How will Marc Marquez do in 2024?
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There was four GP23 bikes. One of these, Zarco bike, did not receive any advancements after he signed with LCR. This bike goes to MM, Ducati commenting the latest upgrades are not suitable for a satellite team. Now I wonder what bike Alex is getting. Will Ducati strip these "unsuitable advancements" from one of their GP23 bikes or what? And what about VR46 bikes?
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I was going to post the same question. It cannot be as simple as 'Zarco's Bike, Martins bike, etc etc.
As you noted. 3 of the 4 GP23's were full on Factory (Bagnaia, Bastianinni, Martin). There will be 4 customer GP23's next season (2 x Gresini, 2 x VR46). So are they all in effect getting Zarco spec bikes? I'm also curious as to what the contracts say. I assume they have wording of 'latest bike version from previous season' because if they don't, what stops them getting given an early GP23?
As you noted. 3 of the 4 GP23's were full on Factory (Bagnaia, Bastianinni, Martin). There will be 4 customer GP23's next season (2 x Gresini, 2 x VR46). So are they all in effect getting Zarco spec bikes? I'm also curious as to what the contracts say. I assume they have wording of 'latest bike version from previous season' because if they don't, what stops them getting given an early GP23?
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I'd be surprised if there was any difference between the 4 GP23's on the grid and I'd also be surprised if they are given anything but the last iteration of the GP23. I haven't observed Ducati handicapping any of their bikes.
What I have read was that the GP24 is a major step up over the GP23 but this could just be Ducati mouthing off
What I have read was that the GP24 is a major step up over the GP23 but this could just be Ducati mouthing off
So if this is true, what would your guess be as to where the major step up lies? Engine or aero? Something else perhaps?
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The riders said it was a lot more stable breaking and turning into corners. Pecco and Enea were happy with it Martin was not.
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If I recall correctly at the Valencia test coverage, it was only the engine that was changed on the '2024 test' bike. So it sounds like they have developed the engine braking.
Well, Martin did crash it twice, which I blame on him more than the bike.
Well, Martin did crash it twice, which I blame on him more than the bike.
Thought I’d get the odds on MM for the title next year and have a sneaky wager. But at 11/8 it’s not worth it but 50/1 on Quartararo doesn’t look bad for an each way punt? What do you reckon? For the non punters if you had 50 at each way it’s 25 to win at 50/1 = 1250+25 stake back and 25 to place 2nd or 3rd at 5/1= 125.
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Does this stat give us a prediction for MM?
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I think the law of diminishing returns will apply. No doubt, MM, will be doing a lot better in 2024 than he was last year. It will be interesting to see how he does at the front where small gains make or break the difference. Additionally, all the front runners seem to have had to deal with crashes with the Ducati that they didn't clearly understand. Should be interesting to see how MM deals with this.
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Marquez has stated categorically, that these unfathomable crashes are a direct result of aero.
Call me too idealistic or unrealistic, but I think the riders as a group should threaten a strike to get rid of that crap.
I would say given the results he's garnered on the ...... HRC bike, he potentially has developed an even finer sense of when he's on the cusp of crashing and may be more able to stay right at that edge.
Call me too idealistic or unrealistic, but I think the riders as a group should threaten a strike to get rid of that crap.
I would say given the results he's garnered on the ...... HRC bike, he potentially has developed an even finer sense of when he's on the cusp of crashing and may be more able to stay right at that edge.
Marco Bezzecchi 3 wins, 7 podiums, 4 poles, 4 fastest laps, 3rd in the championship is who I am taking a line through.
Bezzecchi had 3 race wins and finished 3rd in the championship on a 1 year old Ducati cf my previous post. I suspect MM is still better than him.
The questions for me are whether MM can ride Ducati “aero” style, the limit will be different and less predictable then his previous bikes as you and Keshav both say, and the relativity of the 2023 and 2024 Ducatis. There has been some suggestion some characteristics of the 2022 Ducati were preferable to those of the 2023 bike.
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What we will learn in 2024 is the mathematical limitations of grip on the 2023 Ducati
As to how well MM will do in 2024 none of us know. I'd be interested to measure his Brothers performance, how many seconds behind the winner in 2022 on the Satellite Honda vs how many seconds behind the winner in 2023 on the Satellite 2022 Ducati though I doubt that this metric would apply to MM
As to how well MM will do in 2024 none of us know. I'd be interested to measure his Brothers performance, how many seconds behind the winner in 2022 on the Satellite Honda vs how many seconds behind the winner in 2023 on the Satellite 2022 Ducati though I doubt that this metric would apply to MM
Honda hasn't had a dominant bike since 2014.
Yamaha was clearly better in 2015 and 2016, it was better or at worst on par with the Honda in 2017 and 2018.
Ducati has been the best bike since 2017.
Marquez still won in 16, 17, 18 & 19. I also strongly suspect, if not for the outbreak of Covid which was a major contributing factor to the events that caused his injuries. IE no covid, he doesn't try to come back 4 days after the operation. Not only is there not a GP the next week but all the riders know how many rounds there will be, longer breaks between and longer breaks between the GPs both Honda and Marc make more sensible decisions.
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What we all knew already, but Marc was able to speak publicly for the first time today.
Marquez adapted "much faster than expected" to Ducati MotoGP bike
Marquez adapted "much faster than expected" to Ducati MotoGP bike
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