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Formula 1 2008

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Thats terrible, i hope they can re-locate it to another track. It's bad enough having no races in North America, but to leave out the home of motorsport is a great shame.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 16 2008, 07:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats terrible, i hope they can re-locate it to another track. It's bad enough having no races in North America, but to leave out the home of motorsport is a great shame.
I hope bernie, max et al like the taste of goose.
 
Ferrari: very disappointing IMO! It's not like they made mistakes, but I thought they'd stand a chance for the win. McLaren was just too fast. Lewis did a great job. Taking pole, winning the race (dominantly) and setting FL. What more could he ask for?? Now he's leading Massa with 7 points. I don't think we'll see any ''miracles'' happening like last season. Kimi did what he had to, and that's letting Massa take 2nd place today. Don't think it's enough though. I can't see Hamilton screwing up again. So Lewis to win the WDC, and Ferrari the WCC.

btw, WHAT A BORING RACE!!!! I almost fell asleep, can't believe I woke up for that, even Moto wasn't that great this time, but at least the King won
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Bring on Brazil!!!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Oct 19 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>btw, WHAT A BORING RACE!!!! I almost fell asleep, can't believe I woke up for that

Dull as hell wasn't it. But i don't think i've ever been happier to watch a boring race. It was refreshing to see a race completed unmolested, and with no major mistakes made from the big players.

It looks good for Lewis but obviously its not over. The next two weeks will be unbarable.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 19 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dull as hell wasn't it. But i don't think i've ever been happier to watch a boring race. It was refreshing to see a race completed unmolested, and with no major mistakes made from the big players.
Yeah, sure, no mistakes, and silly things, but that's the sad thing..if nothing silly happens then the race is boring...and boring it was! I wanted to turn off the tv with 10 laps to go, nothing was really gonna change anyway. Yeah Felipe finished 2nd, but that was no shock obviously.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 19 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It looks good for Lewis but obviously its not over. The next two weeks will be unbarable.
Most season it looked good for Lewis actually, no teammate who was a danger to him like last season. I think it's over..he won't mess up, so he should win this time around. Only a DNF will help Massa. Not sure that will happen though. It's interesting that Heikki always seems to have the DNF's instead of Lewis though. I guess Finnish drivers at Mclaren always attract the ''badluck'' somehow
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Oct 19 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I guess Finnish drivers at Mclaren always attract the ''badluck'' somehow
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By not driving properley. Heikki has been a disappointment this year, big time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 19 2008, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>By not driving properley. Heikki has been a disappointment this year, big time.

Although he doesn't provide much help to Hamilton he doesn't provide much threat either... i think they will keep him long term.

Hamilton demands to be center of attention.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 19 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>By not driving properley. Heikki has been a disappointment this year, big time.
By not driving properly?? He actually had a lot things not going well for him, and not because he wasn't driving well. For sure he's no Hamilton, but then nobody is. McLaren must be pleased with him, he's not a threat to their beloved driver, too bad he has been having some mechanical issues. Or else they might be leading the WCC as well, because Ferrari messed up a lot this season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Oct 19 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Although he doesn't provide much help to Hamilton he doesn't provide much threat either... i think they will keep him long term.

Hamilton demands to be center of attention.

He is perfect for Hamiltons purposes, but he isn't quick enough to support at times like now and Mclaren aren't winning the constructors title.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 19 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dull as hell wasn't it. But i don't think i've ever been happier to watch a boring race. It was refreshing to see a race completed unmolested, and with no major mistakes made from the big players.
It looks good for Lewis but obviously its not over. The next two weeks will be unbarable.

Do you mean the FIA!!
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Heikki Kovaleinen is a joke.... why do you think McLaren hired him for. The guy is a garbage racer and has no place in motorsports racing, yeah I know harsh words but fitting for the guy. He makes Hamilton look better than he really is, not saying Hamilton is not a good driver..... just that Heikki makes him look that much better. I really hope Massa wins the championship even though he is not deserving of one because of all his idiotic mistakes. Really I just can not stand Ron Dennis, just the look on the guys face. Him and Hamilton are both alike, no wonder they get along so well..... 2 peas in a pod.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 22 2008, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Heikki Kovaleinen is a joke.... why do you think McLaren hired him for. The guy is a garbage racer and has no place in motorsports racing, yeah I know harsh words but fitting for the guy. He makes Hamilton look better than he really is, not saying Hamilton is not a good driver..... just that Heikki makes him look that much better. I really hope Massa wins the championship even though he is not deserving of one because of all his idiotic mistakes. Really I just can not stand Ron Dennis, just the look on the guys face. Him and Hamilton are both alike, no wonder they get along so well..... 2 peas in a pod.

What is Massa chance to win? According to the formula (2V/d) + at = x , he has 30% of winning the championship in Brazil..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 21 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Heikki Kovaleinen is a joke.... why do you think McLaren hired him for. The guy is a garbage racer and has no place in motorsports racing, yeah I know harsh words but fitting for the guy. He makes Hamilton look better than he really is, not saying Hamilton is not a good driver..... just that Heikki makes him look that much better. I really hope Massa wins the championship even though he is not deserving of one because of all his idiotic mistakes. Really I just can not stand Ron Dennis, just the look on the guys face. Him and Hamilton are both alike, no wonder they get along so well..... 2 peas in a pod.

Although i agree that Heikki makes Lewis look better than he is by underachieving in the same car, i think it's an enormous stretch to say he has no place in motorsports racing. Remember that just 101 men have ever won F1 races, and he is one of them. As for Massa, he has made stupid mistakes at Australia, Malaysia and Silvertone this year, but Lewis has been guilty of the same in Bahrain, Canada and Japan. Kimi Raikonnen in comparison is guilty of just as many, perhaps more stupid errors. This has been the nature of F1 this season.

I'd also like to know what it is besides his face that you don't like Ron Dennis? I'm not a great fan of his, but hes been a long standing figurehead in the sport and has achieved a lot in his years.
 
Wonder how much Massa willing to wreck Hamilton Car so that he can win the championship? Or were the previous incidents were pure racing ? Massa has more wins than LH and he is still has a good chance...

Brazil must be very exciting and it is coming
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Oct 29 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wonder how much Massa willing to wreck Hamilton Car so that he can win the championship? Or were the previous incidents were pure racing ? Massa has more wins than LH and he is still has a good chance...

Brazil must be very exciting and it is coming
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I think Massa will do anything he can to win the championship, we saw that in Japan. But i would hope Lewis will be staying out of trouble and Massa will probably be ahead of him all race long. But anything can happen. Massa may have more wins that Lewis, but 2 of them are controversial/illegitimate, so it could be argued that Lewis has actually WON more on merrit. But thats another story, I don't want to get into being bitter unless i feel the end result is unjust, which is unlikely.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Oct 30 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ferrari will quit

tsk tsk tsk

F1 is all about Ferrari and Ferrari is an important brand in F1. Ferrari can't leave the F1. Unless they have financial problem, I don't think Ferrari will quit. IMO Toyota may leave F1 if they cannot win the championship and this is not a surprise at all as Toyota is not a household name in F1.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Oct 30 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>F1 is all about Ferrari and Ferrari is an important brand in F1. Ferrari can't leave the F1. Unless they have financial problem, I don't think Ferrari will quit. IMO Toyota may leave F1 if they cannot win the championship and this is not a surprise at all as Toyota is not a household name in F1.

while reading it, i cannot imagine F1 without Ferrari... i just hope they find the best solution for this.
though i also disagree with standard engine
 

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