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But not a title contender - so why was he racing Jorge?
As stated before, no-one said you can't race a person who is battling for the title. What Rossi said was that you should not intentionally try to slow a rider who is battling for the title. Otherwise, Rossi would've complained about Iannone.
 
As stated before, no-one said you can't race a person who is battling for the title. What Rossi said was that you should not intentionally try to slow a rider who is battling for the title. Otherwise, Rossi would've complained about Iannone.

Rossi never had the pace at Sepang 2015 and was not being slowed. If he had the pace he would have broken free and been gone. That he couldn't do that tells you he was not being slowed.
 
As stated before, no-one said you can't race a person who is battling for the title. What Rossi said was that you should not intentionally try to slow a rider who is battling for the title. Otherwise, Rossi would've complained about Iannone.

As stated before there is more proof that Rossi was the slower of the two and trying desperately to slow Marquez down than the other way around.
 
What Rossi said was that you should not intentionally try to slow a rider who is battling for the title. Otherwise, Rossi would've complained about Iannone.

Except it is well documented that after the epic battle at Aragon 2015, Rossi hunted Pedrosa down to ask him why he was racing Rossi 'So aggressively' given he was a championship challenger.

Pedrosa was, by your own words, racing hard for position.
 
Also, someone said exactly this. Michael Laverty...

Wait until he's running in second place behind title challenging Shakey Byrne and has a chance to win a race, then we'll see if he sticks to that rule.
 
As stated before, no-one said you can't race a person who is battling for the title. What Rossi said was that you should not intentionally try to slow a rider who is battling for the title. Otherwise, Rossi would've complained about Iannone.

He didn't intentionally try to slow him - as has been stated he was clearly faster. The situation was precipitated by the events at Philip Island which culminated in Uccio's ludicrous conspiracy theory. And as I recall, he did have a word with both Iannone and Pedrosa at Aragon.

In racing Kent at Velencia, Ono intentionally "slowed a rider who was battling for the title" - only he wasn't quicker.
 
So everyone is a ..... unless they come to Misano
I've been to Misano and I am still a ...... I even went to Rossi's club. That didn't help with my pussiness at all. :queen: :love:
.......
Zarco v Pedrosa is a little harder. I personally think that the pass was near the limit, but it seemed that Pedrosa could've avoided the crash if he didn't apply the throttle on the wet patch after Zarco ran him wide. For that reason, I wouldn't have penalized Zarco but I can see how others might disagree. Also, Zarco has form for some bad passes from last year.
This just shows your bias, I think. I felt the same about the Rossi incident. I thought he could have stood-up the bike and avoided a crash. Whether he crashed himself on purpose or not, I don't know. But, he certainly has the skill to do that, or avoid crashing from that incident. And Dani got hurt in his crash, where as Rossi finished the race. I really don't like that Zarco received no penalty and Marquez got 30 seconds. It just shows a bias in administration of the rules. Which is what angers people around this site, A LOT. (Me =captain obvious).
 
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Oh please, you compare Rossi to an American fraud like Lance Armstrong? Voyons donc. All of VR title were won fairly and that is the only thing that will matter in the history, not what some washed up old men on internet forum believe.

Another .... sucking Rossi apologist are you. 10 years after Rossi has gone he won't be even remembered like Agostini. Rossi is one of the biggest reasons we have the track problems we have now, its a you can do whatever you like against anyone but me attitude.
 
Also, someone said exactly this. Michael Laverty...

"Marc broke the unwritten rule, always RESPECT those fighting for a Championship when you're not."

Actually, he didn't say that you can't race them. He said that you should show respect.
 
Anyone who doesn't concede that MM was intentionally ....... with VR at Sepang 15 is irretrievably biased. It's beyond debate. Rossi incited it, but there's no question that MM did that.
 
Anyone who doesn't concede that MM was intentionally ....... with VR at Sepang 15 is irretrievably biased. It's beyond debate. Rossi incited it, but there's no question that MM did that.

Don’t bother, if rossi said the sky is blue, they will post 12 pages insisting it’s not.
 
Except it is well documented that after the epic battle at Aragon 2015, Rossi hunted Pedrosa down to ask him why he was racing Rossi 'So aggressively' given he was a championship challenger.

Pedrosa was, by your own words, racing hard for position.

El Pais said this. They were the same ones who said Rossi did the same to Espargaro at Valencia (which Espargaro called "pure ........").


His actual public words after the race:


"Creo que no era lo suficientemente fuerte como para estar delante de Dani y, además, él tenía un gran ritmo"

I believe that I wasn't strong enough to be stay in front of Dani, who, after all, had a great rhythm

"Sencillamente, Dani ha sido más fuerte que yo hoy...necesitaba esos cinco puntos y sabía que podía confiar en Dani, que podríamos estar cerca del límite, pero que sería una lucha limpia".

Simply, Dani was stronger than me today. I needed these five points and I knew that I could trust in Dani, that we could be very close to the limit but that it would be a clean battle
 
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Even MM conceded that it was his mistake, so your argument doesn't make much sense.

And Miller conceded that he made a mistake in Austin that would have wiped out him and Lorenzo had Lorenzo not stood his bike up. So again we come back to the crux of the argument, consistency of punishments. Miller wasn't punished.

"Marc broke the unwritten rule, always RESPECT those fighting for a Championship when you're not."

Actually, he didn't say that you can't race them. He said that you should show respect.

Like Rossi showed respect to Lorenzo in 2010 at Motegi? I didn't hear Laverty tweeting something similar back then. ALso, as you say, Rossi started all this by disrespecting Marquez. Not only by saying that he was in effect, cheating when he won what was argued at the time to be the race of the decade, and did so by clawing back a second to Lorenzo and passed him 2 corners from home, he also maliciously accused Marquez of lying about being a fan of his, to the point where Marquez' own mother actually issued photos of her son's bedroom wall as a kid showing pictures of Rossi. And you want to talk about respect?

El Pais said this. They were the same ones who said Rossi did the same to Espargaro at Valencia (which Espargaro called "pure ........").

“That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” (Christopher Hitchens)"

Crucially, when has Pedrosa denied that this confrontation took place? Your defence argument is weak at best. You cannot produce a legitimate source that Espargaro said that, however the evidence for Rossi confronting Pedrosa is more compelling.
 
El Pais said this. They were the same ones who said Rossi did the same to Espargaro at Valencia (which Espargaro called "pure ........").


His actual public words after the race:


"Creo que no era lo suficientemente fuerte como para estar delante de Dani y, además, él tenía un gran ritmo"

I believe that I wasn't strong enough to be stay in front of Dani, who, after all, had a great rhythm

"Sencillamente, Dani ha sido más fuerte que yo hoy...necesitaba esos cinco puntos y sabía que podía confiar en Dani, que podríamos estar cerca del límite, pero que sería una lucha limpia".

Simply, Dani was stronger than me today. I needed these five points and I knew that I could trust in Dani, that we could be very close to the limit but that it would be a clean battle

Seeing as you edited your post after I replied.

Key word: Public. I made no mention of his public reaction.
 

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