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Keshav said:
Agree. The bully boy nonsense about Maga Krav kind of fit tho, since Rog was, if I properly recall, teaching martial arts. Besides somehow, I can't picture Rog moving to Italy.

Funny that... I worked and lived in Chinatown for 10 years. I taught music and recording workshops at a place whose main mission was getting gang kids off the streets and into schools. We use to rent out our big space to different Kung Fu schools for exhibitions. I got to know a lot of guys who were serious practitioners and the guys who they all acknowledged as the most proficient, were always really mellow and soft-spoken; never the bragging doofus types looking for fights in bars.
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Real tough guys don't brag about their ...... machete.
 
michaelm said:
As if peurile schoolboy insults from a pipsqueak such as you would at all disturb any adult’s emotiional equilibrium, btw. Perhaps oddly , I don’t find being called Mitchell particularly devastating.
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For that matter - being called "Curry Fart" doesn't bother me in the least. Having lived in India I have only happy references to curry. Most every Englishman I know loves a good curry. And while a good orgasm is extreme - I can only manage it three or four times a day. On the other hand, a good fart is a thing of joy and is shall we say... uhh more portable. :p
 
synn said:
Real tough guys don't brag about their ...... machete.
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For the record: Never said I was a tough guy. I weigh 145 Lbs and once in the 20 years of running a shop in a very dicey neighborhood, I was threatened by a steroid pumped ....... who was a professional bodyguard who outweighed me by about 200 Lbs. So yes as a practical matter I chased him out with a machete. Usually I'm much more charming. I was BTW one of the few shop owners on that block who didn't keep a gun under the counter.
 
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Keshav said:
For the record: Never said I was a tough guy. I weigh 145 Lbs and once in the 20 years of running a shop in a very dicey neighborhood, I was threatened by a steroid pumped ....... who was a professional bodyguard who outweighed me by about 200 Lbs. So yes as a practical matter I chased him out with a machete. Usually I'm much more charming. I was BTW one of the few shop owners on that block who didn't keep a gun under the counter.
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If he was an actual professional bodyguard, he would have ended you there.
You chased out a moron. Whoopty freakin doo.
 
synn said:
If he was an actual professional bodyguard, he would have ended you there.
You chased out a moron. Whoopty freakin doo.
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Some day - if you're lucky - you may learn to live whilst not being in a continual neanderthal state of siege. No matter how many sad little insults or absurdist straw man arguments you post, you will never impact on me as a human being because I am essentially a very happy guy, something you quite apparently are not.
 
michaelm said:
Pedrosa for his whole premier class career has had a couple of absolutely dominant races per year, against peak Rossi, prime Stoner, prime Lorenzo, prime MM or anyone else you care to mention, and it was fairly obvious, to Povol and also to me as it happens, that this was the case at Sepang 2015. Lorenzo actually set the fastest lap of the race but knew he had no chance of beating Dani with every incentive to do so. The only time Rossi was faster than Lorenzo all weekend was by milliseconds in the last lap of qualifying, and if he wanted to win the title Lorenzo was the guy he needed to stay ahead of, not MM as MM actually said. The idea of MM’s pace came from a banzai lap in qualifying, something he not infrequently pulls out, and his bike had been skittish early in races all year hence the 5 previous DNFs. Rossi who imo had tried to intimidate MM into not racing him by his statements in the pre-race press conference about the PI race in which I strongly suspect MM actually did try not to pose any risk to the contenders asked for exactly what he received in the race as you have pretty much acknowledged, and I don’t see how it is ever illegitimate to race legally for position; if he was Lorenzo’s out of contention team mate he would have been expected to race Rossi in that manner, and there is footage of Colin Edwards doing on Rossi’s behalf. Rossi himself has raced others in the same fashion, LS08 and Motegi 2010 being examples; after the latter race Lorenzo was criticised by Rossi fans and Rossi actually said he was entitled to race him.

Bottom line is that taking MM out at Sepang very likely allowed Rossi to finish 3rd rather than 4th, and at no time later in the race did he show signs of having the pace of the leading 2 riders just as he showed no signs of having the pace to finish higher than 4th at Valencia.
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There's a solid chance Rossi would've finished fourth if MM wasn't screwing with him.

Rossi wasn't deliberately slowing a rival's race at LS08 or Motegi 2010 and letting the leaders get away. He was racing a rival hard for a position.

Rossi was silly to provoke MM, but MM also behaved very poorly in response. All throughout FP, they were dawdling at 5km/h on the track staring each other down.
 
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RCV600RR said:
There's a solid chance Rossi would've finished fourth if MM wasn't screwing with him.

Rossi wasn't deliberately slowing a rival's race at LS08 or Motegi 2010 and letting the leaders get away. He was racing a rival hard for a position.

Rossi was silly to provoke MM, but MM also behaved very poorly in response. All throughout FP, they were dawdling at 5km/h on the track staring each other down.
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I can't recall if he and Stoner made contact at LS 08, but he certainly did make contact with Lorenzo in Motegi 10. So essentially where does that differ from Marquez racing Rossi hard for position in Argentina?

We can agree on one thing though, and that is Marquez has behaved poorly but Rossi has arguably done so more times. And by that I mean his off track antics as well as his on-track.
 
RCV600RR said:
There's a solid chance Rossi would've finished fourth if MM wasn't screwing with him.

Rossi wasn't deliberately slowing a rival's race at LS08 or Motegi 2010 and letting the leaders get away. He was racing a rival hard for a position.

Rossi was silly to provoke MM, but MM also behaved very poorly in response. All throughout FP, they were dawdling at 5km/h on the track staring each other down.
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There is no evidence to support Marquez slowing Rossi down. On the contrary it was Rossi who was having trouble keeping up to Marquez's pace in Sepang, it was Rossi who attacked at the very next corner to stop Marquez getting away and it was Rossi who nearly crashed trying to run the same pace as Marquez in Sepang.


Rossi knew he didn't have the pace to catch Lorenzo or Pedrosa and he seemed to be having trouble keeping touch with Marquez. He got desperate, a fourth at Sepang would've been a nail in the coffin for him.

Also Rossi deliberately slowed Stoner in LS08 as he was entitled to by racing him for position. He made contact with Lorenzo in Motegi 2010 and he would've made serious contact with Stoner had Stoner not taken evasive action.
 
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I can't recall if he and Stoner made contact at LS 08, but he certainly did make contact with Lorenzo in Motegi 10. So essentially where does that differ from Marquez racing Rossi hard for position in Argentina?

We can agree on one thing though, and that is Marquez has behaved poorly but Rossi has arguably done so more times. And by that I mean his off track antics as well as his on-track.
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Stoner actually touched Rossi at LS when he passed him in the run up to the infamous corkscrew incident.

Motegi 10 was more contentious. Rossi had the inside line, but Lorenzo was a fraction in front. Lorenzo tried to close the door, but Rossi was right there. It was a hard move by both parties, and they both ultimately stayed upright and were sensible.

My comments are limited to on track incidents.
 
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So, you're opinion is basically if Rossi is on the inside, the outside rider is the villain, but if Rossi is on the outside, the inside rider is the villain?

Kindly show me in the image below where you consider Lorenzo 'trying to close the door'. He had absolutely nowhere to go, and it was the inside rider's responsibility to give him room.

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Back to lack of consistency again.
 
synn said:
Go do a search on my posts. I dare you. One of them actually starts with the sentence “I must be the only Rossi and Biaggi fan in the world”. I am quite fond of the Roman emperor actually and the only time I have watched WSBK regularly was when he was there.
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Impressive. Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?
 
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#22 said:
So, you're opinion is basically if Rossi is on the inside, the outside rider is the villain, but if Rossi is on the outside, the inside rider is the villain?
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Your*.

No, I didn't say that at all.

#22 said:
Kindly show me in the image below where you consider Lorenzo 'trying to close the door'. He had absolutely nowhere to go, and it was the inside rider's responsibility to give him room.
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I was referring to a pass Rossi made on a right hander where they touched, not that pass.

The pass you raised is simple - Lorenzo could roll off. Nothing wrong with that pass. Rossi was in front.
 
Congrats, you corrected my spelling error.

Again, selective arguments. By your argument Rossi could have rolled off in Argentina when Marquez was on the inside. I guess at least you are consistent in your bias.
 
RCV600RR said:
Your*.

No, I didn't say that at all.


I was referring to a pass Rossi made on a right hander where they touched, not that pass.

The pass you raised is simple - Lorenzo could roll off. Nothing wrong with that pass. Rossi was in front.
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Kind of like how Marquez was in front in Argentina.
 
RCV600RR said:
The pass you raised is simple - Lorenzo could roll off. Nothing wrong with that pass. Rossi was in front.
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But not a title contender - so why was he racing Jorge?

Incidentally, I had no issue with this at the time, since I believe this unwritten rule (Laverty. M 2015) - to be complete ......... I particularly liked how Kent had nothing negative to say about Ono when he "interfered" with his race and championship bid at the final round in Valencia until he was told to back off by Kiefer.
 

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