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I really hope so. Its not that the honda is slow but it is unsafe. Everyone riding it is risking their future and that is not ok. I'd much rather be losing races on the yamaha than getting thrown off at any given moment by the honda. I wouldn't give a flying .... if honda quit motogp today. The safety of the riders is more important to me than the amount of manufactures that race. .... it, whats two more ducatis?
I agree with the bikes brutal unpredictability leading to a safety issue. It's been building up since JL was riding.
 
Multinational corporations don't buy companies without a strategy and set of incentives/punishments for the appointed execs. VW knows the plan and the personnel. They don't care if it's hydraulic ride height or emissions-cheating (too soon?). Just get the wins, and deliver several hundred million dollars of windfall profits. The important people at Ducati, including Ducati Corse, may not get emails from Mr. Antlitz, but they do have an equity stake in achieving what VW wants.

Regarding VW's size, it's annual revenues are roughly 20x Yamaha Motor Corp's revenue and about 2.5x-3x of Honda's annual revenue. VAG is much bigger. BMW and Honda are close to the same size in annual revenue.

This isn't about riders clashing. Is that what you think would happen if the regs went back to 2018? Seems like Marquez would just walk away with a big bag of titles. That's not an outcome I would particularly enjoy, but at least it would be authentic and sporting. My critique is about personnel within the sport who frequently deceive themselves, the sanctioning bodies and the fans regarding the sport's new "developments". These people basically get tired of working around the limitations of the rider. They introduce new equipment to circumvent the world class athletes in the saddle. It inevitably leads to a flood of new technical restrictions, and the series settles at a new equilibrium with less economic potential and less interest for the fans.
I came to like MM mainly because of how he he stood up to/ was unabashed by the Valeban and Valentino himself, but also appreciate his riding, although Casey Stoner similarly pushing the limits by a different methodology was my all time favourite bike racing spectacle, particularly at PI.

I am fine with several great riders racing closely obviously, but if someone like MM is 10 seconds faster over a race distance due to his capabilities then he should win by 10 seconds imo, and I don’t see close racing as an end in itself particularly if contrived a la Nascarz. I share your distaste for engineers trying to remove the influence of riders from their engineering exercises. Bagnaia still seems to be able to ride a Ducati faster than anyone else presumably due to talent, but even he has complained about the propensity of the bike to let go without warning near the limit.
 
Yep, at least the Yamaha is just slow.

In other news, KTM have said they are taking up Acostas option for MotoGp for 2024. One rumor is they want Fernandez to be on loan at Gresini but that's unlikely as they look to be securing Tony Arbolino. So they either have to dump Pol or create a new factory team as apparently we are at the limit of privateer teams allowed.
Reportedly KTM wanted an additional spot on the grid for Ajo but the Dorna said more spots will only be made available if a new manufacturer joins
 
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I can't compete with @Keshav masters english, he outclass me so much I can't even begin to text an answer hahahah. Actually I have a hard time understanding some bits of his text. Tried to google translate his text but the software crashed hahahahaha. Joking aside, I got your point, mate. You basically got tired of paying tributes for bike development, technologies, bits and bytes, whatever, and now enjoy casual racing with riders clashing each other. That's ok, we are old guard and we mature, but as new generations come and go, the cycle repeats. Fanboysm is what moves the sport and each time more related to brands than to riders as people are getting more and more egocentric.
FWIW - It's not a competition. I always find your post to eminently readable. I use Google translate at times and one really does have to read between the lines a lot. And English is so idiosyncratic it's a wonder that the translators work as well as they do. Sometimes I need Google translate to understand some of Lex's tech talk, LOL, tho I once I reach comprehension, it's always worth the effort.
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Husqvarna.

Developing a new engine for a factory effort would cost €10 million every year according to Speedweek.
A badge-engineered KTM doesn't count as a new manufacturer.
Yep, this. Sadly. The issue is, who is going to take the manufacturer spot? Suzuki just left, Kwak are almost never coming back. BMW are also extremely unlikely and most other manufacturers are owned by the bigger ones anyway.

I'm very curious how the Acosta situation turns out. On one hand, they could ditch Pol but on the other, they probably want an experienced rider as his team mate.

Seems that KTM and Ducati have an embarrassment of riches atm.
 
FWIW - It's not a competition. I always find your post to eminently readable. I use Google translate at times and one really does have to read between the lines a lot. And English is so idiosyncratic it's a wonder that the translators work as well as they do. Sometimes I need Google translate to understand some of Lex's tech talk, LOL, tho I once I reach comprehension, it's always worth the effort.
Cheers,
K
Sure, I was kidding. Thank you for the time taken to appreciate my posts.

Maybe in a near future AI will make possible for people to talk and chat in their native language in a natural way at real time, using original voice. I don't use translator to write or read at about 95% of the time but some slangs or phrases are really hard to comprehend even with the translator, although it helps at those cases. It sucks not being able to speak exactly the way you want to.
 
I came to like MM mainly because of how he he stood up to/ was unabashed by the Valeban and Valentino himself, but also appreciate his riding, although Casey Stoner similarly pushing the limits by a different methodology was my all time favourite bike racing spectacle, particularly at PI.

I am fine with several great riders racing closely obviously, but if someone like MM is 10 seconds faster over a race distance due to his capabilities then he should win by 10 seconds imo, and I don’t see close racing as an end in itself particularly if contrived a la Nascarz. I share your distaste for engineers trying to remove the influence of riders from their engineering exercises. Bagnaia still seems to be able to ride a Ducati faster than anyone else presumably due to talent, but even he has complained about the propensity of the bike to let go without warning near the limit.

Yeah, MM seems to be impervious to everything including constructive criticism. He may not be my favorite, but he was the ultimate karmic agent for Vale when he arrived in 2013. Stoner could best Vale on most days, but Stoner wanted to beat Vale fairly, and Rossi always took advantage of that, whether he was making overtaking maneuvers off-track or politicking his way into Bridgestone (maybe). Marc is not afflicted with good character on track. He was willing to end Vale's career over something as trivial as a youtube highlight. He really was a one man army vs. the Valeban.

Bagnaia is a legitimate talent, imo. It's too bad we don't have a time machine to take 2023 Pecco back to 2017 or 2018 and see what happens. He's not very consistent, but who knows if that's him or the way the GP23 can fold a set of Michelins. No ride height devices with the current crop of riders, and Marquez getting older could have produced something quite special.
 
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Got around to cramming the race weekend today. You guys see when MM nearly high-sided at T-11 in P2 and then gave his camera the finger? Don't be shy, Marc. Tell us how you really feel. Man what a weekend for him but he's a tough chap. Aren't these bikes inspected after every race? Why can they not find the rocket Miller is using at the start? Once that fuel cell burns out, he's the cork in the bottle.
The race at the front was incredible and I don't mind saying I liked seeing Pecco coming up short, though he's awesome. +37 for Martin and I hope he and Pecco have an epic battle. Bez has fizzled. Marini is the man on the Mooney. Sorry to see Binder bin it. I was rooting for the podium but I don't mind seeing Zarco there. I think PP should keep him. Feel bad for Fabio. He deserves a better effort from Yamaha.
 
Yeah, MM seems to be impervious to everything including constructive criticism. He may not be my favorite, but he was the ultimate karmic agent for Vale when he arrived in 2013. Stoner could best Vale on most days, but Stoner wanted to beat Vale fairly, and Rossi always took advantage of that, whether he was making overtaking maneuvers off-track or politicking his way into Bridgestone (maybe). Marc is not afflicted with good character on track. He was willing to end Vale's career over something as trivial as a youtube highlight. He really was a one man army vs. the Valeban.

I have to admit I found it very satisfying to watch him crush him/them.
Not why I watch but it was well deserved.
 
Yep, this. Sadly. The issue is, who is going to take the manufacturer spot? Suzuki just left, Kwak are almost never coming back. BMW are also extremely unlikely and most other manufacturers are owned by the bigger ones anyway.

I'm very curious how the Acosta situation turns out. On one hand, they could ditch Pol but on the other, they probably want an experienced rider as his team mate.

Seems that KTM and Ducati have an embarrassment of riches atm.
Yes, I see. Gas Gas is a satellite team and not considered a constructor. I did think otherwise. So the pipedream being pushed that Marc and Pedro form a super team at Husqvarna is very unlikely to occur.
 
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Dorna would prefer to see 12 teams consisting of 6 manufacturers each having a factory team and a satellite team. If Yamaha applied for a satellite team would Dorna reject?
 
Yeah, not quite the same but close:) Did they even have satellite teams in 97, Gresini Honda, Movi star Honda, privateers?
Other than factory teams everyone else had to buy a raw bike and engineer it themselves... Honda kept the good bits for themselves. Very different than supported satellite teams.
 
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Other than factory teams everyone else had to buy a raw bike and engineer it themselves... Honda kept the good bits for themselves. Very different than supported satellite teams.
That has been muddied in recent years as some satellite teams are getting some factory support in particular in the Ducati teams especially Pramac
 

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