GoPro Motorrad Grand Prix Deutschland 2016 spoiler and ....
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Joined Oct 2015
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Texas
FP1 and FP2 wont end up being very important, the riders that didn't take much risk were smart not to. Tomorrow the forecast is mostly sunny with 0 chance of rain. Sunday shows a 50% chance of PM showers, but with warmer temperatures. They wont see cold + damp track conditions again. Lap times will be a lot faster tomorrow and the running order will be drastically changed.
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Tennessee
Im not sure i would waste my time with it on Saturday if the conditions fro race day are going to be similar to todays where he says they didnt want to use it because of the conditions. Lets say he uses it tomorrow and likes it, chooses it for the race and its a disaster in colder temps. I know he could switch back after morning warm up, but that would be a day lost in dialing in the older chassis. Another reason them choosing not to test at upcoming Austria might have been a bad idea. They could have used that test for new parts onstead of on the run at a race weekend. I guess they know what they are doing, but sometimes you see decisions that make you wonder
Was it an option for them to test there though? I thought that Ducati hadn't invited Honda to join the test.
Think back to the performances of a certain American rider and the equipment underneath him once it was announced that he would be leaving the team (although it was not entirely his choice to leave as there was to be a 'second coming')
Joined Apr 2015
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NJ
Exactly what I was thinking.
Yet "fans" continue spinning a ........ narrative that Ben Spies was a disappointment. No, he wasn't a disappointment. Try competing when you have a deck so stacked against you, and the team threw you under the bus the first opportunity they had when Rossi wanted out of the Ducati Adventure.
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This makes no sense to me. Why would a manufacturer give up a potential current championship that will sell motorcycles NOW and into the future, for some unknown advantage that may or may not work.
Racing is all public relations and people only remember what you are doing NOW, not what you hope will happen in the future. Which is why Aprilia really screwed up moving from a successful WSBK endeavor to a pos MotoGP development nightmare.
Joined Feb 2007
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Tennessee
I heard that too but i also heard that they had chosen to test at another sight instead to meet their limit. Im not sure the FIM would allow a test that excluded any team that chose to be there as long as they had a test left. They control all official tests
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NJ
The whole 'win on Sunday, buy on Monday' is long over.
Anyone who buys a motorcycle based on the success or failures of prototype machines is an ......
What you need to remember is that Yamaha also chose not to celebrate Lorenzo's championship in the wake of Rossi's meltdown last year. Tells you how much they think the whole thing sells motorcycles.
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Tennessee
Heres what im getting out of translated pages. Honda was vetoed by Ducati from showing up at Austria with the street version of the RC13V so it wouldnt count against their test number. All they wanted to do was get lap familiarity before the race. When Ducati vetoed them, they sat up a promotional gig with Red Bull and got a days worth of laps that way on the street version RC213V, which im sure was fitted with the track package and was basically the bike Hayden rode a couple of years ago
Whilst the highlighted may be true in years past (and I am talking many years past), today the selling point is the personality not the rider and in that aspect Rossi beats near all others by miles.
JL is not that well liked in some media and/or public for reasons that have resulted from his achievements (remembering that all threats to VR are similarly treated) together with some of his 'try hard' actions, through to his occasional brain fart (thumbs down) that have all seen him painted as the villain to the VR superhero of all that is good.
Thus, JL could win every GP whilst riding an R1 against the M1/RVV etc and yet the R1 would still sell more were it classed as a 'Rossi Replica'.
Race results no longer sell bikes, personality and hype sell bikes so for me and I say this as pure supposition only but Yamaha will say that they are treating each equal and will say that they want JL to win as much as they do VR which may be very true amongst the many team members, but Yamaha marketing want one result only as that one result will enhance their bottom line (they will get that result in 2017)
Maybe but if Ducati hired the track it's really their choice who they invite and they might still be ...... about the whole winglet situation.
A few practice moments
Vinales drops it - https://streamable.com/60vm
Rabat - same corner - https://streamable.com/5pae
Lorenzo - same corner - https://streamable.com/rhs0
Vinales drops it - https://streamable.com/60vm
Rabat - same corner - https://streamable.com/5pae
Lorenzo - same corner - https://streamable.com/rhs0
Joined Feb 2007
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Tennessee
He has always been tyre dependent, and no longer has a tyre of his preference and also possibly has less than completely enthusiastic support from his current team.
Wake me up when Rossi starts cutting into MM's times, and more particularly into his points lead.
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Texas
Has there been changes to the tires since Le Mans? Do you think Pol and Bradley are getting more support from Yamaha than Lorenzo? Pol was a half second faster than Lorenzo.
Qualifying is starting in about an hour. If Lorenzo doesn't make it out of Q1, there are some real problems going on in his head.
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