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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 7 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even my wife knows that satelite riders don't have a shot in hell. Top 10's would be good first season. I'm hoping for more, but if not, its totally justifiable.
Well Toes had few of those, and look where it landed him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OahuGrown @ Oct 7 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but the question still remains at how fast Ben will be able to adapt and adjust the bike to his riding style.

I think he'll do fine. The Yamaha/Hondas are conventional, where as the Ducati is like learning how to ride a firecracker. Look a Melandri, even though he's on a dog of a bike, he did alot better than Ducati. Why? Because Ducati is a freak. Ben did good enough on the Suzuki, the world knew it, everybody except that moron Paul Denning (why he still has his job is a reflection of Suzuki's willingness to win). Now consider he will be on a much better bike than a full factory Suzuki. I'm not worried about Spies. I just hope the expectations are realistic. He will be well inside the top ten no problem.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Oct 7 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On the bike for a second year.
He had a two year contract. Not much of a option genius.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 7 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He had a two year contract. Not much of a option genius.
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I'm sure Takahashi had a contract for at least a year. Melandri had a 2-year contract with Ducati too. Hopper and Gibbers had contracts too (but their rides disappeared so we'll leave them out of this).

GP contracts are not ironclad. Also, Toseland's 1st year performance was relatively positive (other than not improving much throughout the year) and I don't think many/any felt him undeserving of a second season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 7 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think he'll do fine. The Yamaha/Hondas are conventional, where as the Ducati is like learning how to ride a firecracker. Look a Melandri, even though he's on a dog of a bike, he did alot better than Ducati. Why? Because Ducati is a freak. Ben did good enough on the Suzuki, the world knew it, everybody except that moron Paul Denning (why he still has his job is a reflection of Suzuki's willingness to win). Now consider he will be on a much better bike than a full factory Suzuki. I'm not worried about Spies. I just hope the expectations are realistic. He will be well inside the top ten no problem.

Dude stop making excuses for your mancrush Nicky Hayden. Fact is his days are numbered, Honda's not there to save his ... anymore. Can you say........ Adios Amigo !!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude stop making excuses for your mancrush Nicky Hayden. Fact is his days are numbered, Honda's not there to save his ... anymore. Can you say........ Adios Amigo !!
Honda never saved his .... Remember, Honda came calling for him after he signed a letter of intent with Yamaha to ride in the factory team in 2003. He was Rookie of the Year in that year, missed a race or two through injury and had two mechanical failures in 2004 and showed enough promise to earn another contract. Who was Honda going to replace him with after 2004? There were no better options than Hayden after 2004. And if you truly believe that he didn't earn his contract in 2006 (when, less you forget, Ducati and Yamaha were both trying to get him to leave Honda) then I've been right all along and you really don't follow motorcycle racing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 7 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Honda never saved his .... Remember, Honda came calling for him after he signed a letter of intent with Yamaha to ride in the factory team in 2003. He was Rookie of the Year in that year, missed a race or two through injury and had two mechanical failures in 2004 and showed enough promise to earn another contract. Who was Honda going to replace him with after 2004? There were no better options than Hayden after 2004. And if you truly believe that he didn't earn his contract in 2006 (when, less you forget, Ducati and Yamaha were both trying to get him to leave Honda) then I've been right all along and you really don't follow motorcycle racing.

Oh come on Austin. You could put a monkey or Uccio on those Honda's and it'll still win you championships... YOU should know that.
 
This guy keeps throwing you big gobs of worms you keep biting. When are you going to learn.

Try a yoga pose and chant Ignoooore,Ignooooore.....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 7 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are a worthless ...... Go .... yourself.

Guess you didn't read my PM? or at least didn't take any of it to heart
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Remember; "not debate meaningless trivialities with anonymous fools......."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 8 2009, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh come on Austin. You could put a monkey or Uccio on those Honda's and it'll still win you championships... YOU should know that.

Wasn't your fanboy Nakano on a Honda for 2 seasons?!
 
Spize I d honing to be the magnet the toRpedos and niky will get away make you all cry a fortune of as if you a team mers uyo cansee. And gasoline smels good so n dose the tires. I miss this stuf

edit: I need to make a note not to post from my iphone while drinking. I also can't find the phone.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Oct 8 2009, 03:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Spize I d honing to be the magnet the toRpedos and niky will get away make you all cry a fortune of as if you a team mers uyo cansee. And gasoline smels good so n dose the tires. I miss this stuf

??? Lighten up on the meds bro.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 7 2009, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even my wife knows that satelite riders don't have a shot in hell. Top 10's would be good first season. I'm hoping for more, but if not, its totally justifiable.
True although even my misses knows the tech3 yam is the best sat bike on the grid and better than the zook ben wild carded on. personally i will be comparing him more to simonchelli than the top factory boys to judge his motogp performance in his rookie year.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ Oct 7 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Guess you didn't read my PM? or at least didn't take any of it to heart
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Remember; "not debate meaningless trivialities with anonymous fools......."
Yeah brotha, I read and i agree. Thing is i use a good ".... off" every now and then for amusment. Its theraputic too.
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All part of the entertainment value buddy. All part of the fun, I NEVER take anything seriously on here, if I did then it wouldn't be fun. That's the secret to lasting here so long, never ever take things serious, its all make believe bro.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 7 2009, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh come on Austin. You could put a monkey or Uccio on those Honda's and it'll still win you championships... YOU should know that.

I re-read what I wrote and I may have gone too far about Uccio being able to win championships on the Hondas. But monkeys for sure.

Back on topic. I don't think Spies will struggle much at all, set-up with the MotoGP bikes will be the key as is for everyone who's new to the game, so having Colin Edwards as a teammate will be a big plus.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Spies will take his crew chief Tom Houseworth and mechanic Gregory Wood, who have both been with him since his AMA days, to Tech 3 next season.

Shades of Rossi and Burgess...... If Nicky only had this option.





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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#22 @ Oct 8 2009, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wasn't your fanboy Nakano on a Honda for 2 seasons?!
Thats what SS meant by even a monkey can ride it.
 

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