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You had an opportunity to prove me wrong, and you instead proved me right. That takes a certain type of commitment.

You are like a dog chasing it's tail, round and round you go and where have you gone? NOWHERE!!!! booooooom
 
Iannone is a god damn ....... ...... When is that ... gonna learn how to stay on track and not crash and take other riders with him? Anyway like ive said before.. Rossi is on the move for his 10th title!
 
The problem at large with Sepang is that it created a ripple effect that was finally felt today where Iannone should have been given a race ban, but wasn't because race direction totally ...... up at Sepang when they decided Rossi was bigger than the safety of riders out on the track, opting for a back of the grid start for an intentional danger maneuver.
I saw an interview with Ducati manager Tardozzi right out of RD and right after the sanction was given. He stated the reason for that specific sanction, as it was explained to him and the rider, is Iannone has now repeated twice the same bad racing move (it's considered equivalent to the crashing torpedo against Dovi). The criteria should be: 2 times = back of the grid; 3 times (if he does it just once again) = penalization - not sure in which terms -; 4) 4 times = black flag. Or something along those lines, I'm just quoting what I remember.
 
Can we have a sense of maturity prevail given that these guys put their lives on the table for our entertainment. I mean you stay with the factions you want but I think at least Catalunya thread can be made hate-free from all camps

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It's the whole "Rossi Phenomenon" (moreso than the man) that makes people puke because of the baggage that comes with it (you).

Admitting that you hate a man because of his fans is truly pathetic. I loved motogp long before Rossi was on the scene so don't pretend you know me just because I am a fan of his.
 
Can we have a sense of maturity prevail given that these guys put their lives on the table for our entertainment. I mean you stay with the factions you want but I think at least Catalunya thread can be made hate-free from all camps

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Not the way it works man. Race threads are for debating and being an ........ Their is a thread dedicated to Salom, I would hope that can stay civil. Sorry they still raced so we will still discuss it. Iononne obviously didn't head any warning.
 
In the past it wasn't costing him races. This season when he misses, he totally misses.. Not even in the same ballpark..


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It's very similar to how it has been in the past when JL is missing edge grip. He struggles to get on the podium. Iannone cost him the race today, but JL's struggle on hard tires are nothing new.
 
I saw an interview with Ducati manager Tardozzi right out of RD and right after the sanction was given. He stated the reason for that specific sanction, as it was explained to him and the rider, is Iannone has now repeated twice the same bad racing move (it's considered equivalent to the crashing torpedo against Dovi). The criteria should be: 2 times = back of the grid; 3 times (if he does it just once again) = penalization - not sure in which terms -; 4) 4 times = black flag. Or something along those lines, I'm just quoting what I remember.
So this particular penalty was thus NOT based on the points system?

And further, if a rider commits the same 'crime' 2 times, he has to start from the back of the grid (as AI must do at Assen), 3 times is 'penalty' would then be starting from pit lane and 4 times would result in a race ban?

So what about the point system then?
 
You just admitted that you hate Rossi as a person because of the fans he attracts. Really?

I formerly blamed the sizeable idiotic element among his fandom rather than Rossi himself, but events last year revealed him to be fully complicit in it all. So what many you call "haters" actually "hate" is the hatred of other riders which has been such a prominent part of the sport during the Rossi era, which it is now rather clear he has instigated.
 
An emotional Catalunya MotoGP weekend ended with Valentino Rossi and Marc Marquez shaking hands for the first time since 2015.

Once friends, the pair's relationship went into meltdown over claims by Rossi that Marquez was trying to help Jorge Lorenzo win last year's title. The bitterness escalated during an on-track clash at Sepang and subsequent title defeat for Rossi at Valencia.

Rossi has barely made eye-contact with Marquez since, but Luis Salom's tragic death helped bring a sense of perspective and a handshake took place in parc ferme, moments after the Italian's thrilling victory over the Honda rider.

“When these things [Salom's accident] happen, all the rest becomes not very important. Very small,” Rossi said. “So I think it was the right thing to do.

“This is a great sport. Our passion. But is also dangerous. So I think that a normal behaviour, a normal feeling, with the other riders is helpful.”



Marquez commented: “It was a really difficult and sad weekend for MotoGP. But in the end, on Sunday, I like that it was the atmosphere of a MotoGP family again. When we were together on the grid [for the minute's silence] and the way all the riders dedicated their race to Luis.

“In the grandstands everybody was supporting all the riders. Full of respect, because we are taking a lot of risks. Another thing that for me was important was to shake hands again with Valentino. I'm happy about this.”

Asked if this race can improve their relationship, Rossi confirmed “yes”.

“Okay” smiled Marquez, putting his hand briefly on Rossi's shoulder while the media gave a round of applause.

But the relationship between Rossi and Lorenzo may take a little longer to thaw.

While Marquez and Rossi haven't clashed since last season, the Yamaha team-mates have exchanged some harsh words on a variety of subjects since round one in Qatar.

“Good question!” smiled Rossi, when asked if would also try to improve the relationship with Lorenzo. “Sincerely the situation with Lorenzo is a little bit different. I mean, what I can say is that at the beginning of the season I don't think to not have any more relationship with him, or not speak with him, or not say 'ciao'.

“But since I came back to Yamaha it was always me to go to Jorge, to say 'ciao Jorge, it's ok? How are you?' So I think this year I wait for him to come. But it never happen, and so you have to speak also with him!”
Read more at MotoGP News - MotoGP Catalunya: Rossi: Marquez handshake ?right thing to go?
So why did it take another rider dying for Rossi and his moronic fans to realise this sport is not soccer and booing riders on the podium is totally inappropriate, the point that your opponents on here have made all along?

And why is Jorge the one that should be making overtures to Rossi? He is not the one who has made, and never withdrawn (in fact still pretty much implying in this piece that Jorge is the party at fault), baseless accusations against his team-mate which will very likely blight the rest of his career and all that he has achieved in his career thus far. I wouldn't be at all surprised after his reaction in that press conference (again something which made me think of the way the general tabloid press operates, surely someone could have called him out of the press conference to give him the dire news about his compatriot, someone with whom he apparently travelled) if Jorge carries the process through to the same logical conclusion that Stoner did and retires fairly soon.
 
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It's very similar to how it has been in the past when JL is missing edge grip. He struggles to get on the podium. Iannone cost him the race today, but JL's struggle on hard tires are nothing new.
He was doing fine until his friend died and they changed the circuit lay out, I think his times on the first day were on the hard tyre. He looked devastated in that press conference which should never have played out as it did.
 
He was doing fine until his friend died and they changed the circuit lay out, I think his times on the first day were on the hard tyre. He looked devastated in that press conference which should never have played out as it did.

His times in practice sessions and even qualifying mean nothing if he can't be fast on Sunday. Again, Lorenzo has been struggling in races on any tires that do not give a lot of edge grip. I'm sure he would never admit it, but it's a hole in his game.
 
Dude, some of the bigoted cockheads on here won't read these articles as to do so will upset them, yes I'm rubbing it in but what the ...., had enough.com.

And you are not one yourself? I thought you were the guy who was all for cool rationalism.

How is Rossi continuing to portray himself as the aggrieved party changed by him doing so after winning a race this time btw?
 
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"i don't congratulate Rossi because he does not deserve it, he tried to murder the guy who extended his hand out to him today."

If Rossi wanted to murder "Murder Marc" he'd be dead.
He certainly wouldn't have done something at that low of speed if his intention was certain death.
Of course people have drowned in their cats bowl of milk so there's that.
But this theory about attempted homicide is just too far out there Jum. It diminishes your credibility too much for me. I do find Jum credible mostly.
Pretty exiting race. Too bad I paid for my entire seat. cuz I only used the edge of it.
 
And you are not one yourself? I thought you were the guy who was all for cool rationalism.

How is Rossi continuing to portray himself as the aggrieved party changed by him doing so after winning a race this time btw?

Well you tell all the other haters to rationalize and I will follow, I'll be interested to see your lead.
 
So this particular penalty was thus NOT based on the points system?

And further, if a rider commits the same 'crime' 2 times, he has to start from the back of the grid (as AI must do at Assen), 3 times is 'penalty' would then be starting from pit lane and 4 times would result in a race ban?

So what about the point system then?
Actually the ducati guy was Ciabatti, not Tardozzi, and now I found confirm online: it's simply an alternative to the penalty point system that can be applied in case of reiteration of the same racing mistake, with gradual worsening of the punishment (back of the grid/box/black flag). Iannone's points in fact are still the same, none taken away.

Maybe if it had been a point penalization there wouldn't even have been an immediate consequence, don't know what his situation was, but at this point I guess his points were not touched in Argentina either. In any case he (rightly) hadn't it easy.
 
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Well you tell all the other haters to rationalize and I will follow, I'll be interested to see your lead.

They and you can comport yourselves however you choose as far as I am concerned. I have no problem with partisanship, just with the attitude that partisanship is different depending on whom it concerns. My view is similar in regard to argumentum ad hominem.

I also still await the first actual argument you present on this forum btw.
 
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