannot wait !Davide Tardozzi thinks Marc was holding back in Sepang. I really don't know what to think about where he is in relation to how the bike needs to be ridden. We're going to find out for certain when the lights go out in Qatar in less than 3 weeks now. I do think sandbagging would be something Marc would do as he's one of the most astute riders in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. He's going to be a menace in the braking zones.
Ducati chief teases that Marc Marquez was holding back in Sepang
Davide Tardozzi believes Marc Marquez's true potential on a Ducati was hidden in Sepang
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From what I've read the GP23's weakness was braking. With Marquez's braking ability he will have that GP23 looking pretty dam competitive against the 24 machinesDavide Tardozzi thinks Marc was holding back in Sepang. I really don't know what to think about where he is in relation to how the bike needs to be ridden. We're going to find out for certain when the lights go out in Qatar in less than 3 weeks now. I do think sandbagging would be something Marc would do as he's one of the most astute riders in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. He's going to be a menace in the braking zones.
Ducati chief teases that Marc Marquez was holding back in Sepang
Davide Tardozzi believes Marc Marquez's true potential on a Ducati was hidden in Sepang
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As has been said we will find out soon. I could see a case that he has been working out how he needs to ride the bike differently to a Honda, with Jorge Martin saying he had been riding it like it was a Honda. If he can work out the general change in style required he can then work on exploiting its strengths. He certainly wasn’t going to the edge of crashing the thing or actually crashing it, which has been his modus operandi in practice and qualifying most of his career. Hopefully he has been chastened by his injury saga, and realises there is no point in that approach in testing at least.Davide Tardozzi thinks Marc was holding back in Sepang. I really don't know what to think about where he is in relation to how the bike needs to be ridden. We're going to find out for certain when the lights go out in Qatar in less than 3 weeks now. I do think sandbagging would be something Marc would do as he's one of the most astute riders in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. He's going to be a menace in the braking zones.
Ducati chief teases that Marc Marquez was holding back in Sepang
Davide Tardozzi believes Marc Marquez's true potential on a Ducati was hidden in Sepang
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Nothing in the article indicates Tardozzi thinks Marc was holding back, it's just classic Crash clickbait headline where they mix different statements from two persons and attribute it to the wrong one.
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In a video with Marc talking to Pecco Marc stated that he hasn't figure out how to do one off fast laps yet. He did say he has race pace sorted. Pecco said you are riding it like the honda. To which Marc replied something like, with the honda you get on the gas quickly which causes wheel spin on the Ducati. But riding at race pace that isn't an issue only when doing fast laps. Marc has shown in the past that he is adaptable. He will be fast by the first race but by the end of the season he will be hard to beat, I think. I have no doubt that he will have this bike figured out. Hell every rider who rides it does, so why would anyone doubt Marc?
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