Gran Premi Monster Energy de Catalunya(spoilers mixed with stoner/rossi talk)

Little Walter · Jun 5, 2016

Daniboy said:
Dude, some of the bigoted cockheads on here won't read these articles as to do so will upset them, yes I'm rubbing it in but what the ...., had enough.com.

How anyone can be so clueless is beyond me. If we wanted to read the crap from Circle-Jerk.net, we'd be there reading it. It's a ...... fan forum for the yellow-cum custard crowd with no appreciation for anything but Rossi. You're as spectacularly oblivious to reality as ....... Jehovah's Witnesses that walk around in their dimwitted fashion, knocking on the doors of strangers trying in vain to impose your vision of the world on people who haven't the least bit of interest in your delusional world view. Give it up already. You are not a prophet in the wilderness crying out to the people who need to be saved. You're just a minor annoyance. How would you guys like it if we all went on Crashnet and posted lengthy passages from the Bible just to annoy the Boppers?

nomad · Jun 5, 2016

Keshav said:
You're so completely clueless. I can't stand Rossi as a human being - but I loved the race and give him full credit for riding as well as he did at his age.

What you don't seem able to grasp is that a large component of why there is so much disdain for Rossi, is the kind of mindless ..... fans he attracts, ergo, it's your ceaseless jibberish and incapacity for objectivity regarding anything to do with Rossi, that tips the scales from strong dislike to utter contempt, further polarizing so many people. You think in some confused fashion that you are somehow better than people who don't like Rossi - but the act of throwing gas on the fire, only makes you look worse.

You just admitted that you hate Rossi as a person because of the fans he attracts. Really?

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

moto vudu said:
I read you entire post with a huge smile on my face. I LOVE that Rossi has prevented you from enjoying the sport!! You hate him and YOU are the one that gets punished for it.

The fact that you and JPS always have to exaggerate the events at Sepang shows you don't really believe it was all that bad. You always have to say Rossi "punted" Marc off the track and now it's Rossi attempted to murder Marc. You can simply say "Rossi slowed and ran Marquez wide, Marquez turned into him and crashed." because that doesn't sound bad enough to justify your rants/anger.

You have no voice beyond this small corner of the internet and the 2-3 members here that will share your delusions. Nobody else feels Rossi attempted to harm Marquez and that's what further pisses you off. THOUSANDS cheer while you sit and ..... on your little internet corner. You've posted enough here to write a book about hating Rossi, but NOTHING changes and nothing ever will change. His SUCCESS cuts you DEEP!!! BLEED .....!!!! BLEEEEEED!!!!

Do you actually dispute Rossi's actions put another rider on the ground?

Rossi's intent with the maneuver was quite clear and he even admitted to what the intent was. Whether you like the characterization we have given it is of no concern to me. You're free to buy into the ........ VR and the media spun.

The problem at large with Sepang is that it created a ripple effect that was finally felt today where Iannone should have been given a race ban, but wasn't because race direction totally ...... up at Sepang when they decided Rossi was bigger than the safety of riders out on the track, opting for a back of the grid start for an intentional danger maneuver. While Iannone's maneuver was incredibly dangerous and stupid, it was not deliberately intentional the way VR's move was.

What I think the real question here is, is why it is that when you could go to dozens, upon dozens of sites, all of which would cater to your preferences of adulation for VR, would you continue posting on the one corner of the internet that doesn't by and large share your feeling? Seems counterproductive and pointless to continue posting in vain a bunch of ill-considered points, and now by your own admission, troll posts.

You cannot resist continuing mentioning myself and Jumkie all the time. Makes me wonder who is getting under who's skin.

sewarion · Jun 5, 2016

Iannone said he braked as usual and telemetry can prove it, the problem was that Lorenzo was too slow. Marquez said that with Lorenzo it can be very difficult as he sometime brakes very early in order to focus on corner exit. I think just these two statements tell quite a lot about each rider's understanding of racing in general, of their rival's behavior and how (not) to cope with that.

moto vudu · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Do you actually dispute Rossi's actions put another rider on the ground?

Rossi's intent with the maneuver was quite clear and he even admitted to what the intent was. Whether you like the characterization we have given it is of no concern to me. You're free to buy into the ........ VR and the media spun.

The problem at large with Sepang is that it created a ripple effect that was finally felt today where Iannone should have been given a race ban, but wasn't because race direction totally ...... up at Sepang when they decided Rossi was bigger than the safety of riders out on the track, opting for a back of the grid start for an intentional danger maneuver. While Iannone's maneuver was incredibly dangerous and stupid, it was not deliberately intentional the way VR's move was.

What I think the real question here is, is why it is that when you could go to dozens, upon dozens of sites, all of which would cater to your preferences of adulation for VR, would you continue posting on the one corner of the internet that doesn't by and large share your feeling? Seems counterproductive and pointless to continue posting in vain a bunch of ill-considered points, and now by your own admission, troll posts.

You cannot resist continuing mentioning myself and Jumkie all the time. Makes me wonder who is getting under who's skin.

Rossi admitted his intentions were to run Marc wide. You have to exaggerate it with worst case scenarios, but the rest of us saw it for what it was and moved on.

This forum is more fun than a pro-VR forum. There are some members here who are not fueled with hate and they make good posts. I've learned quite a few things here from some members... but all you and Jums can post is Rossi hate. You don't even exist in his world, but he has a negative impact on yours. That's the power of the Yellow Force.

MdubSTYLIE · Jun 5, 2016

sewarion said:
Iannone said he braked as usual and telemetry can prove it, the problem was that Lorenzo was too slow. Marquez said that with Lorenzo it can be very difficult as he sometime brakes very early in order to focus on corner exit. I think just these two statements tell quite a lot about each rider's understanding of racing in general, of their rival's behavior and how (not) to cope with that.

Whats that AI? You braked with total disregard to the rider infront of you?

Little Walter · Jun 5, 2016

nomad said:
You just admitted that you hate Rossi as a person because of the fans he attracts. Really?

It's the whole "Rossi Phenomenon" (moreso than the man) that makes people puke because of the baggage that comes with it (you).

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

sewarion said:
Iannone said he braked as usual and telemetry can prove it, the problem was that Lorenzo was too slow. Marquez said that with Lorenzo it can be very difficult as he sometime brakes very early in order to focus on corner exit. I think just these two statements tell quite a lot about each rider's understanding of racing in general, of their rival's behavior and how (not) to cope with that.

Unfortunately given his incidents this year, it's better to be circumspect, and risking it at certain moments is to be avoided. The top 3 seemed willing to excuse him, but unfortunately it was an inexcusable move that was completely avoidable. It was obvious to everyone that Lorenzo's pace was suffering. The smart play would have been to get close, but wait till they came around to the start/finish straight so he could use the Ducati horsepower to take Lorenzo on the straight. Instead, another desperation move from Iannone shows why Ducati made the right decision.

sewarion · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Unfortunately given his incidents this year, it's better to be circumspect, and risking it at certain moments is to be avoided. The top 3 seemed willing to excuse him, but unfortunately it was an inexcusable move that was completely avoidable. It was obvious to everyone that Lorenzo's pace was suffering. The smart play would have been to get close, but wait till they came around to the start/finish straight so he could use the Ducati horsepower to take Lorenzo on the straight. Instead, another desperation move from Iannone shows why Ducati made the right decision.

The way I understood it was that they agreed upon the fact that there was not intention to take anyone out on Iannone's side, that you better be on / move to the outside if you outbreak yourself behind another rider, that Lorenzo sometimes brakes early, and that it needs some brain to understand the complexities of JL's riding. So they excused AI merely on the ground of his mental capabilities.

MiddayGun · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Iannone is probably going to get hit with penalty points under this joke of a system even though that move should warrant a back of the grid start in Assen.

JPSLotus said:
The problem at large with Sepang is that it created a ripple effect that was finally felt today where Iannone should have been given a race ban, but wasn't because race direction totally ...... up at Sepang when they decided Rossi was bigger than the safety of riders out on the track, opting for a back of the grid start for an intentional danger maneuver.

You said earlier in the thread you were disappointed that he'd probably just get some points when you felt he should start from the back of the grid.
So they did exactly what you said they should, and all of a sudden you're moving the goalposts?

What gives?

danski · Jun 5, 2016

Little Walter said:
How anyone can be so clueless is beyond me. If we wanted to read the crap from Circle-Jerk.net, we'd be there reading it. It's a ...... fan forum for the yellow-cum custard crowd with no appreciation for anything but Rossi. You're as spectacularly oblivious to reality as ....... Jehovah's Witnesses that walk around in their dimwitted fashion, knocking on the doors of strangers trying in vain to impose your vision of the world on people who haven't the least bit of interest in your delusional world view. Give it up already. You are not a prophet in the wilderness crying out to the people who need to be saved. You're just a minor annoyance. How would you guys like it if we all went on Crashnet and posted lengthy passages from the Bible just to annoy the Boppers?

Awww, are you hurting because the rider you hate won, lets hope your pain lasts all year, ....... ....

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

moto vudu said:
Rossi admitted his intentions were to run Marc wide. You have to exaggerate it with worst case scenarios, but the rest of us saw it for what it was and moved on.

This forum is more fun than a pro-VR forum. There are some members here who are not fueled with hate and they make good posts. I've learned quite a few things here from some members... but all you and Jums can post is Rossi hate. You don't even exist in his world, but he has a negative impact on yours. That's the power of the Yellow Force.

Given a rider was killed this weekend, there's a reason us (and it's been more than just us) have been so adamant about the move. Making a move like that can lead to something very, very bad. I do like how you ignored the impact of race direction's decision then, on Iannone's torpedo today. I know you're not really capable of considered thought, which is fine. But try not to get involved in the conversation if you can't see what the problem is with the maneuver. You lament us discussing Sepang, yet you can't help yourself from getting involved with the conversation, or even bringing it up yourself.

All I can post is Rossi hate?

lol

Nothing backs that either.

Oh, must be that time for you to talk out of your ... again, much like you did when you claimed I was glad Rossi DNF'd at Mugello, and then admitted you lied about what I said.

So glad you are always thinking about me Vudu, I appreciate it greatly.

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

MiddayGun said:
You said earlier in the thread you were disappointed that he'd probably just get some points when you felt he should start from the back of the grid.
So they did exactly what you said they should, and all of a sudden you're moving the goalposts?

What gives?

I said back of the grid because they were never going to give a race ban for Iannone.

Precedent was set at Sepang 2015. If Rossi didn't get a ban for an intentional maneuver, why would a rider get a ban for an unintentional maneuver? Would never happen. Race direction ...... themselves back then, and a few of us knew it was bad precedent they were setting because it undermined the entire punishment system instantly.

danski · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Do you actually dispute Rossi's actions put another rider on the ground?

Rossi's intent with the maneuver was quite clear and he even admitted to what the intent was. Whether you like the characterization we have given it is of no concern to me. You're free to buy into the ........ VR and the media spun.

The problem at large with Sepang is that it created a ripple effect that was finally felt today where Iannone should have been given a race ban, but wasn't because race direction totally ...... up at Sepang when they decided Rossi was bigger than the safety of riders out on the track, opting for a back of the grid start for an intentional danger maneuver. While Iannone's maneuver was incredibly dangerous and stupid, it was not deliberately intentional the way VR's move was.

What I think the real question here is, is why it is that when you could go to dozens, upon dozens of sites, all of which would cater to your preferences of adulation for VR, would you continue posting on the one corner of the internet that doesn't by and large share your feeling? Seems counterproductive and pointless to continue posting in vain a bunch of ill-considered points, and now by your own admission, troll posts.

You cannot resist continuing mentioning myself and Jumkie all the time. Makes me wonder who is getting under who's skin.

Haha you and Jumblie obviously lol and lol again and oh wait ok lol

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

Daniboy said:
Awww, are you hurting because the rider you hate won, lets hope your pain lasts all year, ....... ....

Dani, I do like when you make these posts because it continues proving my larger contention that you are a generally worthless poster who has nothing of value to add about any subject.

moto vudu · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Given a rider was killed this weekend, there's a reason us (and it's been more than just us) have been so adamant about the move. Making a move like that can lead to something very, very bad. I do like how you ignored the impact of race direction's decision then, on Iannone's torpedo today. I know you're not really capable of considered thought, which is fine. But try not to get involved in the conversation if you can't see what the problem is with the maneuver. You lament us discussing Sepang, yet you can't help yourself from getting involved with the conversation, or even bringing it up yourself.

All I can post is Rossi hate?

lol

Nothing backs that either.

Oh, must be that time for you to talk out of your ... again, much like you did when you claimed I was glad Rossi DNF'd at Mugello, and then admitted you lied about what I said.

So glad you are always thinking about me Vudu, I appreciate it greatly.

I don't know how I feel about Iannone's punishment. He is not a championship contender and he is already signed with another team for next year. What does he really care about at this point? Starting from the back or even a 1 race ban doesn't mean much for his already ...... season.

danski · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Dani, I do like when you make these posts because it continues proving my larger contention that you are a generally worthless poster who has nothing of value to add about any subject.

Yeah yeah coz it doesn't fit in with your dream theory! And your hate filled posts are better?

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

moto vudu said:
I don't know how I feel about Iannone's punishment. He is not a championship contender and he is already signed with another team for next year. What does he really care about at this point? Starting from the back or even a 1 race ban doesn't mean much for his already ...... season.

So punishment severity should be contingent on whether a rider is a championship contender and/or what team he will be riding for next season, and what apathy he might feel towards any punishment?

JPSLotus · Jun 5, 2016

Daniboy said:
Yeah yeah coz it doesn't fit in with your dream theory!

You had an opportunity to prove me wrong, and you instead proved me right. That takes a certain type of commitment.

moto vudu · Jun 5, 2016

JPSLotus said:
So punishment severity should be contingent on whether a rider is a championship contender and/or what team he will be riding for next season, and what apathy he might feel towards any punishment?

If the person being punished isn't really negatively impacted by the punishment, how effective is the punishment? I suppose they could have attempted to make an example out of him as a message to other riders, but Iannone has been the only rider this season who has repeatedly been out-of-control. He's the only one that needs to get the message.

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