Gran Premi Monster Energy de Catalunya(spoilers mixed with stoner/rossi talk)

nomad said:

Eh? It was a good response to the absolute toss Jumkie was spouting. The end.

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This post and the one you applauded are equally cogent.

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Just watched the race...Rossi is just unparalleled, unrivalled on the brakes. Unbelievable. Superb ride...

..Perhaps he can show his mate what the lever on the right is actually for.

Great to see the handshake in Parc Ferme, although he probably wouldn't have offered it had the result been the other way around.

Loved Laverty's Gene McDonnell tribute.

Daniboy said:

Awww, are you hurting because the rider you hate won, lets hope your pain lasts all year, ....... ....

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If you can show me where I ever said I was angry because Rossi won, I will quit the forum. But if you cannot find such a post, will you admit that you make up crap all the time and are generally full of ....?


No, I think not. The FACT is that if anyone goes through these threads they will find that 99 out of 100 people here, even the ones that dislike Rossi, give credit where credit is due. Nearly everyone here subscribes to Let the best man win. That's because they are genuine followers of the sport.

When Rossi leaves the sport, I will still be following it passionately as I have for 3 decades; whereas, you and all the glory seeking lemmings will all be jumping off a cliff, or off building monuments to your hero. As for me, I have no dog in the race. I am no fan of anyone since Stoner opted out. I'm just here for the racing.

So you just go on preaching your ......... That's what people in cults do. Cult followers thrive on the belief that they and their guru are persecuted and go around moaning about how hated they are. Like the people at Jonestown, the Hare Krishnas, the Born Again Christians, the EST people, the Mormons, the Scientologists etc., boppers are implacably immune to logic, established fact or anything really, that interferes with pink cloud opiated haze of cult of personality worshiping of Rossi. You give the impression of living in a fuzzy-minded fog of complete cognitive dissonance and that you're feeling no pain, but the fact that you go out of your way to spend so much time lashing out at people with your churlish insults and imposing your bad will upon a forum where people of your ilk are miniscule minority suggests that somewhere down deep, there is a spark of awareness that everything you profess to believe is spurious. Knowing that you waste your life bowing to a false idol has got to hurt.

Then again, maybe you are really just that stupid.

JPSLotus said:

You had an opportunity to prove me wrong, and you instead proved me right. That takes a certain type of commitment.

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Indeed.

nomad said:

Admitting that you hate a man because of his fans is truly pathetic. I loved motogp long before Rossi was on the scene so don't pretend you know me just because I am a fan of his.

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First and foremost... I never used the word hate. I said dislike. There's a world of difference.

Secondly: Apparently you lack awareness of the concept known as Cause and Effect.

For instance, I generally find that Buddhists I've met are very agreeable people to associate with and since the one living person who most influences the behavior of that segment of society is the Dalai Lama, I think very highly of him, despite not being a Buddhist myself.

See how that works?

michaelm said:

Nyah nyah nyah Rossi won passes for a telling argument by your standards?

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You must be bored.

moto vudu said:

You must be bored.

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Must you be so boring?

See? .... Cause and Effect.

moto vudu said:

You must be bored.

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No, just amused to see you and particularly Daniboy displaying the same behaviour you pretend to be above. I was particularly amused by DB's posting of the crash net article which ironically confirms exactly what I contend ie that he is continuing his campaign against Jorge and continuing to portray himself as the wronged party last year.

Rossi winning the race may well be evidence against Jumkie's contentions about him only winning because of preferment, but in no way contradicts my reasons for having the attitude towards him that I do.

Keshav said:

Must you be so boring?

See? .... Cause and Effect.

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You must be bored as well.

michaelm is usually fairly reasonable. I figure he's a JL fan because he's always defending him, so perhaps he's depressed because of JL struggling performance then getting Iannone torpedo treatment.

I didn't like when VR's engine took him out the race at Mugello, but I still gave props to JL and MM for riding an excellent race.

michaelm said:

No, just amused to see you and particularly Daniboy displaying the same behaviour you pretend to be above. I was particularly amused by DB's posting of the crash net article which ironically confirms exactly what I contend ie that he is continuing his campaign against Jorge and continuing to portray himself as the wronged party last year.

Rossi winning the race may well be evidence against Jumkie's contentions about him only winning because of preferment, but in no way contradicts my reasons for having the attitude towards him that I do.

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For this being an anti-VR forum, some posters here think they can dish out hate for VR but can't handle it if some of us rub their face in a VR victory. You guys don't have a monopoly on being ........, it's easy and anyone can do it! Don't dish it out if you can't take it in return.

Rossi said that since he returned to Yamaha, he was always first to initiate communication with JL. This year he waited to see if JL initiated anything, of course he didn't so now they don't talk. No big deal unless you want to make it a big deal to have a topic to discuss until the next race. Since you obviously don't want to discuss Rossi's awesome performance for the next 3 weeks.

moto vudu said:

You must be bored as well.

michaelm is usually fairly reasonable. I figure he's a JL fan because he's always defending him, so perhaps he's depressed because of JL struggling performance then getting Iannone torpedo treatment.

I didn't like when VR's engine took him out the race at Mugello, but I still gave props to JL and MM for riding an excellent race.

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It is what it is. Jorge was only going to finish 5th or 6th anyway.

I am depressed about a rider dying, as I always am (as Povol put it from a more informed perspective than mine "sometimes I hate this sport"), and annoyed by triumphalism in the face of this when it demonstrates exactly what I and others have argued, ie that this sport is not soccer and that the booing of riders on the podium with Rossi's tacit approval, and on the basis of a narrative which he continues even after the events of this week-end, was shameful and will be again if it recurs.

moto vudu said:

For this being an anti-VR forum, some posters here think they can dish out hate for VR but can't handle it if some of us rub their face in a VR victory. You guys don't have a monopoly on being ........, it's easy and anyone can do it! Don't dish it out if you can't take it in return.

Rossi said that since he returned to Yamaha, he was always first to initiate communication with JL. This year he waited to see if JL initiated anything, of course he didn't so now they don't talk. No big deal unless you want to make it a big deal to have a topic to discuss until the next race. Since you obviously don't want to discuss Rossi's awesome performance for the next 3 weeks.

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I have no problem acknowledging Rossi's greatness as a rider, either in this race or in general, and was the first to acknowledge good rides from him and MM ( his obviously the better) on this thread and to acknowledge and that the rider I follow wasn't going to finish better than 5th that him being taken out was to some extent his problem as he hadn't been good enough in the race to stay out of torpedo range.

As for the rest, as I have already said, why is Jorge the party at fault given Rossi is the one who made accusations which he hadn't withdrawn in the slightest that Lorenzo's 5th title was the result of cheating/ a conspiracy? We both know the reason for that, which is that you in reality agree there was a conspiracy, although you are careful not to say this outright.

all these rossi haters lol

moto vudu said:

If the person being punished isn't really negatively impacted by the punishment, how effective is the punishment? I suppose they could have attempted to make an example out of him as a message to other riders, but Iannone has been the only rider this season who has repeatedly been out-of-control. He's the only one that needs to get the message.

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They could remove his licence for a lengthy period which renders him unemployable as he must have the FIM licence to ride at all FIM sanctioned events. Plus that punishment stays on his licence and can impede future employment chances.

Will they, hell no and it is not deserving of the sanction of licence removal, but the possibilty is there and that is a deterrent to any professional motorcycle racer

imunderandoverit said:

all these rossi haters lol

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All these haters of anything non-Rossi lol.

nomad said:

Admitting that you hate a man because of his fans is truly pathetic. I loved motogp long before Rossi was on the scene so don't pretend you know me just because I am a fan of his.

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That line has been said for years and is nothing new and the first time I recall it in this or other forums was with regards to Stoner where some posters hated Stoner because of some of his more 'lunatic fringe, lady boy loving' fans.

Yes, it is pathetic if that is the true reason although some also do not like the rider for other reasons, but dislike the fans more and thus 'flare up' when the opportunity allows them.

steeeeeve said:

"i don't congratulate Rossi because he does not deserve it, he tried to murder the guy who extended his hand out to him today."

If Rossi wanted to murder "Murder Marc" he'd be dead.
He certainly wouldn't have done something at that low of speed if his intention was certain death.
Of course people have drowned in their cats bowl of milk so there's that.
But this theory about attempted homicide is just too far out there Jum. It diminishes your credibility too much for me. I do find Jum credible mostly.
Pretty exiting race. Too bad I paid for my entire seat. cuz I only used the edge of it.

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Ok bro, How do you prefer I describe it?

How about:

Rossi deliberately put the guy who extended his hand to him today in danger, the type of danger that could cause a catastrophic outcome.

Or how about: Rossi's move could have resulted in manslaughter.

Is that more reasonable?

The fact is once Rossi deliberately initiated the non-racing maneuver any outcome was his responsibility, the result was to put Marquez in a predicament that could have ended in death. I'm not sure logically how this can be disputed. I chose to describe it in such terms to express the inconvenient reality of such an incident.

michaelm said:

I have no problem acknowledging Rossi's greatness as a rider, either in this race or in general, and was the first to acknowledge good rides from him and MM ( his obviously the better) on this thread and to acknowledge and that the rider I follow wasn't going to finish better than 5th that him being taken out was to some extent his problem as he hadn't been good enough in the race to stay out of torpedo range.

As for the rest, as I have already said, why is Jorge the party at fault given Rossi is the one who made accusations which he hadn't withdrawn in the slightest that Lorenzo's 5th title was the result of cheating/ a conspiracy? We both know the reason for that, which is that you in reality agree there was a conspiracy, although you are careful not to say this outright.

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Based on what Rossi said, JL wasn't showing any initiative to talk to Rossi even before Rossi made accusations. I'm not bothered if they two struggle to be friends. They want nothing more than to beat each other.

Regarding Iannone, I don't understand the sanction. Was he docked penalty points earlier this season?

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